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Satellite internet for trucks and rv's

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reply to PKDestroyer
Ouch! Well I suppose if that's all I can get I can see about starting my own mobile service off of those. erm... maybe....

reply to PKDestroyer
Why don't you try EVDO. Millenicom.com ..Sprint or vzw towers no cap,no contract

If you care to look at »www.datastormusers.com you will find a few thousand users with mobile satellite internet, mostly at the consumer level. You will also find many that have EVDO on top of their satellite service, because there are so many places in this country where:

a) EVDO works better than satellite
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b) EVDO is a joke, but your satellite will work fine

Recommending EVDO for those in a fixed location, if they can get it, makes sense. For a mobile person who wants or needs a good connection all of the time an EVDO recommendation always has to be qualified. There are places in this country that probably won't have broadband in our lifetimes.

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reply to PKDestroyer
PKDestroyer, we are literally days away from having our hybrid GPRS/EDGE Return - satellite modem ready for distribution which may work for your situation.

All we're waiting on is for the firmware to be configured for U.S. providers now.

Last December, I saw it working within AT&T's network, we had consistent wireless outbound speeds @ 170k (AT&T) connected to AMC-15 (satellite) @ 1.5Mb (EchoStar) and it was amazing! Will that suffice for what you're thinking here?

BTW since there isn't a microwave satellite transmitter on this unit just the LNBF, anyone will be able to setup this system without FCC certification or the expense. I can see this system helping the many first responders throughout the country getting their network communications set up anywhere there is power or and cellular data coverage available, all within an hour.

Let me know and I hope that we can help. OK?

Regards,

When there is no terrestrial return channel available, like in the situation in Western Kentucky, yes, it's by far the best way to get communications back up and running. Most of the companies and offices that First Response Group works with, all have 2-Way contracts for such cases.

One of the things that they have told us is that it usually takes over 36 hours on average to get communications back up and running and the high costs. I thought consumer grade plans were high!

As any well thought out contingency plan, the more choices the better. Most importantly, reinstating communications is vital in these circumstances.

The example of how your system helped several folks and offices is a great story.

reply to PKDestroyer
As I've stated ad nauseum to this point, trying to convince people that dial-return is in any way superior to satellite return is an exercise in futility. The 33.6k (or 44k) inroute is simply pathetic in comparison, not to mention the time wasted waiting for dialup to complete the loop. The ISDN version ain't much better at 64k - and only equal to the the cheapest satellite return systems at 128k. But at least it's a step closer to emulating the "always on" feature of satellite return systems. But trucks and RV's can't employ ISDN either.

GSM on the other hand has possibilities. There are considerable areas of the US where they could use the GPRS/EDGE configured version. And the 118k inroute potential does actually approach entry level (128k) satellite return inroutes. So the question really boils down to one of recurring charges.

The monthly rates for SkyWay's dial return plans include "Nationwide dialup access" as part of the subscription. Will this apply to the GPRS/EDGE plan(s)? Or will the subscriber be responsible for footing the inroute costs? Because if nationwide GPRS/EDGE access is included as part of a reasonably priced monthly subscription, THAT's a system I might be willing to field test for you. The dish is small enough to fit in the truck of my car, and the power supply wouldn't need a very big invertor. It may take take a little while to find the right sized tripod. But from that point I could set it up for random testing as I travel.

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With Skyfx/Starconnect they did not have a local dial-up number for me,so I paid an extra $16.00 a month for a local dial-up from the phone company add the price of a second phone line, Hughesnet comes in cheaper. plus it stays connected to the internet so I can run my weather station uploads.
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reply to grohgreg
Hybrid GPRS/Edge Modems: Yes, the GSM plans will be offered on a Flat rate, 1 bill. I'll place you on our list for beta-testers as soon as the GPRS/Edge modem is ready to go. We expect it to be ready any day. Michael and I will be in Mayfield later this month, maybe it will be ready and we can drop it off?

Obviously you know your technology inside and out and I look forward to hearing what you have to say about this exciting new solution.

Regards,

[BQUOTE=bbinabox maybe it will be ready and we can drop it off? [/BQUOTENo problem. Contact me via site IM for directions, or for a deliver address if it's not ready by your Mayfield trip.

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reply to PKDestroyer
Sorry it did not work out Greg on the 24th. Meeting rescheduled for next month sometime.

UPDATE: We recently tested our new GPRS/EDGE hybrid modem and saw consistent 80Kbps uploads (AT&T) and 170Kbps uploads (T-Mobile) with consistent 1.1+ Mbps downloads (AMC-15/EchoStar Fixed Satellite Corp.)

One test conducted = requesting a 100Mb file

Satellite received: 106976 kB
GPRS/EDGE received: 46 kB
GPRS/EDGE sent: 153 kB

Will keep you posted.

Have a good night all.

I don't understand the "one test conducted" numbers, but I'm sure they'll vary by location and installation quality. But the uploads shouldn't. I wonder why T-Mobile returns >2x the speed of AT&T.

My farm is located at the very edge of T-Mobile GPRS/EDGE coverage, and the AT&T map is only slightly more optimistic. That said, it sounds like this would be an excellent place to test fringe coverage operation.

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Greg, I've traveled much of the country using Sprint along side another who is a Verizon user. There was NO place where we got the same speeds, up or down. >2x difference was very, very common. In any given place one or the other would be faster.

In other words I would only have been surprised if the test had shown the same results for two wireless carriers.
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reply to PKDestroyer
Our building here in Louisville is notorious for bad cell signals. I have to walk outside to use my Verizon if I want to complete a call without dropping it.

The AT&T signal was at only 2 bars. The T-Mobile was at 5 (do you hear me now?). The SW-20 GPRS/EDGE modem comes with an external antenna and it helped.

We have been testing for a week and should have more results shortly. Our manufacturing/engineering partners will be in from Europe on Tuesday, so we're all excited to get things kicked off very soon i.e. FCC cert, evaluation units in, etc.

I just received some .75 Prodelins from SatEng, and they are beautyful. You can a photo of one of them here - »broadbandinabox.blogspot.com/

reply to bbinabox

In my case I cannot definitively say that there is a speed/strength correlation - didn't keep the kind of records that would tell, one way or another. I would say that in most cases where we had an EVDO signal it was fairly good, and both of us are running amplified external antennas.

We presume the difference to be in loading and backhaul capabilities of different carriers in different locations.
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