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| [Scam] requestagrant.com
I'm not sure. I figured I'd come here and ask the guys.
I got a phone spam(using the "This is not a sales call" loophole) from these people advertising grant money.
I'd like to know if these people are a scam. Thanks! -- De Colores! | |   Doctor Four My other vehicle is a TARDIS Premium join:2000-09-05 Dallas, TX
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| More likely than not it is a scam. McAfee Siteadvisor gives it a green rating, but there are two user reports giving it a red for phishing or other scams. They aren't specific - one just says it is a scam, the other has no comment whatsoever.
There's a report on Ripoff Report calling it a phishing scam (well technically it isn't, but it is still a scam as they ask for credit card details at the end of it all): »www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/3···3101.htm -- "The trouble with computers, of course, is that they are very sophisticated idiots." - Doctor Who (from Robot)
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| reply to Hardcore said by Hardcore :I'm not sure. I figured I'd come here and ask the guys. I got a phone spam(using the "This is not a sales call" loophole) from these people advertising grant money. I'd like to know if these people are a scam. Thanks! I Agree with Doctor Four 
I am not just sure, I am absolutely 100% positive that it is a scam and a fraud. As Doctor Four mentioned above it is not phishing. It is a lure in order to deceive unfortunate consumers in to paying anywhere from $20 to $60 for general publicly available information on how to apply.
Also that is not a "Do not call loophole" rather it is intended to motivate you not to file a FTC complaint. You and all others who are called should file FTC complaints. It is in fact a sales call and in direct violation of the FTC do not call regulations.
What makes this criminal, is that they are masquerading as some kind of government affiliate, or consumer help organization, which they are not. Their only intent is to scam you out of money.

RequestAGrant.com is sponsored in part by the Cash Grant Institute.
Who is the Cash Grant Institute?
The Cash Grant Institute is an international joint venture of a group of (NPO) Not for Profit Organizations, (NGO) Non Government Organizations, (PF) Private Foundations as well as (AWI) Anonymous Wealthy Individuals.
What is the purpose of the Cash Grant Institute?
The purpose of the Cash Grant Institute is to educate people in need around the world about the availability of grant money especially from (NPO) Not for Profit Organizations, (NGO) Non Government Organizations, (PF) Private Foundations as well as (AWI) Anonymous Wealthy Individuals.
Free Grant Money is available from the Federal, State and Local Governments The RequestAGrant.com site has many different organizations sending traffic to our site. If you have received an unwanted email or telephone call, let us know so that we can investigate it.
Affiliates that send spam or make calls to people on the Do Not Call list will be terminated.
. LOL = (AWI) Anonymous Wealthy Individuals.
Note the affiliate deception. the company itself is performing the violations, that is just a ruse.
By chance did you catch the number that called.?
Additional evidence that they are committing fraud is teh fact that they are calling using Washington DC numbers (probably VOIP)to further create an illusion of legitimacy.
So far I have reports of these numbers:
202-683-1404 202-683-1418 202-683-1442 202-683-1479
»www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=20···aq=f&oq=
Apparently they are rotation from a block of numbers that may have been obtained from Level3:
DC 202 683 AS 6117 LEVEL 3 COMMUNICATIONS, LLC - DC WSHNGTNZN1 G 07/27/2006
I am looking at what appears to be around 9,000 domains registered for all kinds of variations of this scam. Lots of bogus and misleading info to obfuscate who they really are.
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said by Hardcore : ... I'd like to know if these people are a scam. Thanks! Not only are they, but they have being scamming victims for over 13 years, despite being ordered to cease and desist on at least 2 occasions. Reading consumers postings of the scam attempt motivated me to dig into this operation to see if I could track the real culprits down, wherever they may be. Postings such as the woman whose husband died three years ago, and is now about to loose her home. Thinking that spending what money she doesn't have with these scammers will arrange a government grant for her. Remember they are pretending to be out of DC, using local phone numbers trying to add to the ruse. This is about as disgusting as it gets, preying on consumers with deception in an economic climate where many are struggling to find funds to sustain themselves. Scammers are only too happy to relieve them of what little funds they have left, using a "you are eligible for a grant" to lure them in to parting with more money.
