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Re: [Scam] Ebay Motors Scam

said by Andy655 :

After receiving multiple calls I have found that

The Wall Street Collection is a FRAUD company
This is the cell phone of one of scammers:
732-310-3370

This is FRAUD website, it does not have any dealership information.
What connection does this have to the topic here and eBay Scams/Craiglist Scams??
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Andy655

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reply to Hwnsista
After receiving multiple calls I have found that

The Wall Street Collection is a FRAUD company
This is the cell phone of one of scammers:
732-310-3370

This is FRAUD website, it does not have any dealership information. Just nice design.

www.wallstreetcollection.com
877-3913819

Well english spoken guys try to make it look legit.You are going to be contacted by them.


gotscammed

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reply to Hwnsista
Beware out there, I think these people have gone the lowest ever. They use the military in vain so to speak to scam innocent people. The military gives us all freedom and this is how these people show appreciation for that. Beware of Captain Nichollas Bennett claiming he is with 152nd airwing in Reno, Neveda. The agents name from ebay was Brian Dickson. Don't let this happen to you


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oh, well, yea


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said by pcdebb See Profile :

and boy was it a long-winded story! He's been selling that car all over the US using craigslist. It's only still up in a few cities, but He posted like a madman!
Fixed that for you. He is a madman, btw.
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said by jwey20 :

Watch out for this one jessica_elliott112@comcast.net

Just thought I would post the email address and "story" that "she" gave me so that one of these immoral, and terrible people do not steal hard earned money from someone,
Mahalo for taking the time to post the "story", it might just save someone from getting ripped off.
When someone who is selling any large ticket item that has a "story" to explain the circumstances surrounding the sale it must be considered a work of fiction in this day & age.
bottom line: escrow via eBay & a story = run away as if the devil himself were selling the item.
and boy was it a long-winded story! She's been selling that car all over the US using craigslist. It's only still up in a few cities, but she posted like a madman!
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said by sbrook See Profile :

A telltale sign of a scam on ebay is where the entire ebay ad is clickable! The dealer creates an image that blows out the entire ebay page, essentially replacing it with the dealer's own page. Anywhere you click takes you to his website so you're no longer dealing with ebay.
You mean their own presonally styled site or their own eBay 'clone' site?


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A telltale sign of a scam on ebay is where the entire ebay ad is clickable! The dealer creates an image that blows out the entire ebay page, essentially replacing it with the dealer's own page. Anywhere you click takes you to his website so you're no longer dealing with ebay.


emy7105

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my husband saw the same postings and I started researching because it didn't sound right...and the amount of money is weird 2930...why not just 3000. After checking the vin # doesn't check out and more than one car came up for that number and vins can only be used for one vehicle....unless of course there is something illegal involved. Thanks for posting.


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said by jwey20 :

Watch out for this one jessica_elliott112@comcast.net

Hello there ,

First of all here are some details you may want to look over :

So here is how it will work:

1.First of all I will need the following details from you:

- Full Name
- Full Shipping Address

2. After I will receive the details from you, I will forward them to eBay

I have found the listing on craigslist multiple times in states that aren't even close to new york,
eBay doesn't work that way. You are making a purchase via email instead with absolutely zero protection from/through eBay at all and that is the scam indicator. "Nothing" on Craigslist or any other web site is a legitimate vehicle purchase with EPP from eBay as there is no direct eBay involvement unless there is a Buy it Now or Bid Now Auction link to »www.motors.ebay.com/ and you must go to eBay Motors, log in, then select the vehicle clicking Buy it Now or placing your bid.

For eBay to be involved you must initiate/make a vehicle purchase at eBay Motors using your eBay account or else it is 100% a outright scam when they try to tell you they will contact eBay on your behalf.
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said by jwey20 :

Watch out for this one jessica_elliott112@comcast.net

Just thought I would post the email address and "story" that "she" gave me so that one of these immoral, and terrible people do not steal hard earned money from someone,
Mahalo for taking the time to post the "story", it might just save someone from getting ripped off.
When someone who is selling any large ticket item that has a "story" to explain the circumstances surrounding the sale it must be considered a work of fiction in this day & age.
bottom line: escrow via eBay & a story = run away as if the devil himself were selling the item.


jwey20

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Watch out for this one jessica_elliott112@comcast.net

Hello there ,

First of all here are some details you may want to look over :

Price : $ 2,930
This car is in excellent working conditions, no  scratches.
flaws or any kind of damage, slightly used in 100% working and looking conditions
VIN:      1N4AL11D32C170282
Mileage:     88,200 miles
2002 NISSAN ALTIMA LEATHER SUNROOF ALLOY WHLS NEW TIRES
Power Windows    Air Conditioning    AM/FM Radio
CD    Power Steering    Cruise Control
Power Door Locks    Leather          
Power seat
Power Seat Driver                    
Air bag
Dual Air Bags
MORE pictures can be found at : »img694.imageshack.us/gal.php?g=78723743.jpg

I'm glad to see your interest in purchasing my car.(2002 Nissan Altima 2.5 SL - price : $ 2,930 )
What can I tell you in a few words is that I am an individual seller, I am not a dealer and this is my first type of posting

usinging Craigslist. The car that I have for selling is mine , it is personal property and I am going to sell it because I was

promoted to my work and in the same time they gave me a new car for work and moving for my needs. In conclusion, I don't need two

good cars for the moment and I decided, after a discussion with my husband (sometimes is very difficult to be persuasive, you know

what I mean) about selling my car, because it is sensles to keep the car only to occupy the garage.
The final price that I want for this car is $ 2,930 , so let me know if you are interested so i can provide more details.

