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reply to jfhdk

Re: [Scam] Ebay Motors Scam

reply to Hwnsista
Hello!
I was also a victim of Ebay Motors Scam.
"Her" name was Kelly Preston!
Don't buy any vehicle from www.canadatrade.com
There is a lot of scammers there!

Wow look at the text about an Ebay Motors agent.

reply to vallly
HAHA vally.. i recieved the same reply from Lt. Sean Brendan. Its exactly word for word what you have posted

reply to Cedes

Re: [Scam] Craiglist / Ebay Motors Scam

reply to Hwnsista

Re: [Scam] Ebay Motors Scam

I would suggest that you not spend more money on an attorney. He is almost certainly overseas and adept at hiding his tracks.

I understand your frustration, but what part of:

[ OFFERS TO SHIP CARS ARE 100% FRAUDULENT ]

On the top of every Craigslist auto page didn't you understand?

reply to Hwnsista
Sgt Lucas has been busy...

reply to Hwnsista
It amazes me that there are still people that fall for this crap.

A simple Google of key name(s) and the VIN is all the searching you will need to do.
Since they know what Ebay and Craig's list are, they should know what Google is.

Key information that shows it is a scam;
The vehicle is over-seas
The "owner" is in the military(usually an officer)
Some type of escrow account
Description of the vehicle seems "boiler-plate" - Google "I was sent here to improve the military relationships between our country", seems these guys get their stuff from a scammers supply store.
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It is better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

I think they learn it here: »www.universityofnigeria.com/

reply to Hwnsista
Thank god for this forum!

I just found a Mini Cooper S on autotrader.ca for super cheap:

»www.canadatrader.com/result/deta···columbia

I emailed the seller and she responded with a fair amount of details:

"Hi,

My name is Samara. We are selling our house and both cars because we are moving to Monaco from where my husband is. We are originally from Whitehorse and the car is here with us. If you are interested in buying it, shipping is about $800, which I agree to pay half of it.
The transaction will be managed by the eBay Purchase Protection team, so everything will go smooth. You will receive the car for inspection before you make any payment to me. If you are interested in completing this deal with us, just give me a reply as soon as possible and I will reserve the car for you and also give you more details about the car and how to complete this transaction with us.

Final Price: 3900$ (shipping included)

Regards,
Samara & Gérard

Vehicle Details

You can see more photos right here:
»s680.photobucket.com/albums/vv16···coopers/

26,900 miles ~ 50.000KM.
Manual.
Clean title.
Never involved in accients.
Etested and Safetied.
"

Sounds very similar to your army scammers.

reply to Hwnsista
This was from a Land Rover posted on Auto Trader

From: Alan Martins [mailto:alanmartins46@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 5:13 PM
To: Robert Hertling
Subject: Re: Range Rover Sport for sale

Hi,

To give you a pertinent explanation of the under market price all I can say is that I'm ruined.... this crisis ate me alive and I've almost lost my business. I desperately need some money to save my business so I need to sell my car. Two days ago I've put myself on a plane to Goteborg, Sweden because I need to renegotiate a contract here. Because of this I've already arranged the shipping anywhere in the US and it is included in the price. It would be hard to reach each other on the phone due to the time difference. Anyway, here is my number: +46313607468. Given the nature of this transaction please note that my sale terms are final and non-negotiable.
The transaction will be made through eBay for the safety of both of us. In order to do this we will have to follow a few easy steps:

- I start the transaction through eBay;
- you give me your shipping address so I can arrange the shipping;
- they send you an invoice with the payment details;
- you send the money to eBay Motors Payment Department;
- I will start the shipping;
- you receive the vehicle and inspect it;
- you accept the vehicle and eBay pays me.

eBay Motors will hold the money until the car and the the clean title are delivered to you. You will have 5 days for inspection from the moment you receive the car. If the car is not like described, you will have to ship it back on my expense and eBay will give you a full refund. This way, you will be able to inspect the vehicle before committing to buy it and I know that you have the money and you are serious about buying it. I've left all the car's documents in the glovebox and you'll receive them along with the car. This includes the title, service records, original manuals and a bill of sale. The title and the bill of sale are signed by me, all you have to do is to put your name on them.

In order to move forward I will need your full name and shipping address.
eBay will get in touch with you with further details and instructions.
Looking forward to hear from you!

Alan

I received the exact same email following up on a somewhat questionable listing for a Toyota Highlander on Autotrader. The only real difference was the name of the alleged seller. I'm glad I searched the web to see if it was a scam. Here's the email I received:

Hi,

To give you a pertinent explanation of the under market price all I can say
is that I'm ruined.... this crisis ate me alive and I've almost lost my
business. I desperately need some money to save my business so I need to
sell my car.I confirm that the price is $23,700. I attached the pictures to
this e-mail. Two days ago I've put myself on a plane to Goteborg, Sweden
because I need to renegotiate a contract here. Because of this I've already
arranged the shipping anywhere in the US and it is included in the price. It
would be hard to reach each other on the phone due to the time difference.
Anyway, here is my number: +46313607468.Given the nature of this transaction
please note that my sale terms are final and non-negotiable.
The transaction will be made through eBay for the safety of both of us. In
order to do this we will have to follow a few easy steps:

- I start the transaction through eBay;
- you give me your shipping address so I can arrange the shipping;
- they send you an invoice with the payment details;
- you send the money to eBay Motors Payment Department;
- I will start the shipping;
- you receive the vehicle and inspect it;
- you accept the vehicle and eBay pays me.

eBay Motors will hold the money until the car and the the clean title are
delivered to you. You will have 5 days for inspection from the moment you
receive the car. If the car is not like described, you will have to ship it
back on my expense and eBay will give you a full refund. This way, you will
be able to inspect the vehicle before committing to buy it and I know that
you have the money and you are serious about buying it. I've left all the
car's documents in the glovebox and you'll receive them along with the car.
This includes the title, service records, original manuals and a bill of
sale. The title and the bill of sale are signed by me, all you have to do is
to put your name on them.