Here are some additional phone numbers that they are using from the same block as posted above:
202-683-1435 »www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=20···G=Search 202-683-1427 »www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=20···G=Search 202-683-1441 »www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=20···G=Search 202-683-1413 »www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=20···G=Search
As mentioned, there are over 18 pages of complaints on one number alone on 800notes.com: 202-683-1404 »800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-202-683-1404
Also, let's go back and add links for the others:
202-683-1404 search link above 202-683-1418 »www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=20···G=Search 202-683-1442 »www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=20···G=Search 202-683-1479 »www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=20···G=Search
I am sure that many more in the 202-683-14 block can be dug up also.
Not only are they trying to scam consumers by phone with a total disregard of the do not call registry, they are also trying to scam victims via the US mail (mail fraud), and email spam as well. They are sending bogus flyers out with fake checks and luring victims to contact them at 877-299-5126 »800notes.com/Phone.aspx/1-877-299-5126 or go to www.instantgrant-search.com »www.instantgrant-search.com
These scammers even have an embedded video of the President's stimilus speech on the site: »www.instantgrant-search.com/irs-···ck-2008/
The BBB even has an alert posted on the mailing scam:
TIP NUMBER ONE
www.instantgrant-search.com (877-299-5126 or 202-683-1479) Sending Random Letters and Stimulus Check Examples
It has been brought to BBBs attention by regional consumers that letters with dated stimulus check samples in the amount of $7,000 (and at the bottom states, "This is not a negotiable instrument subject to Article 3 of the UCC". Back indicates "Non-Negotiable * Do Not Cash") are being randomly sent as a direct mail piece with the offer for you to register today to receive your Secondary Stimulus Checks. All you need to do is call them at either number to find out how.
When you call the number, a recorded message states that the check for $7,000 cant be cashed, however, for $49.95, you can find out how you can make money in the real estate market. The fee is for a foreclosure market kit, which contains 2 CDs, as well as access to foreclosure lists.
BBB feels that this mailing is misleading and that it draws red flags, namely:
1) The web site does not disclose where this company is located. When BBB called the number to gain this information, it was put on indefinite hold with no response.
2) The company asks an upfront fee for a product (kit) that cant be reviewed or researched for its efficacy or validity prior to purchase.
3) The Copyright Notice for the web site states that the Registered Copyright Agent for this company has the following address: Instantgrant-search.com, 4384/4A Ansari Road, New Delhi 110 002 India, 63 2 857 2057
4) What seems like a grant search program is really a company offering to send you a kit (for a fee), rather than a company offering you viable ways to get cash to help you solve your financial problems.
BBB ADVICE According to www.Grants.gov grants are not benefits or entitlements. A federal grant is an award of financial assistance from a federal agency to a recipient to carry out a public purpose of support or stimulation authorized by a law of the United States. Grants are not federal assistance or loans to individuals.
For more information or inquiries on a company, visit www.bbb.org. BBB and Grants.gov offer the following information on federal grants and related scams:
No government grant-making agency will make phone calls; send email or letters to solicit money or personal banking information from a potential grant recipient. There are no processing fees for federal grants. Federal grants are not issued for personal use, but are intended for institutions and non-profits to carry out projects with a public purpose. Know who you're dealing with on the web. Scam artists will often post a web site with a name similar to a legitimate site. For US federal government sites, the extension should always be .gov; sites without this extension are fraudulent. If you have provided personal banking information to anyone claiming to be associated with a federal grant agency, call your bank immediately to prevent unauthorized access to your account. To obtain federal grant information and applications, visit the following web sites: www.grants.gov, www.usa.gov, www.govbenefits.gov.
»spokane.bbb.org/SitePage.aspx?si···art=8654
What makes this scam even more disturbing is that there are close to 7,000 domains registered to this fraudster, and all have the same theme.
RequestAGrant.com
Domain registered to an address China:
Registrant: Domain Leasing Co-Leased to: RequestAGrant.com +86.75533944260 Domain Leasing Company reg@domainleasingcompany.com Shenzhen Futian Anlian - 4018 Jin Tian Road Shenzhen,Futian District,CN 518026
Domain Name:requestagrant.com Record last updated at 2008-04-09 12:01:09 Record created on 2008/4/9 Record expired on 2009/4/9
Domain servers in listed order: ns1.fsn.org ns2.fsn.org
Administrator: name:(Administrator) Email:(admin@domainleasingcompany.com) tel-- +86.75533944260 Domain Leasing Company reg@domainleasingcompany.com Shenzhen Futian Anlian - 4018 Jin Tian Road
RequestAGrant.com IP Address: 38.102.255.195 Reverse IP: 6,776 other sites hosted on this server. Way too many to list, all are of the same genre.
