Topic 'Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions...' in forum 'All Things Unix' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22002235 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:22:12 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 10:22:12 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22054264 Try dkms. A good read-
»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_Ke···_Support]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22054264 Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:12:57 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22042529
Maybe after I get a better tv to use as a monitor I'll try some of the others again.

So I guess I just have to wait for nvidia to allow screen resizing to fix the overscan problem.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone! I'll probably have some more soon...
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Im Your Boogeyman, Thats What I Am]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22042529 Mon, 09 Mar 2009 20:58:31 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22030839
I've got 3 20gb partitions, 1 30gb partition and a 9gb to try different distros on. I figure I'll use the 30 as the main and play around with the others untill I can find a distro that works for me.

I've tried a BSD flavor once, and I agree its not for noobs such as myself. But as long as I got at least one working OS on this machine, why not play around a little.

I'll grab a copy of Fedora next day I get time to play and give it a shot.

I'm still new to the area, just moved here in august, and I dont think I've even been out to Madison yet.
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Im Your Boogeyman, Thats What I Am]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22030839 Sat, 07 Mar 2009 11:59:58 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22029863 said by Boogeyman:

I just installed SUSE and really like the new KDE interface except for the damn font problems. With the default drivers theres no overscan and I can get 1280x720 full screen, but the fonts are too small and when I make them bigger, certain menu items become so large that they are unreadable.

Doing the update thing now and hopefully can get the nvidia drivers through the package manager after the update.... reboot time...
Dude, use Fedora 10 instead of SUSE. OpenSUSE is my least favorite distro (partly because they are in bed with M$ and partly because it is so bloated).

Fedora 10 has a KDE edition, which is what I use. It comes with KDE 4.1, but once you install it and update it (you will probably have like 250 packages to update), KDE 4.2 installs automatically and works perfectly.

I was once a KDE 4 hater, but now that KDE 4.2 is out, it has improved drastically over the old 4.0 and 4.1. It simply blows Gnome out of the water. It's no contest.

If you don't mind Gnome, then definitely use Linux Mint. It is by far the easiest distro out of the box. It comes with all the multimedia codecs (flash, etc.) pre-installed and the video driver should be a simple one-click install.

Stay away from the BSD's and Solaris. They are really cool, yes, but they are still not 100% ready for the casual desktop user. Linux has them beat handily in the desktop department. Once you become a Linux guru, then is the time to experiment with the BSD's and OpenSolaris for kicks and grins.

P.S. I've been meaning to make a trip to Jimmy's in Madison but have been too busy. And, damn, I love that Thai restaurant, Suran or whatever it's called. ;)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22029863 Sat, 07 Mar 2009 05:18:03 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22027103
fonts are always a pain in the neck. :)

I'm very particular about my fonts so if you need a hand, let me know. For non-proportional fonts, I've installed `sgi-fonts' For super nice small font support, I have `MicrosoftFonts' installed - I use tahoma. Some people might break out in hives to co-mingle Linux and Microsoft but I pick the best-of-breed. :p I have a job to do and I want to get it done.

btw, I'm not very keen on KDE 4.x so I'm still on KDE 3.x - you might want to continue with KDE 3.x
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Doing the update thing now and hopefully can get the nvidia drivers through the package manager after the update.... reboot time...
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Im Your Boogeyman, Thats What I Am]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22026904 Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:45:59 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22012289
I think you have quite the list of distro's already. Within the past few months, I test-drove kubuntu (latest, I can't recall the version) and openSUSE 11.1 For me, openSUSE 11.1 still works best.

As an example, my laptop has two batteries, on kubuntu, `kpowersave' doesn't detect them. openSUSE does and what's neat is it detects when I swap in/out the second battery (it's the CD/DVD module bay).

Personally, I wouldn't get to hung up on a distro, they all have warts and shiny parts. Pick the one which works best for your needs. ;)
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ISP: TekSavvy DSL; backhauled via a 6KM wireless link]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22012289 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:20:00 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22011869
I downloaded:

Linux Mint
SimplyMEPIS
PC-BSD
and the latest alpha of ubuntu to maybe try on a 10gb partition.

The reason the windows partition is so big and the linux ones are small is because, well, windows is bloated to all hell. I barely have anything installed right now and it already takes up 60gb. My ubuntu install which had everything I would need to use installed only took up about 10gb. All my media is on my ubuntu server box.

Any other distro suggestions?
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Im Your Boogeyman, Thats What I Am]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22011869 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 08:46:33 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22010633
Good luck!]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22010633 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:52:14 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22010479
I tried removing evrything associated with nvidia from the package manager, got it to boot to the defualt driver at 800x600, but when I tried to reinstall the nvidia drivers it always tells me theres a problem and it will have to revert to safe graphics mode. At least I think thats what its saying, the fonts are so squished its hard to read.

