| reply to Pv8man
Robb Topolski isn't for free market capitalism. He is in favor of Internet regulation, which is the antithesis of capitalism (regulation drives capital away) and free competition. |
|
Pv8man
join:2008-07-24
Hammond, IN | There is a difference between Capitalism,
and F***ing consumers in the A**.
You don't think we need any internet regulations?
Imagine what the US would be like without any internet regulation.
The large ISP's would run a muck, and be doing ANYTHING that they deem profitable. |
|
|
|
| reply to SuperWISP
said by SuperWISP:He is in favor of Internet regulation, which is the antithesis of capitalism (regulation drives capital away) and free competition. He is in favor of LAWS to prevent abusive ISP's for not delivering the services they are PAID for.
--
Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries. |
|
| reply to Pv8man
said by Pv8man:There is a difference between Capitalism, and F***ing consumers in the A**. You don't think we need any internet regulations? Imagine what the US would be like without any internet regulation. The large ISP's would run a muck, and be doing ANYTHING that they deem profitable. The guy you responded to is a small wireless ISP, I believe. He is all for the abusive tactics that were unraveled by Robb's hard work, so he is trying to throw mud.
And there is a difference between capitalism and uncontrolled monopolies.
--
Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries. |
|
| reply to Pv8man
said by Pv8man:You don't think we need any internet regulations? Imagine what the US would be like without any internet regulation. Lest we forget, the Internet exists in the first place thanks to the fact that it was able to grow without regulation. Regulation kills innovation and plays right into the hands of the largest corporations. Regulate, and you'll drive all competitors out of the business -- leaving only the monopoly cable and telephone companies behind.
So, yes, I'm imagining what the Internet is like without regulation. It's great that way -- and should stay that way. |
|
| reply to sturmvogel
said by sturmvogel:He is in favor of LAWS to prevent abusive ISP's for not delivering the services they are PAID for. Not so. The laws Topolski favors would in fact prevent ISPs from managing their networks. They would therefore prevent ISPs from being able to ensure that you get what you pay for. |
|
| said by SuperWISP:said by sturmvogel:He is in favor of LAWS to prevent abusive ISP's for not delivering the services they are PAID for. Not so. The laws Topolski favors would in fact prevent ISPs from managing their networks. They would therefore prevent ISPs from being able to ensure that you get what you pay for. ISP's should be able to manage their networks as far as they respect the contract and the contract being fair to both parties. Shady practices, outright lies, treating your customers as criminals are not part of the management Robb supports and I applaud him for it.
--
Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries. |
|
| reply to SuperWISP
said by SuperWISP:said by Pv8man:You don't think we need any internet regulations? Imagine what the US would be like without any internet regulation. Lest we forget, the Internet exists in the first place thanks to the fact that it was able to grow without regulation. Regulation kills innovation and plays right into the hands of the largest corporations. Regulate, and you'll drive all competitors out of the business -- leaving only the monopoly cable and telephone companies behind. So, yes, I'm imagining what the Internet is like without regulation. It's great that way -- and should stay that way. Certainly regulation kills "innovation" as in you buying a bag of 4 lbs of potatoes and getting instead 2 lbs of potatoes and a brick, since the bag really says Bag of potatoes, 4 lbs, but does not says that it contains 4 lbs of potatoes, right ?
Same thing with that 6 Mbit connection "available" 24/7 but really usable only 3 hrs a day.
--
Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries. |
|
| reply to SuperWISP
said by SuperWISP:said by Pv8man:You don't think we need any internet regulations? Imagine what the US would be like without any internet regulation. Lest we forget, the Internet exists in the first place thanks to the fact that it was able to grow without regulation. Regulation kills innovation and plays right into the hands of the largest corporations. Regulate, and you'll drive all competitors out of the business -- leaving only the monopoly cable and telephone companies behind. So, yes, I'm imagining what the Internet is like without regulation. It's great that way -- and should stay that way. There WAS regulation. Governed by the RFC's, as in you shall transmit packets and not alter them as in fake RST's, no ?
--
Obama '08. Will help resolve the terrible broadband issues we have that put us so far behind other countries. |
|
| said by sturmvogel:There WAS regulation. Governed by the RFC's, as in you shall transmit packets and not alter them as in fake RST's, no ? You clearly do not understand the difference between standardization and regulation. Hint: they're different.
Oh, and RST packets have been used for decades to manage network traffic. We've been doing it for 17 years using open source software, and many commercial network management products do it as well. |
|
| reply to SuperWISP
Not so. The laws Topolski favors would in fact prevent ISPs from managing their networks. That has absolutely never been the case, Brett. |
|
 DarkLogixPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | said by Karl Bode:Not so. The laws Topolski favors would in fact prevent ISPs from managing their networks. That has absolutely never been the case, Brett. Ya he seems to support the DSCP based (easy to implement) traffic managment ideas which would be a big step up from DPI, Sandvine, and data usage caps |
|