As for payment : I have a contract with eBay so this deal must go through them .According with  eBay you have 5 days
from the time you receive the car to inspect it and decide if you want to keep it or not, in this time ebay will escrow the money
to their own account.You will probably think that this is little risky , and I understand your concern ,I thinked like this when I

did deals in the past.
But after I give it a try I never got problems and i was sure that the method was the safest, fastest and fairest method to deal
over internet .I also understand that you can't trust in some one or a some method of transaction until you make one or 2 deals. I
put myself in your place and by the situation that you receive the merchandise before the seller receive the money is an excellent
method that assures your money( the buyers money).

The reason i want to make it this way is that i just relocated in Manhattan,New York ,and i have the car here with me ready to be

shipped.

So here is how it will work:

1.First of all I will need  the following details from you:

- Full Name
- Full Shipping Address

2. After I will receive the details from you, I will forward them to eBay.
3. After they will process your info, they will send us both invoices. The invoice will send you the details on how to make a
refundable payment.
4. eBay will contact me and I will ship the car to you. After you receive the car you will have 5 days to test, verify and do
whatever you need to the car.
5. If you will decide that you will not buy the car,  eBay will refund the money and I will have the shipping company come pick up
my car.

Have A Great Day.
Jessica

I have found the listing on craigslist multiple times in states that aren't even close to new york, and I'm almost 100% sure it's a scam so watch out. It use the same general things, eBay motors, car descriptions, shipping the car, but an admittedly more believable story so watch out. Just though I would post the email address and "story" that "she" gave me so that one of these immoral, and terrible people do not steal hard earned money from someone, especially a young person like me who, worked during high school to earn their money through minimum wage, which would be terrible.


Felt

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reply to Hwnsista
I saw this forum and I couldn't resist posting, since I was so close to getting caught up in this scam. I came across three different scams involving cars within a week - three!

Two of them used the exact same format. Which makes me think there must a number of formats scammers use, but these two happened to use the same one. Those two were the 'single woman who just got a job as a dealer on a cruise ship' format. The third one was 'recently divorced woman who is moving closer to parents and therefore must sell the car'.

Like I said, I wanted to put my two cents in, so here it goes: if the ad you see shows the car in a different area then what the seller tells you in their email, that should be the first and last sign you need.

I know there are other signs too, but some of those could be mere coincidence. But there is no excuse for the ad showing the car on one side of the world, while the seller tells you in their email that it is on the other side.

That happened to me all three times, and by the third time, I definitely realized the importance of location. Shouldn't they keep their story straight? But they can't, because that's not even their ad. They find a random ad on the internet and try to base their story around it. But the problem is, they can't easily get around the location difference. So they throw the whole 'it's ready to be shipped at a warehouse in [insert random area here]' spiel. And do we ever bother asking why the location changed from the original ad? I know I didn't. But I should have.

Anyway, I just hope no one falls prey to this scam. When something is too good to be true, it probably is. Word to the wise


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Saw a very similar scam to this on ebay selling a lawn tractor!


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said by Mike200015 :

I found a good car deal on AutoTrader, and got a similar email about moving overseas to the U.K. and the car is being held by eBay in their warehouse. I am not sure 100% if it is a scam, but looks very similar to the ones I've been reading here. What do you guys think of this?

Email is as follows:
"
Once i get the details from you I will forward them to ebay and they will proceed the order. Ebay will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that i am covered by them and that I am legit seller."

I am really suspicious of this, but cannot be sure.
It is 100% a SCAM.

1] Ebay does *not* have a warehouse that they store vehicles in for sellers or buyers aka customers.

2] For eBay to be involved in the sale part, you *must* have a eBay Account and you must select then purchase the vehicle from one of the listings at »www.motors.ebay.com and no where else. You do not give your private information direct to a stranger claiming to be a seller, you place your buy order through the eBay Motors web site using either an auction, Buy It Now, or Best Offer and they then notify the owner that you have purchased the vehicle. eBay then gives all your info that is required for the seller to contact you and make arraignments.

3] eBay tells you to *NEVER* pay with Western Union or Money Gram. Neither of those offer any form of escrow, the money is GONE as soon as it is picked up and you have no recourse.

4] All official email through eBay or from eBay will also be seen in your eBay Mailbox/Messages when you sign into eBay under your eBay account.

Read up on eBay as they tell you what is required and what is a scam.

