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Locks On Bell Boxes?I have noticed that bell is now putting locks on the grey bell boxes (outside demarc) for some reason. Just wondering why they are doing this?
I remember last time i had a bell home phone problem they told me to take a phone outside and test it to see if its an issue on my home lines or a bell issue. Well how are people supposed to do this if its locked? |
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Keaters Premium Member join:2007-07-25 Windsor, ON |
Keaters
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2009-Mar-11 2:42 am
Re: Locsk On Bell Boxes?what do you mean locked?? Mine is not locked in Chatham ON....it might be that someone is hacking your phone and they want to protect it...you know, if you live in TO, you can have some sketchie people who live around there. |
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sbrook Mod join:2001-12-14 Ottawa |
to bryanviper
A normal NID has two parts ... the customer side and the telco side. Only the Telco side gets "locked". Used to be they did that with a security type screw, but a hole for a lock was there too. |
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Putting a lock on on the box of the demarcation point only prevents someone from easily plugging a phone into the jack. If someone really wants to tap into your phone line, it would only take a few minutes to splice the wire and hook a phone up that way. |
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said by Keaters:what do you mean locked?? Mine is not locked in Chatham ON....it might be that someone is hacking your phone and they want to protect it...you know, if you live in TO, you can have some sketchie people who live around there. Don't fool yourself there. Sketchy scums are every where, hicktown and big cities. |
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to Keaters
Well its not on my bell box but I have seen it on my cousins in Milton and a friend said he has the same lock on it.
But I think it locks everything so you cant open it at all if im not mistaken. |
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to bryanviper
Bell doesn't put locks on the box but instructs the sub to. A nut driver will open the sub side whether locked or not. The super secret "Telephone Company Only" side is opened with the same nut driver, or can wrench. 7/16 and 3/8. |
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sbrook Mod join:2001-12-14 Ottawa |
sbrook
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2009-Mar-11 3:06 pm
That's interesting. Mine is different ... it has 2 doors ... a telco one with a security screw and lock hole on it. Opening the telco one opens the customer one. The customer door is opened by a screw-it-up driver, and also is lockable and only opens the telco side. Ours looks very much like this one ... although the telco bolt head is different and has a separate lock hole for the telco side too. » www.bell.ca/support/PrsC ··· ge?sel=5 |
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carnesr join:2002-11-16 Sault Ste Marie, ON |
the one your describing, was designed for 6 lines, the one shown in this post is for 2, we dont actually use the 2 line ones anymore the newest ones are designed for 3 |
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said by ex bell :
Bell doesn't put locks on the box but instructs the sub to. A nut driver will open the sub side whether locked or not. The super secret "Telephone Company Only" side is opened with the same nut driver, or can wrench. 7/16 and 3/8. Gotta love how that first picture the NID isn't even grounded... |
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carnesr join:2002-11-16 Sault Ste Marie, ON |
said by Savillian Gotta love how that first picture the NID isn't even grounded... [/BQUOTE :guess we should send that guy back lol if i ever did that hear my boss would rip me a new one |
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ex bell to Savillian
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2009-Mar-11 5:54 pm
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6 Pair Nid |
Re: no ground, probably had to run a new drop and that's all he had on the truck for a splice box. |
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carnesr join:2002-11-16 Sault Ste Marie, ON |
said by ex bell :
Re: no ground, probably had to run a new drop and that's all he had on the truck for a splice box. regardless still seposed to be grounded even if just used as splice |
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ex bell
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2009-Mar-11 6:24 pm
I didn't say it was right, just a possible scenario. I see this all the time though. With home dispatch guys sometimes run out of stuff. Whereas back in the day we stocked up at the garage everyday, at least I did. |
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said by ex bell :
I didn't say it was right, just a possible scenario. I see this all the time though. With home dispatch guys sometimes run out of stuff. Whereas back in the day we stocked up at the garage everyday, at least I did. Would have to agree with you both on that. Hopefully that was the scenario the tech was in, but even so should have grounded as the next guy that goes along and says "Hey I have Bell box outside, I can rip this one in the basement out and run my ISW to it" Happens to often, especially with renos. |
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ex bell
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2009-Mar-11 6:55 pm
And talking of ground wires it used to be drilled into us but I dont know anymore. I went out on a prove in or out for an existing customer (no charge). I prove out and tell sub to call Bell. Bell comes and says inside and installs demarc (no charge). Happens once in a while so I am used to it. So I go back and the ground wire isnt hooked up but sitting inches from Nid. So I meter in again just in case, TOK, then plug set into demarc port and let sub listen to static. Tell her to call Bell back and ask the line be repaired and the ground hooked up (I didnt so the guy would see his mistake). Get a call back, jack not working I installed previously. Return, line fixed and ground not hooked up. He had to have gone in Nid as he disconnected one of the quads. She called back and it took the third guy to hook up the ground wire. I wonder how many others are out there. I check every one now. |
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said by carnesr:regardless still seposed to be grounded even if just used as splice Oh really! Is this a code or standard that is to be followed? I ask because I have a Bell installed box on my house being used to splice wires (it doesn't have a test jack either - though BELL INDIA seems to think otherwise). |
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peterboro (banned)Avatars are for posers join:2006-11-03 Peterborough, ON 2 edits |
peterboro (banned)
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2009-Mar-11 9:55 pm
There is a code its called the Red Book. Proper splice boxes have no ground accomidation. |
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carnesr join:2002-11-16 Sault Ste Marie, ON |
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it is a code that all lines must be grounded, now just because you have a box out side with no test jack in it does not mean your line is not grounded, a lot of homes still have prots in the house, and if we have to work outside and customer not home we use splice box, cause double grounding can also be bad |
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said by ex bell :
I didn't say it was right, just a possible scenario. I see this all the time though. With home dispatch guys sometimes run out of stuff. Whereas back in the day we stocked up at the garage everyday, at least I did. thats one of the nice things about working in small town like the soo, all the techs actually care, and it only takes a few mins to hit the shop and get something if your out, i park my truck at the garage, so its part of my end of day routine to stock up, i could take truck home but no place to park it |
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said by Thane_Bitter:said by carnesr:regardless still seposed to be grounded even if just used as splice Oh really! Is this a code or standard that is to be followed? I ask because I have a Bell installed box on my house being used to splice wires (it doesn't have a test jack either - though BELL INDIA seems to think otherwise). A ground is only needed if the device contains a test jack, because if you disconnect the inside wire (including the inside grounding device), and plug an extension cord or phone into the test jack, the system is no longer grounded. |
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carnesr join:2002-11-16 Sault Ste Marie, ON |
carnesr
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2009-Mar-16 12:56 am
given that we are talking about a NID there is a test jack, and old prots dont have test jack but still must be grounded |
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to bryanviper
Re: Locks On Bell Boxes?It's on your property, easy to open. There's a universal key that opens any of the locks. |
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LOL yea thats what i was thinking also. Since it is on my property and we are supposed to have access to it so we can use the test jack if we need to. |
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Actually that is not necessary as the lock goes through a plastic tab a 1/4 inch thick. I could almost snap it with my bare hands.
To top that a 3/8 nut driver bypasses the lock anyways so the Bell techs can get in! |
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CanerisErikCaneris Premium Member join:2007-10-03 Toronto, ON |
said by ex bell :
To top that a 3/8 nut driver bypasses the lock anyways so the Bell techs can get in! aka "can wrench" |
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