Topic 'Re: Bah' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Bah-22012035 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:16:29 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:16:29 EDT Re: Bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Bah-22014916 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Bah-22014916 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:30:15 EDT Re: Bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Bah-22013731 said by pnh102:

This story points out some interesting facts.
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The State has lost 120,200 jobs in the last year, and North Carolina's unemployment rate has reached 8.7%.


This alone proves that broadband will do very little if not anything to increase employment.It doesn't prove anything of the sort.
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goodbye dad]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Bah-22013731 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:24:36 EDT Re: Bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Bah-22013611 quote:
This alone proves that broadband will do very little if not anything to increase employment. Over the course of the past 10 years it would be impossible to argue against the fact that broadband deployments have expanded significantly in North Carolina as well as in every other state. Simply put, more people can get broadband in 2009 than in 1999. However, unemployment has risen and fallen independent of broadband deployments.


While I can not really agree with that assessment based on broadband does give people new opportunities a connection with the outside world, new ideas, new information.

I have a farm in rural West Virginia, guess didn't have to add rural to West Virginia... Where I was planning on building cabins for vacation rentals. Having a high speed connection out there would help my business access to the outside world, best way to advertise something like that, lots of pictures and media. I would also be able to offer a connection to vacationers as there is not even cell service out there.

A lot of farmers live around me there, I would say it is a 50/50 split on them wanting broadband out there. The ones who don't are the old timers, people who have been living there, never left the county in the 70+ years they have been there and don't even have phone service or electric. Then there is the other half, who get whatever service they can, sadly that means dial-up or satellite.

There is DSL service one town away about 7miles. Which even surprised me, and after talking to one of the guys in town after he got DSL, he said "I never thought about broadband before, but now that I have it I wouldn't be able to live without it"

I think a lot of people who use dial-up in those studies that say they would never use broadband. Have never even been able to use broadband or don't understand what broadband even is. I bet as soon as they had a chance to use it they would want it.

I just do not get why people fight against rural broadband, and every time there is talk about rural broadband there is this fight of it is just a waste of time and money. While people in the city cry that they don't have 50Mbit service where they live, while there is still plenty in this country stuck with 56k.

I am just lucky enough that I live in the city 10 months out of the year, and only stuck without broadband for 2 months. I just don't know how those people stuck out in the rural areas with dial-up wanting broad band do it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Bah-22013611 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 14:06:45 EDT Re: Bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Bah-22013267 quote:
This alone proves that broadband will do very little if not anything to increase employment.


No, it does not prove such a thing. It could be broadband is a necessary, but not sufficient, element of job creation/retention.

Look at it this way, I'd bet that the state is utilizing more business tax incentives (of all types) today than it was 10 years ago. Yet, the State lost 120,000 jobs. Does that *prove* that tax incentives for businesses have little or nothing to do with increased employment?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Bah-22013267 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:06:41 EDT Bah http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Bah-22012035
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The State has lost 120,200 jobs in the last year, and North Carolina's unemployment rate has reached 8.7%.

This alone proves that broadband will do very little if not anything to increase employment. Over the course of the past 10 years it would be impossible to argue against the fact that broadband deployments have expanded significantly in North Carolina as well as in every other state. Simply put, more people can get broadband in 2009 than in 1999. However, unemployment has risen and fallen independent of broadband deployments.
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A state grass roots effort named the E-NC Authority has been working to shore up North Carolina's coverage gaps for years, and was one of the first outfits in the country to craft broadband maps.

I don't think it would be accurate to refer to E-NC Authority as "grass roots" as it was specifically created by the state government, as their website indicates:
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The e-NC Authority was preceded by the Rural Internet Access Authority, and was created on Aug. 2, 2000 by the N.C. General Assembly. The organization became fully functional in January 2001 and is governed by a commission appointed by the governor and the N.C. General Assembly. By legislative mandate, the e-NC Authority is housed and staffed by the N.C. Rural Economic Development Center.

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