»www.motors.ebay.con/

eBay Motors > Buy > Vehicle Purchase Protection
»pages.ebay.com/ebaymotors/buy/pu···tection/
quote:
Eligibility Requirements

Participation in the VPP program is subject to the following eligibility requirements:

You have successfully completed the purchase of a vehicle* priced at more than $100 from one of the following categories on the eBay Site:


[snip eBay catagories]

Note:
* You will be deemed to have successfully completed the purchase if you receive confirmation in your "My eBay" that you have successfully won, or purchased, an item through an auction, Buy It Now, or Best Offer.
Craigslist Scams and Fraudulent Use of Vehicle Purchase Protection
»forums.ebay.com/db1/topic/Ebay-M···10078002

Also read: »[Scam] Ebay's Motor Vehicle Protection Program (VPP)
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It's a scam, for sure.

The reference to eBay is pretty clear evidence of this. It is clear eBay policy, that everything in the sale be done through the eBay site, and not privately. So this is a scammer trying to make it sound as if eBay is involved, when there is no actual eBay involvement.
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reply to Hwnsista
I found a good car deal on AutoTrader, and got a similar email about moving overseas to the U.K. and the car is being held by eBay in their warehouse. I am not sure 100% if it is a scam, but looks very similar to the ones I've been reading here. What do you guys think of this?

Email is as follows:
"
If you are interested in it you should know that it has never been wrecked or damaged, the car is in excellent condition. To get more photos and description please access this URL »www.pixagogo.com/... . The total price that I’m asking including shipping and insurance fees will be $2,500.00CDN. The car is absolutely perfect, it has a clear title, has never been repaired, never been involved in any type of accident or had any paint or body work done! I moved to England, United Kingdom due to my work, where European specs are different from the Canadian ones and it costs me too much driving it legally here and also there is nobody interested in buying it here that’s why I am selling so cheap hoping to find a buyer since the car is located in Canada. If you are still interested please let me know and i will provide you more information about the payment and shipping. "

And the follow-up email was:

"The current location of the vehicle is British Columbia, Canada under ebay's custody ready to be delivered to the buyer!I have a verry easy way of making the exchange i will explain everything:
Ebay is supervising the entire sale process from payment, transportation with a 14-day inspection period included, returns (if needed, no extra costs here) and refunding. The car is in their warehouse in Vancouver, B.C. ready for delivery. I can provide free transportation to any location in Canada in maximum 4 days! Before that you have to make the payment up front to ebay the full amount. You will also receive all the documents, title with my signature on the back for a quick ownership exchange, all manuals and 3 sets of keys. If you are really interested in this deal I need the following details from you: full name, address for delivery, phone number.
Once i get the details from you I will forward them to ebay and they will proceed the order. Ebay will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that i am covered by them and that I am legit seller."

I am really suspicious of this, but cannot be sure.

Mike

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Look up Ebays Motor Vehicle Protection Program (by Jdiva) in the forums. I just posted it and can't duplicate...plz let me know what I should do.
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said by not2bscammed :

I too have received an eerily similar email from someone stating that if I tell them I am interested that they will notify ebay so one of their representatives can contact me. The conversation is nearly verbatim to what I have read in other posts. The original ad was posted through a website in Utah KSL.com Here is a copy of my email from "her":

My car is still available. Acura only 32,100 original miles on board, it is located in Windsor, CT, you should know that it has never been wrecked or damaged, the car is in excellent condition. Non-smoker. The inside is clean, like new. Runs great, very smooth, meticulously maintained. To have a finish like this, it is obvious that this vehicle has been garaged. All the manuals, clear title and the original documentation come along with the car. I love this car but I have to let it go. It will come with a clear title, bill of sale signed by me as well and all the papers (including the original manuals and keys) that you will need to register it under your name. I had a buyer offering $3,300 but his loan didn't get approved. Why is the price so low? I am going trough a divorce, my financial and medical problems that I have and with our economy imagine this. So I'm willing to let it go for ($2,800 + $200 shipping cost already paid) $3,000 and since I only have one, First come, First served.The vin # is: 19UUA66275A049449 I guarantee that you will be more than 101% satisfied to own my car.I will wait to contact me ASAP, I need to know if you are really serious to become the owner.Right now the car is at the DAS (trucking company) warehouse kept in a sealed container ready for delivery and since I am not at home right now a test drive it is not possible. However I do offer an inspection period prior buying the car if we close the deal trough ebay motors vehicle purchase protection program.The car will be insured during transportation and it will be delivered at your address in maximum 1-2 business days (depends of your location). Along with the car you will receive a bill of sale in your name and signed by me and the title of the car. All I want is from you is if you are agree so I can contact ebay and after that, they will contact you and explain, guide you all the steps of the transaction and insurance.
I love the little things in their sales pitch that makes me laugh. "101% satisfied". Really? why not just the 100% or 110% or something? I didn't find any dirty hits on the vin

as far as DAS, I guess it's easy to exploit them, being they are a shipper of legit cars being sold on ebay. a person trying to verify if they are a real shipper will find that they really are, but not for the nefarious reasons in these fake ads.
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