I'm booted into windows now and when I try to use utorrent to dl linux mint, about 2 minutes in, the pc blue screens and reboots. Its just not my day.
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Im Your Boogeyman, Thats What I Am]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22010479 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:25:02 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22009598 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22009598 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:03:40 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22007410 said by pablo:

said by Boogeyman:

What does the +0+0 in something like "Option "metamodes" "DFP: 1600x1024 +1280 +0+0"" mean?
It's the lower left coordinate of your display: 0,0
Thanks :)

So if I did -5-5 it would move the screen 5px down and to the left and vise-versa if I do +?
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Im Your Boogeyman, Thats What I Am]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22007410 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:39:59 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22007348
I tried the 1360x768 (1366 was not available in the nvidia driver options) Sadly, I too know that one by heart. Actually its probably a good thing because I sell tv's for a living and thats part of the product spec, lol. Whats really sad is I know the defualt Linksys router IP by heart and my wife and father (who is a computer guy too) stare at me funny when I can recite it to them.

I am connected via DVI to HDMI, as tv has no DVI or monitor port.

I have tried googling some, but I keep getting distracted finding fixes for problems I dont have but might one day, and fixes for other issues I'm having, or things I'm remembering to install. (I wiped my HD and am constantly remembering settings and programs to reinstall/set, and I just set up an old box with ubuntu 8.04 server as a file/print server and am learning about how to fix problems with that one as well.) And as soon as I get a few extra network cards, I'm gonna put together a firewall/router box for shits and giggles. (Also because my 56yr old mother got an iPhone before me and I fear my geek credentials are at stake)

I'm also wondering if the PS3 can access MythTV like it can with windows media center. I saw something about it on one of my searches for a fix for my resolution woes, but I cant remember where and I was wondering if anyone had any experience with that.

*EDIT*
Oh yeah, I beleive my monitor IS sending the wrong EDID info, as it tries to tell me that my tv's native resolution is 1920x1080. Which would be awesome if interlacing didnt make me want to stab myself in the eyes. Oddly, I wonder if it may be an nvidia issue as the nvidia driver in windows also says its native 1920x1080 and when I used to have my XP box with an ATI card, it said it was 1366x768 IIRC.

I may just have to wait for an nvidia driver that has a scaler in it like the windows driver does.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22007348 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:29:48 EDT Re: Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22004026
First, I'm going to guess two things, which you will need to correct if I am guessing wrong.

a) you are connecting via DVI?
b) the Magnavox is a 720p panel, not a 1080p panel.

Yes? If so, the magic number you are looking for is...

1366x768.

I know that by heart, isn't that sad?

That's the correct resolution for 99 44/100% of all 720p LCDs with no overscan and no upscaling, aka "native resolution"

So, you could start googling for

1366x768 GForce 8600GTS linux

I did, but the initial results were not promising.

I was able to get intel cards to cough up this resolution, but it can be a bear especially if your monitor doesn't spit out the correct EDID/DTD info.

Googling for nvidia linux 1366x768 got some more promising results, including "the source" over at nvnews.com

so...

»nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvid···opview=1

Anyway, dig around a bit. Or convince the Significant Other that this is a great reason to go buy a 60" 1080p display ;)
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What does the +0+0 in something like "Option "metamodes" "DFP: 1600x1024 +1280 +0+0"" mean?
It's the lower left coordinate of your display: 0,0
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ISP: TekSavvy DSL; backhauled via a 6KM wireless link]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22002484 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:21:52 EDT Xorg, nvidia, overscan and other questions... http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22002235
Ok, so to start off, heres my system:
Dell XPS 410
Intel E6600 2.4ghz Core2 Duo
4gb DDR 667 (could be DDR2 or at a higher clock, but I cant remember and dont care enough to look)
GForce 8600GTS w/256mb onboard
~250gb SATA HD partitioned as hda0 ~190gb (Vista Home32 Premium) hda1 ~50gb (Ubuntu 8.10 64)
Monitor is a Magnavox 37" LCD HDTV

I'm using the nvidia 180.11 drivers that you can get through the package manager. I tried the newer one straight from nvidia, but I messed something up and had to do a complete reinstall because I didnt know what I messed up as I had changed a few other things at the time as well. Anyway, for the past week or so I've been trying to understand modes, modelines, edid and all that jazz, but everytime I change one of those, my monitor goes way out of whack and I have to re-edit the xorg.conf file to remove it and get back to default.

So my main problem is the only resolution that I can use that doesnt overscan is 1024x768_60, but of course it sctretches everyhting. I've searched and searched, but no one has a solution that I can understand. I just want to be able to use Ubuntu (or any flavor of linux thats easy for noobs as my wife has to be able to use it as well) as my main OS and just use windows for gaming.

I know thats not enough info to really help, but I just wanted to get the thread started and see where it goes. I'll be able to post more tonight after work.

Also, when giving suggestions, could you explain what the command/parameter/whatever means/does so as to help me understand what I'm doing to my pc. :)

So right now, the question that I cant find an answer to is:

What does the +0+0 in something like "Option "metamodes" "DFP: 1600x1024 +1280 +0+0"" mean?
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Im Your Boogeyman, Thats What I Am]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Xorg-nvidia-overscan-and-other-questions-22002235 Mon, 02 Mar 2009 15:36:43 EDT