So thousands of websites masquerading as being in Washington DC, e.g.:
Text excerpt: quote: instantgrant-search.com
Instant Grant Search
Washington DC 20039
Support Hotline: (202) 683-1479 or e-mail us to request a special needs grant.
Welcome to Instant Grant Search - Source of Free Money From the Government


Note the icons for legit entities, such as CNN etc.
By submitting this form I am ordering the Grant Resource Information and trial membership. After the seven day trial I will be charged sixty eight dollar and thirteen cents a month thereafter if I do not cancel. I have read and agree to the PRIVACY POLICY and Terms & Conditions. Cancel any time by calling 1-800-235-1364 or 1-888-276-8105
Of course as stated your 7 day trial begins fron the ORDER date. Wait a day or two and ship it media mail. If you are lucky it will arrive on day 7. I have not checked reports but I bet they rarely answer those phones either.
Clearly the scammers are trying to hide, domains registered to an address in China. The scammers could be anywhere around the globe. However, as listed in the BBB report instantgrant-search.com has this on the "copyright page":
quote: 3) The Copyright Notice for the web site states that the Registered Copyright Agent for this company has the following address: Instantgrant-search.com, 4384/4A Ansari Road, New Delhi 110 002 India, 63 2 857 2057
instantgrant-search.com
It is one this one too:
requestagrant.com
It is a hallmark that is on all of them:
Registered Copyright Agent Attn: Copyright Complaint Instantgrant-search.com ------> insert domain name and duplicate 4384/4A Ansari Road New Delhi 110 002 India 63 2 857 2057
Though the domains are registered in China, when we ad India into the ingredients, it narrows down the location of the scammers. In fact, the focus is no longer global. It actually points back to the US. Many US based affiliate and PPC entities use Indian IT resources to develop and code, cheaper labor. It is very common, and not a typical MO of for example eastern EU based scammers. As I have mentioned before, one of the tactics in the cyber forensic sleuthing of scammers is to cast a wide net of what they are doing today. Then try and track them as far back in history as you can. Scammers get better at hiding as time goes by. They learn from their mistakes, and are constantly developing new obfuscating tactics. While it may be very difficult to track them down now, the further you can trace their history the more likely you are to find clues as to who they are.
With that in mind lets go and have a look again at the scam domain the OP listed requestagrant.com. We know that it is hosted on IP 38.102.255.195 along with 6,700 cousins.
OrgName: PSINet, Inc. OrgID: PSI Address: 1015 31st St NW City: Washington StateProv: DC PostalCode: 20007 Country: US . ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.cogentco.com:4321/ . NetRange: 38.0.0.0 - 38.255.255.255 CIDR: 38.0.0.0/8 NetName: PSINETA NetHandle: NET-38-0-0-0-1 Parent: NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS.PSI.NET NameServer: NS2.PSI.NET Comment: Reassignment information for this block can be found at Comment: rwhois.cogentco.com 4321 RegDate: 1991-04-16 Updated: 2005-10-05 . RTechHandle: PSI-NISC-ARIN RTechName: IP Allocation RTechPhone: +1-877-875-4311 RTechEmail: . OrgAbuseHandle: COGEN-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Cogent Abuse OrgAbusePhone: +1-877-875-4311 OrgAbuseEmail:
OrgNOCHandle: ZC108-ARIN OrgNOCName: Cogent Communications OrgNOCPhone: +1-877-875-4311 OrgNOCEmail: . OrgTechHandle: IPALL-ARIN OrgTechName: IP Allocation OrgTechPhone: +1-877-875-4311 OrgTechEmail:
. So let's check out rwhois.cogentco.com 4321
== Additional Information From rwhois://rwhois.cogentco.com:4321/ == . 38.102.255.195 network:ID:NET-2666FFC01A network:Network-Name:NET-2666FFC01A network:IP-Network:38.102.255.192/26 network:Postal-Code:90069 network:State:CA network:City:West Hollywood network:Street-Address:8721 Santa Monica Blvd network:Org-Name:Global Ad Agency Inc network:Tech-Contact:ZC108-ARIN network:Updated:2008-10-13 12:35:56 network:Updated-by:Gus Reese
. Global Ad Agency Inc using a California address. However searching the CA DIV of Corporations database returns zero hits for Global Ad Agency Inc. A corp listing a CA business address needs to be registered in that state, so there is a violation. Keep that name in mind though. That /26 is a chunk of IP space.
