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SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

Not a celebrity, but rather a tool of Google

So, Robb Topolski goes to work for the "New America Foundation," an inside-the-Beltway DC lobbying group whose strings are pulled by Google.

The New America Foundation, which claims to be a "public interest" group, in fact is a lobbying arm of Google in DC. Its agendas all correspond precisely with those of GoogleClick -- a rich corporation which is the largest invader of personal privacy on the Net. (Between DoubleClick tracking cookies, "Google Analytics," and its ability to read GMail users' e-mail and develop profiles and dossiers on them, Google has a lot to worry about should Washington crack down on its abuses. So, Google is using the monopoly rents it gleans from its monopoly on Internet search to thwart privacy legislation and at the same time to lobby for regulation of ISPs -- the companies best positioned to compete with it and prevent it from tightening its grip on its monopoly still further.

Robb Topolski proved himself to be a worthy "useful idiot" for Google when he set himself up as a "poster child" for Comcast's horrible, awful, unconscionable (NOT!) abuses, which consisted entirely of throttling back bandwidth hogs and pirates. And Robb lied before the FCC while speaking in favor of its agenda. And so, because he served their patron so bravely, Robb was rewarded by Google's astroturf lobbying groups in DC -- including "Free Press" and "Public Knowledge" -- with "consulting" work.

This work will continue at New America, of course, and we can expect more of the same falsehoods from him in the future, I am sure. He's likely to be involved, for example, in the "M-Labs" testing tools, which provide misleading and inaccurate measurements of ISP performance. (The purpose of the tools is to find fault with ISPs' service, so as to make a bogus case for regulation of the Internet.) This will hurt all of us as Internet consumers. But the lobbyists don't care; all they want is more big bucks from Google.


DataRiker
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For many on this site net neutrality is more important than privacy, since at least we can take steps ourselves to protect most of our privacy on the net.

Also, i feel many people like myself could not care less if anyone watched what sites i visited. Seems like a waste of time to me.

Also, your statement that comcast only throttled "pirates, and "bandwidth hogs", is absolutely untrue, as well as lame.



sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

reply to SuperWISP

said by SuperWISP:

So, Robb Topolski goes to work for the "New America Foundation," an inside-the-Beltway DC lobbying group whose strings are pulled by Google.

The New America Foundation, which claims to be a "public interest" group, in fact is a lobbying arm of Google in DC. Its agendas all correspond precisely with those of GoogleClick -- a rich corporation which is the largest invader of personal privacy on the Net. (Between DoubleClick tracking cookies, "Google Analytics," and its ability to read GMail users' e-mail and develop profiles and dossiers on them, Google has a lot to worry about should Washington crack down on its abuses. So, Google is using the monopoly rents it gleans from its monopoly on Internet search to thwart privacy legislation and at the same time to lobby for regulation of ISPs -- the companies best positioned to compete with it and prevent it from tightening its grip on its monopoly still further.

Robb Topolski proved himself to be a worthy "useful idiot" for Google when he set himself up as a "poster child" for Comcast's horrible, awful, unconscionable (NOT!) abuses, which consisted entirely of throttling back bandwidth hogs and pirates. And Robb lied before the FCC while speaking in favor of its agenda. And so, because he served their patron so bravely, Robb was rewarded by Google's astroturf lobbying groups in DC -- including "Free Press" and "Public Knowledge" -- with "consulting" work.

This work will continue at New America, of course, and we can expect more of the same falsehoods from him in the future, I am sure. He's likely to be involved, for example, in the "M-Labs" testing tools, which provide misleading and inaccurate measurements of ISP performance. (The purpose of the tools is to find fault with ISPs' service, so as to make a bogus case for regulation of the Internet.) This will hurt all of us as Internet consumers. But the lobbyists don't care; all they want is more big bucks from Google.
These words coming from a crappy ISP like you carry a lot of weight and have no bias whatsoever.

Robb exposed the bad "management" practices Comcast has/had and those that would like to follow those practices (like you) are now upset they were exposed.
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AVonGauss
Premium
join:2007-11-01
Boynton Beach, FL

reply to SuperWISP
Sounds like you're trying to do a bit of lobbying yourself...


SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

reply to sturmvogel

said by sturmvogel:

Robb exposed the bad "management" practices Comcast has/had and those that would like to follow those practices (like you) are now upset they were exposed.
Not true at all. Our ISP has always fully disclosed its management practices. Without them, our quality of service would be destroyed by P2Pers and bandwidth hogs.

SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

reply to AVonGauss

said by AVonGauss:

Sounds like you're trying to do a bit of lobbying yourself...
I don't have the money to lobby; I'm a hard working, small, honest businessman. However, when the weather is bad as it is today, I can take a bit of time away from providing rural folks with broadband (and they really want and need it!) to expose the lies told by corporate lobbyists such as Topolski. His group's message sounds populist until you look at who is funding it and what their goals really are.


sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

reply to SuperWISP

said by SuperWISP:

said by sturmvogel:

Robb exposed the bad "management" practices Comcast has/had and those that would like to follow those practices (like you) are now upset they were exposed.
Not true at all. Our ISP has always fully disclosed its management practices. Without them, our quality of service would be destroyed by P2Pers and bandwidth hogs.
Glad I am not one of your customers.
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Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries.


sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

reply to SuperWISP

said by SuperWISP:

said by AVonGauss:

Sounds like you're trying to do a bit of lobbying yourself...
I don't have the money to lobby; I'm a hard working, small, honest businessman. However, when the weather is bad as it is today, I can take a bit of time away from providing rural folks with broadband (and they really want and need it!) to expose the lies told by corporate lobbyists such as Topolski. His group's message sounds populist until you look at who is funding it and what their goals really are.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. If it takes a huge corporation to hammer another one for its practices against its customers, so be it.
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Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries.


sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

reply to SuperWISP

said by SuperWISP:

said by sturmvogel:

Robb exposed the bad "management" practices Comcast has/had and those that would like to follow those practices (like you) are now upset they were exposed.
Not true at all. Our ISP has always fully disclosed its management practices. Without them, our quality of service would be destroyed by P2Pers and bandwidth hogs.
What is the name of your company, again ? I sure would like to hear from your customers about your quality of service.
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Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries.


sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

reply to SuperWISP

said by SuperWISP:

said by AVonGauss:

Sounds like you're trying to do a bit of lobbying yourself...
I don't have the money to lobby; I'm a hard working, small, honest businessman.
You are a businessman. You are trying to deliver the service with the least amount of cost and you see client generated load on your network as bad because it costs you additional money. What is the driving force ? Greed. For you, it is good.

Your customers want to get the most usage (throughput) for the least cost (to them). Their driving force ? Greed. But in their case, it is a bad thing.

Why is it good for you and bad for them ?
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KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
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join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to SuperWISP
Wow, that sounds quite bitter....



KrK
Heavy Artillery For The Little Guy
Premium
join:2000-01-17
Tulsa, OK

reply to SuperWISP
And there goals are what exactly?

To destroy you? You make it sound that way....



sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

Free competition backed by large companies would definitely eliminate small ISP's like superwisp here that relies on a customer base that has to contend with meager offerings since no one else services them and have to take whatever he considers fair.
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KrK
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Tulsa, OK
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Well, he's claiming that Robb is a tool and being used for an agenda, but at the same time he's clearly forwarding his own personal self-interest and agenda. Perhaps if he could explain exactly what the problem is with Google and why he's convinced they are out to hurt us he'd gather more support then lashing out at Robb in what seems like a rant.
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SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

reply to sturmvogel

said by sturmvogel:

Glad I am not one of your customers.
Actually, so am I. We believe that people should obey the law and keep their agreements with one another.

SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

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said by sturmvogel:

You are a businessman. You are trying to deliver the service with the least amount of cost
Not true. If I wanted to be rich, I would have gone into a difference business. Providing broadband service to unserved for areas is, for me, a calling. However, our business must remain sustainable or our customers will ultimately be without service. A user should not expect to be able to take more bandwidth than his monthly fees will cover, nor to be able to degrade others' service so that he can download illegally copied materials or pornography.


knightmb
Everybody Lies

join:2003-12-01
Franklin, TN

said by SuperWISP:

said by sturmvogel:

You are a businessman. You are trying to deliver the service with the least amount of cost
Not true. If I wanted to be rich, I would have gone into a difference business. Providing broadband service to unserved for areas is, for me, a calling. However, our business must remain sustainable or our customers will ultimately be without service. A user should not expect to be able to take more bandwidth than his monthly fees will cover, nor to be able to degrade others' service so that he can download illegally copied materials or pornography.
Short of monitor everything your customers do, you'll never be able to get the kind of ideal customers you are talking about. Take measures into your own hands, invest in equipment that traffic shape properly and don't worry what others are doing. Just make sure everyone gets a fair slice of the pie for bandwidth and you'll always have happy customers. It didn't take me long to figure that out when I go into the WISP business.
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sturmvogel
Obama '08

join:2008-02-07
Houston, TX

reply to KrK
We are looking quite soon at a significant jump in Internet access as was from dial-up to broadband. That jump was driven by customer demand as will be this one. Remember that in the days of dial up being connected 24/7 was considered an "abuse" by "great" providers (AOL) which was very happy with ignorant users and only "hogs" and "hackers" had better connectivity as ISDN.

These days we take for granted the 24/7 connection and we see a bandwidth issue demonized by crappy ISP's that do not want to invest in infrastructure.

I expect that soon either fiber or some type of wireless will resolve this issue and dinosaurs like CC will become a niche provider as is dial up today.
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SuperWISP

join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY

reply to knightmb

said by knightmb:

Just make sure everyone gets a fair slice of the pie for bandwidth and you'll always have happy customers.
Not true, alas. There are some customers who always want to hog bandwidth and want your rates to be below your cost. I'm sure that the person who posted above wouldn't be happy with a fair price.


DataRiker
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reply to SuperWISP

said by SuperWISP:

said by sturmvogel:

Glad I am not one of your customers.
Actually, so am I. We believe that people should obey the law and keep their agreements with one another.
Using Bit Torrent is not illegal. Any network under 100% utilization is just a wasted network. Networks are there to use, remember?

Further more one can easily shape traffic not based on protocols, but rather on usage. This would prevent any user from getting unfairly slow speeds.

One can do this on my 50 dollar DD-WRT (linksys) router. Surely you can do better than that.

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