In order to move forward I will need your full name and shipping address.
eBay will get in touch with you with further details and instructions.
Looking forward to hear from you!

Michael

reply to adammon

reply to Hwnsista
alanmartins46@gmail.com is still up to it! Trying to pull a scam on Auto trader for a Toyota Tacoma. Hope this post saves someone from loosing any money here in Utah.

reply to Hwnsista
I was googling how to sell my vehicle (i'm stationed overseas) and stumbled across this site.

Advice to any one responding to some of these auctions or postings, ask for a military email address. When we join the military we are given an Army, Air Force, Marine or Navy email address we can use for non-official purposes.

It's usually something like this Joe.Snuffy@us.army.mil , us.af.mil, us.navy.mil and so on.

reply to Hwnsista
Greetings all,

It looks like someone from this racquet is at it again. I was searching AUTO TRADER for a Mercedes and found a good deal. Not a fabulous deal but just enough to get me interested. I emailed "Sean Nelson" about the car and this is the reply I received.....

"Hello,
Thank you for being interested in my MB CLK 550!
I want to mention that it is still for sale and I'm the first owner (non smoker)
The car has been meticulously maintained by myself and Mercedes-Benz Dealership so its in excellent condition and ready for a new owner!
Further I can say that it has only 39,066 miles, it runs & drives great, its very reliable and it hasn't been involved in accidents, even more it has no scratches, flaws or any kind of damage!
The car has been fully paid off so is not under bank liabilities and it will come with a clear title and transferable warranty.
The only reason I'm selling it is because my wife and I just had a new baby and because US Air Force notified me that I'm moving to Germany in four days from now.
As you can see the car is priced to sell quickly and the price that I'm asking for it is $20,200 (negotiable)
If you want to buy it I'm going to ship it directly to your home address at no costs on your side.
Anyway, if you're still interested in buying it please reply to this e-mail so we can make the deal.

Thanks!
Sean"

I replied stating I needed the VIN and a time and place to meet in order to evaluate the car in person and this is the response I received.....

"Hello,

The VIN is WDBTJ72J77F217494
I'm sorry but I'm not able to meet you these days because of my schedule but we can still make the deal thru eBay.
I'm affiliated at their Vehicle Purchase Protection Program and because I'm very busy I'm going to let them help me sell the car.
At this moment the car is located in New York sealed along with the proper documents (title, maintenance records, bill of sale, owners manual) at a storage facility, ready to be shipped.
Here are the details on how the deal will work:
- First of all, I need your information: name, shipping address and home/cell phone #
- After I receive your info I'll forward it to eBay, they will process our info and initiate the transaction.
- We will receive an invoice, your invoice will notify you how to make a refundable payment and the transfer will be done via bank to bank transfer.
Our transaction will be guaranteed by eBay and supervised by one of their representatives until its finished.
- If you agree with eBay VPP terms and decide to complete the payment, they will validate it and will contact me to authorize shipping.
Have a notion that shipping is already paid because I already took care of this on my costs.
- After you receive the car, you'll have a 5 days inspection period while you can test drive and verify the car, you can even take it to an independent mechanic for inspection.
If you like it and decide to keep it, the car will be registered on your name with properly executed title and you'll have to notify eBay and let them know that the car is as I described and that I can be paid.
If you decide that you don't want to keep the car, which I doubt, eBay will completely refund you within 3 days and I'll have to return the car on my costs.

I apologize if it seems like I'm pushing on the deal but time pressures me! Hope you understand why I'm conducting the deal in this manner and if you're fine with the terms please reply with the requested info so I can initiate the deal thru eBay.

Thank you for your time!
Sean"

Needless to say......this car isn't right for me, but others should be warned. Be very careful folks!

Ya know, I was listening to NPR on the way home from work yesterday, and they were discussing GM coming out of bankruptcy, new ways to sell cars, blah blah blah -- and then they said that GM is partnering with EBay to find new ways to appeal to customers...

Anyone else run across this info?

~Rowan

reply to Hwnsista
I was about to get a Mini Cooper on Auto Trader until I found this thread! I'm so happy I did! This guy is writing the same;

Here are the pics. I listed the car on Autotrader on multiple zip codes across the country to increase the chances of finding a buyer quick. I was able to do that since I am willing to ship the vehicle on my expense. I must have listed it on a zip code near to you. The car is in Boise, ID, in a sealed container, ready to be shipped.
To give you a pertinent explanation of the under market price all I can say is that I'm ruined.... this crisis ate me alive and I've almost lost my business. I desperately need some money to save my business so I need to sell my car. Two days ago I've put myself on a plane to Goteborg, Sweden because I need to renegotiate a contract here. Because of this I've already arranged the shipping anywhere in the US and it is included in the price.
Giving the nature of this transaction please note that my sale terms are final and non-negotiable.
The transaction will be made through eBay for the safety of both of us. In order to do this we will have to follow a few easy steps:

- I start the transaction through eBay;
- you give me your shipping address so I can arrange the shipping;
- they send you an invoice with the payment details;
- you send the money to eBay Motors Payment Department;
- I will start the shipping;
- you receive the vehicle and inspect it;
- you accept the vehicle and eBay pays me.