Let's see what RequestAGrant.com was up do since its born on date in China of 04/09/2008:
IP history: requestagrant.com
Event Date Action Pre-Action IP Post-Action IP . 2008-04-11 New -none- 63.216.206.242 2009-01-05 Change 63.216.206.242 38.102.255.195
So on 01/05/2009 it moved from IP 63.216.206.242:
OrgName: Beyond The Network America, Inc. OrgID: BNA-42 Address: 450 Springpark PL Address: Suite 100 City: Herdon StateProv: VA PostalCode: 20170 Country: US
NetRange: 63.216.0.0 - 63.223.255.255 . . . CustName: GAA-LA Address: 8721 Santa Monica Blvd City: West Hollywood StateProv: CA PostalCode: 90069 Country: US RegDate: 2007-06-27 Updated: 2007-06-27
NetRange: 63.216.206.0 - 63.216.206.255 CIDR: 63.216.206.0/24 NetName: GAA-LA NetHandle: NET-63-216-206-0-1 Parent: NET-63-216-0-0-1 NetType: Reassigned Comment: , RegDate: 2007-06-27 Updated: 2007-06-27
Looks like the same outfit, anything still on 63.216.206.242 ?.:
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| reply to Hardcore Lets Pull out # 112 on that above list:
quote: Whois Record Registrant: Bob Robinson paul@targetron.com +1.4242203220 Wild Zest Domains 6080 Howard Hughes Center Drive Los Angeles,CA,US 90045
Domain Name:credit-online-help.com Record last updated at 2008-08-08 03:24:21 Record created on 2008/8/8 Record expired on 2009/8/8
Domain servers in listed order: ns1.dns-diy.net ns2.dns-diy.net
Administrator: Bob Robinson paul@targetron.com +1.4242203220 Wild Zest Domains 6080 Howard Hughes Center Drive Los Angeles,CA,US 90045
Domain email addresses are good trackers because the address needs to be available to the real owner in order to process confirmation replies, sometimes even for DNS changes. Likewise, assigned DNS settings are also worth watching.
Many of the domains are using fsn.org or fsn.com, also variations of domain-leasing-company.com such as domainleasingcompany.com. However they are all intertwined. For example paul@targetron.com aka "Bob" aka "Wild Zest Domains"
targetron.com for example, now has an address in China:
quote: Registrant: Domain Leasing Company Reg@DomainLeasingCompany.com +86.75533944260 Domain Leasing Company Shenzhen Futian Anlian - 4018 Jin Tian Road Futian District,Shenzhen,CN 518026
Domain Name:targetron.com Record last updated at 2008-11-14 04:03:09 Record created on 1996/5/30 Record expired on 2009/5/30
Domain servers in listed order: ns1.domain-leasing-company.com ns2.domain-leasing-company.com
. However in 2006 it was using a Honk Kong address:
quote: Registrant: Domain Leasing Company reg@domainleasingcompany.com +852.30197176 Domain Leasing Company 68 Johnston Road, Unit B - 11/F Trust Tower Wan Chai,HK,HK 00000
Domain Name:targetron.com Record last updated at 2006-05-18 16:13:53 Record created on 1996/5/30 Record expired on 2007/5/30
Domain servers in listed order: ns1.domain-leasing-company.com ns2.domain-leasing-company.com
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Also let's have a closer look at dns of FSN.ORG and partner FSN.COM because they have been around for almost 12 years:
