wifi4milez
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Re: Maybe america should stop tryiing to be the most wired.
said by me1212  :And be the least wired. AKA all wireless, I recall seeing that verizon was working on getting 60m down to it wireless costumers, maybe every1 should. Then they would not have to pay to run wires everywhere, they could just put up a tower where ever the main internet "hubs" are. Easier to maintain from a certain point of view, you do not have to look for a break in the miles of wiring just on the tower, or in the stuff going to said tower. I think that is what will end up happening. The main reason this country is less 'wired' than some European locales is the sheer size of the place. There are some (many) areas of this country that are so remote that bears outnumber people 10 to 1. Places like that will never be wired, nor should they. Even in semi rural areas, it doesnt necessarily make sense to spend millions of dollars to provide access. With new wireless technologies slowly becoming viable (LTE, Wimax, etc.) I suspect that within the next 20 years we will see a shift from wired connections (cable, DSL, fiber) to wireless in all but the urban centers and surrounding areas.
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me1212
join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
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| you too are both correct, IMHO. We need more wireless for 2 reasons. 1: easier to deploy just put up a tower and not run miles of lines, but still get service to people maybe 12mi away if you do it right. 2: less outages due to broken lines, some1 digin a hole for road work ect. will not be able to cut the lines and take out service for a lot of people. |
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bender
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clubs: | reply to wifi4milez
what about high latency? is there a form of wireless tech that has a low latency like any wired method (fiber, cable, twisted pair)?? last i knew even 3g had over 150ms latency |
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wifi4milez
Big Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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| said by bender :what about high latency? is there a form of wireless tech that has a low latency like any wired method (fiber, cable, twisted pair)?? last i knew even 3g had over 150ms latency Yes. Both new wireless formats (LTE and Wimax) have latency that is fairly similar to wired connections.
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bender
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clubs: | in that case, bring it on! |
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RadioDoc
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join:2000-05-11 | reply to me1212
Please try to "just put a tower" in the middle of any inhabited area these days and report back on how easy it was. Hint: NIMBYs have taken over. |
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hottboiinnc
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latency can be very low if even today's wireless technologies are used and the network is built right. I'm sure some of the WISPs on this board doesnt have 200+ms in their latency to start off with.
Anyone want to comment on their network's latency if you own a WISP. SuperDog? |
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wifi4milez
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| said by hottboiinnc :latency can be very low if even today's wireless technologies are used and the network is built right. I'm sure some of the WISPs on this board doesnt have 200+ms in their latency to start off with. Be careful now, you are confusing WISP offerings with (wireless) carrier 3G offerings. WISP's can build low latency into their networks, however 3G is inherently laggy as a technology. The new 4G networks were specifically designed to support low latency applications such as VoIP.
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whozzit
join:2003-03-26
Westwood, CA
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My ISP has been wireless since it's inception in around 2000. Prior to that the phone company offered DSL and, via that offering, kept other DSL providers out of the area. Wireless isn't governed by the same rules (no cable) so I signed up for Digitalpath before it was available, as did most other DSL subscibers in the surrounding three counties. We all enjoy wireless, faster-than-DSL service. I don't know what the telco is doing with their DSL these days. |
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Jafo232
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iansltx
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| reply to RadioDoc
Additionally, WiMAX on 10 MHz, under good conditions, has less bandwidth availabl ethan a DOCSIS 1.1 node, as far as I've seen.
Trust me, the only way that wireless is better than wired where you can get wired is if wired screws things up; there's only so much spectrum available and at some point you just can't cram any more bits into a Hertz. |
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iansltx
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EvDO can do probably 70 ms on the last mile. Not great but not bad either. It's just funky routing that adds a good bit t that. I've seen speed tests with 80ms to a given site, Google if I remember correctly. Again, this was on EvDO Rev. A.
s for WiSPs, many of them use 802.11-based systems. These systems tend not to do so well under heavy load (case in point: my WiSP...as it turns out 60+ customers on one radio = EPIC FAIL) however when not loaded you can get better latency than nterleaved dSL and maybe even cable in some cases. |
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hottboiinnc
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| sounds like you don't have a very well built network from your WISP.
And WiFi i wasn't confusing anyone. People should learn to use Cellular Networks when they say that or VZ/ATT/TM/Sprint. and Wireless for Wireless Networks- WISP.
There are also many WISPs that can support VoIP on their network as they deploy QOS and have built a network from the ground up and actually upgrade when needed. |
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