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Chandler, AZ | reply to knightmb
Re: Way to go! said by knightmb:Not right, what you are talking about is a software configuration problem. There is no reason why a single IP can monopolize a node unless someone didn't bother to set the pipe configuration properly (as often I've seen). BT opens a bunch of connections yes, uses a lot of bandwidth, yes, is out of control and can't be contained? Completely wrong. I have several customers that BT 24/7 and they don't affect anyone else because I know the difference between a traffic shaping setup based on priority and packet size and the same traffic shaping base that has a pipe size encompassing setting within the packet and priority settings. I think some of the ISP need to go back and read the manuals on their equipment. If you have problems with a kid running BT 24/7 at maximum saturation, then you contain his entire IP into a pipe and QoS/Shape based on that, not on how many connections your node can handle, completely wrong way to do it and exactly why what they are doing is not working. regardless of how the gears *should* be configured or are *able* to be configured, this is *how* they are configured. i assume that you would like to approach cox/comast/(insert name of mso here) and tell them that their gear is misconfigured? prolly won't fly...
also what kind of administrative overhead are we looking at to locate/confirm/throttle/notify/reinstate a user who has been found of throttling? comcast has a system that is protocol agnostic - but if you are bursting on your link and hit that magic utilzation cap, your entire experience suffers. if you attack those who are only utilizing certain layer-7 application headers you aren't being protocol agnostic (and therefore non-net neutral).
i see it as isps are damned if they do, damned if they don't. sure, they all could run fiber to the home, but that would be in a utopian pipe dream.
the idea has also been brought up that isps shouldn't oversubscribe like they do. this is something that i will generally agree with. heavy oversubscription (especially that done with cable systems) does promote a bad business model and i don't think that isps should be able to get away with such behavior. however, i have been very happy with the response time that cox gives to people. i was on an oversubscribed node near the local university. after working with cox over the period of a month, they split the node and speeds were back to where they should be.
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