Domain ID:D346763-LROR Domain Name:FSN.ORG . Created On:22-Apr-1997 04:00:00 UTC Last Updated On:19-Nov-2007 07:46:08 UTC Expiration Date:23-Apr-2013 04:00:00 UTC . Sponsoring Registrar:OnlineNIC Inc. (R64-LROR) Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED Registrant ID:ONLC-489413-4 Registrant Name:Financial Services Network Inc Registrant Organization:Financial Services Network Inc Registrant Street1:68 Johnston Road, Unit B - 11/F Trust Tower Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Wan Chai Registrant State/Province:HK Registrant Postal Code:00000 Registrant Country:HK Registrant Phone:+852.90162006 Registrant Phone Ext.: Registrant FAX:+852.90162006 Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email: reg@domainleasingcompany.com . Admin ID:ONLC-489413-1 Admin Name:Chintana Maspakorn USA # +1 425-259-4000 Admin Organization:Chintana Maspakorn USA # +1 425-259-4000 Admin Street1:68 Johnston Road, Unit B - 11/F Trust Tower Admin Street2: Admin Street3: Admin City:Wan Chai Admin State/Province:n/a Admin Postal Code:00000 Admin Country:HK Admin Phone:+852.90162006 Admin Phone Ext.: Admin FAX:+852.90162006 Admin FAX Ext.: Admin Email: reg@domainleasingcompany.com . Name Server:NS1.FSN.ORG Name Server:NS2.FSN.ORG Name Server:NS3.FSN.ORG Name Server:NS4.FSN.ORG
The name Chintana Maspakorn has an interesting history: »www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2···akorn%22
Now take a look at FSN.ORG circa 2005 and note kong@bbmt-bkk.com
Domain ID:D346763-LROR Domain Name:FSN.ORG Created On:22-Apr-1997 04:00:00 UTC Last Updated On:07-Feb-2005 09:42:15 UTC Expiration Date:23-Apr-2013 04:00:00 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:OnlineNIC Inc. (R64-LROR) Status:OK Registrant ID:ONLC-489413-4 Registrant Name:Financial Services Network Registrant Organization:Domain Leasing Company Registrant Street1:68 Johnston Road, Unit B - 11/F Trust Tower Registrant Street2: Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Wan Chai Registrant State/Province:n/a Registrant Postal Code:n/a Registrant Country:HK Registrant Phone:+8.290305054148 Registrant Phone Ext.:1111 Registrant FAX:+1.023181400886 Registrant FAX Ext.: Registrant Email:kong@bbmt-bkk.com
And its mate FNS.COM, as of today:
quote: Registrant: Financial Services Network Inc. reg@domainleasingcompany.com +86.75533944260 Domain Leasing Company Shenzhen Futian Anlian - 4018 Jin Tian Road Shenzhen,Futian District,CN 518026
Domain Name:fsn.com Record last updated at 2007-11-19 03:54:34 Record created on 1994/12/7 Record expired on 2015/12/7
Domain servers in listed order: ns1.fsn.org ns2.fsn.org
We have a name for FSN = Financial Services Network Inc. and wow, it is a 15 year old domain, now that could be interesting. How far was this scammer looking into the future back then. Were all the bases covered?. Apparently not:
quote: Domain: fsn.com - Domain History Cache Date: 2003-01-19 Registrar: ONLINENIC, INC. --------------------------------- Registrant: Navestar 110 W. Water Street Elmira,NY,UNITED STATES 14901
Domain Name:fsn.com Record last updated at 2002-11-11 14:05:46 Record created on 1994/12/7 Record expired on 2003/12/7
Domain servers in listed order: ns1.domain-leasing-company.com 203.194.195.16 ns2.domain-leasing-company.com 203.194.195.17 . Administrator: Paul navestad kong@bbmt-bkk.com 607-735-5540 . Navestar Elmira,NY,UNITED STATES 14901 . Technical Contactor: Paul navestad kong@bbmt-bkk.com 607-735-5540 . Navestar Elmira,NY,UNITED STATES 14901 requestagrant.com . Domain servers in listed order: ns1.fsn.org ns2.fsn.org
. Now we have something to sink our teeth into: kong@bbmt-bkk.com and especially:
Paul navestad Navestar Elmira,NY,UNITED STATES 14901
Soemone went to an awful lot of trouble to spread the operation around the globe, China, India, Hong kong. Besides the obvious scamming reasons to hide, was there more?
