Topic 'So is this why Hulu got kicked off of the Boxee?' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/So-is-this-why-Hulu-got-kicked-off-of-the-Boxee-22015428 en Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:11:36 EDT Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:11:36 EDT Re: So is this why Hulu got kicked off of the Boxee? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-So-is-this-why-Hulu-got-kicked-off-of-the-Boxee-22018264 said by funchords:

So last week Hulu was kicked off Boxee at the request of the entertainment industry and this week an industry-friendly device shows up on the vaporware counter? Coincidence?

The history of this is sickening. ZillionTV was going to give out the box for free, until someone pointed out to them that they could sell it. It has no HDD, so no tolerance for delay or drop -- it's cheap-assed non-robust design requires ISPs to degrade or slow other traffic!

Why do this? For the behaviorally-targeted ads, of course. Why does this thing seem so nasty? Who is behind this terrible idea? Who would take good technology and apply it to such a despicable purpose? Sierra Ventures, who gave $4 million in first-round funding only last month. And who is Sierra Ventures? They're the wonderful folk that brought us NebuAd!

And my stomach churns... ... and an ad for Zantac just appeared on my TV. DAMN IT!

and to answer my own question...
said by funchords:

So last week Hulu was kicked off Boxee at the request of the entertainment industry and this week an industry-friendly device shows up on the vaporware counter? Coincidence?
Probably.
Of course it isn't - it's just our illegal Hollywood RIAA/MPA-mob now tightens the grip while upping the ante in the Congress and White House...
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[/BQUOTE]]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-So-is-this-why-Hulu-got-kicked-off-of-the-Boxee-22018264 Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:08:25 EDT Re: So is this why Hulu got kicked off of the Boxee? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-So-is-this-why-Hulu-got-kicked-off-of-the-Boxee-22018240
Anyway, people found out that you could "hack" the barcode readers to read any barcode and run any program you wanted. So you could easily repurpose your free CueCat to serve another purpose if you so wanted. A community sprang up to do just that and CueCat (the company) threatened legal action claiming that they still owned the barcode readers. Unfortunately, for them, they didn't realize that if you give something to someone for free with no contract stating otherwise, you lose ownership of the product. (Doubly so if you mailed the product to people unrequested, as they often did.)

Getting back to ZillionTV, if this box was given out for free, I'm sure it wouldn't be long until some enterprising hacker (in the good sense of the word) figured out how to make the box do something else beneficial to the end user. Perhaps play content from another computer in your house. Still, if someone manages to do this, $50 might not be a bad price to pay for a household video player. It's about the only reason I'd keep an eye on ZillionTV. ;-)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-So-is-this-why-Hulu-got-kicked-off-of-the-Boxee-22018240 Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:04:22 EDT Re: So is this why Hulu got kicked off of the Boxee? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-So-is-this-why-Hulu-got-kicked-off-of-the-Boxee-22016492 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-So-is-this-why-Hulu-got-kicked-off-of-the-Boxee-22016492 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:38:19 EDT Re: So is this why Hulu got kicked off of the Boxee? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-So-is-this-why-Hulu-got-kicked-off-of-the-Boxee-22015444 ZillionTV was going to give out the box for free, until someone pointed out to them that they could sell it.I enjoyed that bit:
This service's affiliation to ISPs is so strong, you won't be able to purchase a box anywhere but through your ISP, for a one-time activation fee of $50. Berman said Zillion toyed with offering the boxes for free, but focus groups revealed that consumers would react suspiciously to a free hardware model.
Yeah uh, thanks, focus groups.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-So-is-this-why-Hulu-got-kicked-off-of-the-Boxee-22015444 Wed, 04 Mar 2009 19:00:02 EDT So is this why Hulu got kicked off of the Boxee? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/So-is-this-why-Hulu-got-kicked-off-of-the-Boxee-22015428
The history of this is sickening. ZillionTV was going to give out the box for free, until someone pointed out to them that they could sell it. It has no HDD, so no tolerance for delay or drop -- it's cheap-assed non-robust design requires ISPs to degrade or slow other traffic!

Why do this? For the behaviorally-targeted ads, of course. Why does this thing seem so nasty? Who is behind this terrible idea? Who would take good technology and apply it to such a despicable purpose? Sierra Ventures, who gave $4 million in first-round funding only last month. And who is Sierra Ventures? They're the wonderful folk that brought us NebuAd!

And my stomach churns... ... and an ad for Zantac just appeared on my TV. DAMN IT!

and to answer my own question...
said by funchords:

So last week Hulu was kicked off Boxee at the request of the entertainment industry and this week an industry-friendly device shows up on the vaporware counter? Coincidence?
Probably.
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