 WeSRT4
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Mobile, AL | He's right The nukes are about to fly in the wireless industry. You will see drastic measures to gain customers by the carriers offering cheaper and cheaper unlimited plans. There will be casualties. |
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me1212
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Pleasant Hill, MO | At leats we get lower prices.  |
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 KrKHeavy Artillery For The Little GuyPremium
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Tulsa, OK
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No, he's not right. It's hardly collapsing. Maybe what he fears is that insane profit margins will collapse as competition forces them back down to reasonable market levels.
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Let's hope we also see an end to the 5GB cap and/or lower data prices.
Haha yeah right. |
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said by WeSRT4:The nukes are about to fly in the wireless industry. You will see drastic measures to gain customers by the carriers offering cheaper and cheaper unlimited plans. There will be casualties. I'm not so sure. While the whole stock market had a major collapse last year(including wireless stocks) and this year the market as a whole has been much worse, the wireless industry has actually been up so far this year. I have a wireless sector mutual fund that is actually in the black this year. Maybe the investors know something he doesn't.
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me1212
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Pleasant Hill, MO | reply to fifty nine
If you can get verizon wireless internet I already know how to so that. |
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | You can easily do that on AT&T, too.
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to fAcEtIOUs
All you need to know is how to watch a 16 year old with their cell phone, and then imagine what kind of catastrophe it would take to remove said cell phone from the 16 year old's hands, and then figure the odds of such catastrophe. With that knowledge you can then predict that the Wireless industry is in no danger of losing money.
Yeah, 50% yearly growth is probably over but that is hardly corporate Armageddon.
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 Rogue WolfAte Your Homework, And Framed The Dog
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Troy, NY | reply to me1212
What is WRONG with you?! Lower prices means lower revenue, which means lower dividends for shareholders!
You selfish jerk, trying to save yourself a measly $20 a month! Won't you think of the ultra-rich?!
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4 edits | said by Rogue Wolf:What is WRONG with you?! Lower prices means lower revenue Not necessarily. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. In many cases lower prices will create enough new customers to actually drive revenue and sometimes profits as well higher. It all depends on the fixed vs variable marginal costs and the costs of acquiring & handling extra customers. Companies keep staff on hand to answer those questions and project what prices will result in maximum profits. Of course, that is an art successful companies do very well and not so succesful companies do poorly.
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All those towns, States, pensions, 401K's, IRA's, college savings accounts....screw them! |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
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Valencia, CA | reply to fAcEtIOUs
I think wireless in general will do better than the average company for multiple reasons:
1 - Cheaper to own/use than a landline
2 - People are ditching their landlines to use wireless
3 - For low use users, prepaid is very viable option
4 - Family plans
There will be a time that WILL come when the wireless market becomes saturated. When that day comes, it will be a bigger issue. |
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | 5. Wireless users have been trained that absolute rubbish constitutes "service".
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Rogue WolfAte Your Homework, And Framed The Dog
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Troy, NY | reply to fAcEtIOUs
Ah, I already know that, TK. Forgive the facetiousness, but I was trying to use a little levity in the situation.
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Rogue WolfAte Your Homework, And Framed The Dog
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Troy, NY | reply to jebba2005
Y'see, I know that there are a lot of interests riding on stock prices. I'm not honestly saying "screw the shareholders". The problem is that people like Mr. Moffett see stock prices as the only worthwhile concern for companies- never mind such things as investing in future technologies, improving customer service or increasing employee compensation. This ilk sees customers as nothing more than a money spigot, and believes that all businesses should extract maximum costs for minimum effort and shunt every last dime into dividends to boost up stock prices, so that people like Mr. Moffett can make fortunes playing those stocks on the market.
As for the customers... in effect, Mr. Moffett is saying "screw them". That's people like you and me, friend.
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said by RadioDoc:You can easily do that on AT&T, too. att sucks... they are a ripoff and they do not care about your satisfaction either. big business is arrogant and disrepectful to those who want fast and cheap broadband |
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said by jebba2005:All those towns, States, pensions, 401K's, IRA's, college savings accounts....screw them! Maybe the wireless industry should take a page from the API's (American Petroleum Institute) playbook and "educate consumers" on how paying through the nose is actually good for you. Not only are you likely a stakeholder in their business (albeit however tangentially), but paying outrageous fees is helping to prop up the US employment rate and creates high-paying jobs.
Someone just needs to sit you down and show you why paying exorbitant rates is in your best interest. Do it for you. Do it for the USA.
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said by jadebangle:said by RadioDoc:You can easily do that on AT&T, too. att sucks... they are a ripoff and they do not care about your satisfaction either. big business is arrogant and disrepectful to those who want fast and cheap broadband AT&T actually doesn't suck. I am a AT&T customer myself and really never had any serious problems out of that weather related one (that was outside the control of AT&T). It's their tech support that sucks beyond all. They barley understand how their system works (I don't even think the techs think their wireless internet uses IPv4); but hey look at it from a technical standpoint - if they don't know the whatcha-ma-call-it from the thing-a-ma-jig then you can get away with so much on their network . Most of the providers don't care about the technical users, they cater to the average user and since the average user is dumb...they just want phones and devices that just work and are so easy to use a 5 year old can use them (its pretty insulting if you think about it!). In fact every time I call up I talk to a person pretty quickly - now getting my problem solved is another story in itself.
I don't see AT&T's network to be a bad one, in fact on my mobile phone I have noticed that AT&T DOES NOT "wall garden" you, or in other words, prevent you from using services on other ports (such as FTP, RDP...ect), which I believe T-Mobile used to do that. Even in a recent conference tmobile still believes that "limiting the customer experience make for a better customer experience"...
And you wonder why wireless is at a standstill. It's coming, the next era of information age, where all the access to the internet will be in the palm of your hands (no I'm talking about google). Someone in the near future will setup a way to get newspapers, tv, movies, music, magazines all in one device. And all the data will be OTA, wither the provider likes it or not. |
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to k1ll3rdr4g0n
Re: He's right My experience is the same. I have had no problems with Internet access via AT&T Wireless such as blocked services or other "walled garden" nonsense. Even normal SMTP works.
Your info device looks a lot like a Kindle 2, by the way. |
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