Oh a lot more, it appears Paul navestad has a very good reason not to be connected to this in any way. Unfortunately for Paul, he pays little attention to legal orders such as:
Upstate NY DMer Settles With FTC
Jan 9, 2002 12:00 PM
Two Elmira, NY-based financial direct marketers and their owner have agreed to pay approximately $350,000 to settle Federal Trade Commission charges that they deceptively marketed two advance-fee grant and loan programs.
The programs were called Free Cash Grants and Borrowing Made Easier.
According to the FTC, Navestar D.M. Inc. Financial Services Network-USA, Inc. and their president, Paul navestad violated the FTC Act and the Telemarketing Sales Rule by misrepresenting that consumers who purchased either of two programs were likely to receive grants and loans. They used direct mail, and direct response TV, radio and newspaper ads across the country.
In addition to paying the $350,000 in restitution, the defendants are permanently banned from advertising, marketing or selling any credit or grant-related goods or services
What was that from 2002 AGAIN !!
the defendants are permanently banned from advertising, marketing or selling any credit or grant-related goods or services .
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| reply to Hardcore That 2002 action was not the first time:
For Release: June 20, 2000 . FTC, States and Canadian Provinces Launch Crackdown on Outfits Falsely Promising Credit Cards and Loans for an Advance Fee
In another aggressive sweep targeting corporations and individuals that promise loans and credit cards for an advance fee, but never deliver them, the Federal Trade Commission, state Attorneys General and other state agencies today announced the results of the latest crackdown on telemarketing companies and individuals allegedly engaging in advance fee loan scams. Since September 1999, over 4200 consumer complaints against these scams were entered into Consumer Sentinel, a multi-agency law enforcement investigative cyber tool. During this period, advance fee loan scams ranked fourth based on the total number of Sentinel complaints, and caused over $1 million in consumer injury.
"Operation Advance Fee Loan 2000" -- a multi-agency law enforcement sweep against fraudulent advance fee credit schemes -- is a follow-up to three previous sweeps announced in 1996, 1997 and 1999. "Operation AFL 2000" involves five cases filed by the Commission, thirteen actions taken by state Attorneys General and/or other state officials, and three cases filed by Canadian law enforcement authorities who have taken criminal actions against Canadian advance fee loan scam operators that prey on Canadian and American citizens.
"Advance fee credit scams are especially outrageous because they prey on the most vulnerable consumers who are in need of credit or a loan," said Jodie Bernstein, Director of the Federal Trade Commission's Bureau of Consumer Protection. "Working with the states and our Canadian partners, we are stopping lenders who illegally charge consumers a fee for the promise of a loan or credit card. Our warning to these disreputable lenders is, we will track you down and stop your illegal practices. Our message to consumers is, don't pay for a promise -- it's illegal for lenders to ask you to pay for credit before you get it."
According to the FTC, fraudulent advance fee loan schemes prey on particularly susceptible consumers -- students, the elderly, the unemployed, the working poor, those who have bad credit ratings, or those in immediate need of money for emergencies. Most advance fee loan scam artists snare consumers through cold calls, or in response to advertisements in various local newspapers, on cable television, on the Internet and through direct mail. Ads promising "money to loan ... regardless of credit history" lure consumers into paying fees that range from $45 to $149 or more, in advance of receiving "guaranteed" loans or credit cards. In many instances, consumers never receive the promised credit, and either never hear from the lenders again or are merely sent credit card or loan applications.
Under the FTC's Telemarketing Sales Rule (TSR), a telemarketer who guarantees consumers a loan or other form of credit, or who claims he or she can arrange such credit for a consumer, is prohibited from asking consumers to pay any money before they receive the loan or credit. The Rule empowers each of the state Attorneys General to file actions in federal court and seek an order that applies nationwide against Rule violators. Some of the cases announced today (see list below) allege Rule violations; others allege violations of the FTC Act or state laws that prohibit unfair or deceptive practices. These latest actions show a continuing, coordinated effort among domestic and international law enforcement agencies to combat such fraud.
Operation AFL 2000 Law Enforcement Actions In all but one of the FTC cases announced today, the defendants were charged with violating the FTC Act and the TSR by misrepresenting that consumers would receive a credit card for an advance fee, and by charging a fee in advance of consumers receiving the promised credit card; one case involving solely direct mail solicitations charged only FTC Act violations. In two of the FTC cases, the defendants also were charged under the FTC Act and the TSR with misrepresenting that consumers would receive a refund of their fee if they did not get the promised credit. In one case, the defendants also were charged with collecting fees without authorization or in excess of authorized amounts and misrepresenting the same, in violation of the FTC Act and the TSR. In addition to the actions filed by the states and Canadian provinces (see attached table), the FTC filed its actions against:
Financial Services of North America, based in Hightstown and Toms River, New Jersey, alleging that the defendants misrepresent that consumers who pay a $69 to $99 fee will receive a guaranteed credit card, and that consumers' bank accounts will not be debited, or only for authorized amounts. In fact, consumers' accounts are debited without their authorization or in excess of authorized amounts, and consumers only receive a discount purchasing club membership and a credit card application, both requiring additional fees.
First Credit Alliance, Inc., based in Avon, Connecticut, alleging that the defendants have operated two deceptive advance fee credit card schemes. Consumers send in a $45 to $60 advance fee, based on claims in direct mail solicitations that they are likely to receive a credit card, and that they will obtain a refund if they do not receive the promised credit card. In fact, consumers receive neither credit cards nor refunds as promised.
Navestar DM, Inc., based in Elmira, New York, alleging that the defendants operate two programs charging advance fees. In the loan program, the defendants misrepresent that consumers purchasing the program for $45 are likely to obtain loans. In fact, all consumers receive is information on how to obtain a certificate of deposit placed in the consumer's bank, which purportedly will convince a bank to extend a loan in an equal amount. In the grant program, the defendants misrepresent that purchasers will receive grants in exchange for payment of a $47 advance fee, and that those who do not will receive refunds. In fact, consumers merely receive information on how to apply for a grant.
Credit Approval Service, based in Galveston, Texas, alleging that the defendants falsely promise that consumers will receive a credit card in exchange for payment of an advance fee of $99 or $129. In fact, all consumers receive is information about managing debt and credit card applications. The applications provided involve either additional fees or credit granting criteria that would preclude the guaranteed advance fee credit card promised in the initial solicitation.
Home Life Credit, based in El Monte, California, alleging that, through cold call telemarketing, the defendants falsely promise that they will provide credit cards to consumers who pay a one time $129.95 charge, debited directly from their bank account. In fact, they do not provide credit cards to any consumers. The proposed defendants are as yet unnamed, because of the telemarketer's deliberate attempts to conceal its identity and whereabouts. However, the court has entered an order preliminarily enjoining proposed defendants' activities and freezing their bank accounts, pending discovery of their identity.
At the request of the FTC, the federal district courts in four of the five cases have issued temporary restraining orders to halt the deceptive practices and to freeze the defendants' assets pending trial. In First Credit Alliance, the FTC has filed a motion for a preliminary injunction.
The Commission also announced today that staff had obtained a default judgment against an advance fee telemarketer in Georgia. In an earlier proceeding, the FTC's Southeast Regional Office (located in Atlanta) brought an action against Gerard Wallace, a/k/a Arshad Wallace, d/b/a Comtel Marketing & Management Systems, alleging that Wallace was engaged in a deceptive scheme to defraud consumers through the telemarketing of advance fee credit cards.
On May 25, 2000, the Court struck defendant's answer, entered a default judgment for $28,308.24 and a permanent injunction, and awarded the Commission $918.83 in attorney's fees as sanctions for the defendant's failure to comply with discovery orders. .
FTC File No. 0023179 -- Navestar DM; Civil Action No. 20-CV-6269T (F))
New York Attorney General State of New York v. Financial Services Network, USA and Paul navestad Mike Danaher (607) 721-8771
REF:»www.ftc.gov/opa/2000/06/afl2000.shtm
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1 edit | reply to Hardcore At what point is it futile to continue civil action against repeat offenders, who just ignore the government?. When does it become a criminal conspiracy against consumers?.
A more detailed version of the 2002 case:
January 9th. 2002
GOVERNMENT GRANT & LOAN SCAM BANNED FROM CREDIT BUSINESS
Joint Federal and State Investigation Results in $350,000 in Fines and Restitution New York Attorney General Spitzer and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) today announced settlements in cases brought against an Elmira-based company accused of preying on financially-troubled consumers with false promises of credit assistance.
According to Spitzer, Financial Services Network USA, Inc. (FSN) and its President, Paul navestad, deceptively marketed a "Borrowing Made Easier Program" and a "Free Cash Grant Program" to unsuspecting consumers. These consumers were led to believe that by signing up for these programs and paying an advance fee, they would automatically receive a loan or cash grant.
Instead, all they received was a packet of information on how to apply for a loan or grant. Most consumers did not even qualify for these loans or grants. Consumers who actually applied were told that there was no money to make the loan.
FSN and navestad were the targets of a case brought in 1996 by the New York State Attorney Generals Office which resulted in a settlement that required them to cease their deceptive business practices. The company continued to deceive consumers, however, by offering programs that claimed consumers were "pre-approved" for non-existent loans and grants.
In fact, the Free Cash Grant Program was promoted on letterhead and with a return address indicating that it was somehow connected to a federal program. Once consumers signed up for either of the programs and discovered the deception, they were unable to contact FSN or navestad to obtain a refund. All telephone calls were handled by an automated system that directed consumers to leave a name and number for someone to call them back. None of the calls were returned.
Attorney General Spitzers office brought a motion for contempt in federal court for the Western District of New York against FSN and navestad for violating the prior court order. At the same time, the FTC brought an action for violations of the Federal Trade Commission Act and Telemarketing Sales Rule.
"This settlement demonstrates that my office will do everything in its power to uphold the integrity of court orders and rid New York of businesses defrauding the public," Spitzer said.
FSN and navestad will pay $350,000 in settlement of the charges, of which $250,000 will go toward a consumer restitution fund. The remaining $100,000 will be paid to New York State to cover the costs of the investigation.
The settlement permanently bans FSN and navestad from advertising, marketing, promoting, offering for sale or selling of any credit-related goods or services in, to or from the State of New York, or assisting others in engaging in any of those activities. It also prohibits the company and its owner from misrepresenting in any fashion that consumers will receive grants or loans after the payment of a fee.
"I would like to commend the Federal Trade Commission for its cooperation in bringing these cases to a conclusion. It is an excellent example of federal and state cooperation to fulfill our joint mission of protecting the public," Spitzer said.
Any consumers seeking a refund are encouraged to contact the Federal Trade Commission at (877) FTC-HELP (1-877-382-4357) .
Individuals with any question may contact the Attorney Generals consumer help line at (800) 771-7755.
The Attorney Generals case was handled by Michael J. Danaher, Jr. Assistant Attorney General in the Binghamton Regional Office.
Ref:»www.oag.state.ny.us/media_center···_02.html
That apparently may NOT be a good example of protecting the public.... 2009 ...still at it?
Archives of company listing databases:
targetron,inc 110 w water st; elmira,NY 14901 State:NY 14901 City: elmira Telephone:(607)735-5540 Fax:(607)735-0011 SIC code:5734 www.targetron.com
Navestar Owner Navestar Email reg@domainleasingcompany.com Phone Numbers +1 607 735 5540 Address 110 W. Water Street Elmira, NY 14901 US
Navestar 110 w water st; elmira,NY 14901 State:NY 14901 City: elmira Telephone:(607)735-5540 Fax:(607)735-0011 SIC code:5734 Website : www.fulfillment-center.com
Registered Copyright Agent Attn: Copyright Complaint Fsn.com 4384/4A Ansari Road New Delhi 110 002 India 63 2 857 2057
quote: drch.net Registrant: Debt Relief Clearinghouse 110 West Water St Elmira,NY,UNITED STATES 14901
Domain Name:drch.net Record last updated at 2009-01-01 22:09:17 Record created on 1999/12/27 Record expired on 2009/12/27
Domain servers in listed order: ns1.domain-leasing-company.com ns2.domain-leasing-company.com
Administrator: navestad Paul (PN221) kong@bbmt-bkk.com 516-777-3823
GMX Farmingdale,NY,UNITED STATES 14901
Technical Contactor: BHCOM HostMaster kong@bbmt-bkk.com +1 760 360 4600
77-670 Springfield Lane, Ste. 11B Palm Desert,California,UNITED STATES 92211
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