 DarkLogixPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | Never happen Rural areas will never be fully wired (in my lifetime)
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 rfharThe World Sport, Played In Every CountryPremium
join:2001-03-26
Buicktown,Mi | said by DarkLogix:Rural areas will never be fully wired (in my lifetime) Agree and if someone who really is honest would look I'm sure they would find most of rural America is on dial-up.
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| Well, consider two points:
1. They did get wired for phone service at some point.
2. Maybe the whole point of living so remotely is that these people do not want to be connected. I often envy that. |
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While rural America has lower broadband penetration, it is not true most of it is still on dial-up. I live in a town of 300 people and have 2MB cable. People who live within 10 miles of town can also get 500 kb DSL. |
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 BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | reply to verolom
said by verolom:Well, consider two points: 1. They did get wired for phone service at some point. Because the governemnt made a point of making sure that happned.
2. Maybe the whole point of living so remotely is that these people do not want to be connected. I often envy that. the notion that people living in the boonies have no interest in broadband is obtuse. I know plenty of people in the boonies that would LVE to give their money to ANYONE that would provide them with broadband. In fact logic would dictate if you live out in the boonies you want to have access to broadband even more than cityfolk. |
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PDXPLT
join:2003-12-04
Banks, OR | reply to PastTense5
said by PastTense5:People who live within 10 miles of town can also get 500 kb DSL. I guess you don't live in Verizon territory, then. 
Our neighborhood is less than 5 miles from the town center, but outside the Comcast footprint. So Verizon won't bother to provide DSL. |
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join:2000-12-16
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said by BF69:said by verolom:2. Maybe the whole point of living so remotely is that these people do not want to be connected. I often envy that. the notion that people living in the boonies have no interest in broadband is obtuse. I know plenty of people in the boonies that would LVE to give their money to ANYONE that would provide them with broadband. In fact logic would dictate if you live out in the boonies you want to have access to broadband even more than cityfolk. Those folks can already order satellite service or T-1. |
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BF69Premium
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN | said by elray:said by BF69:said by verolom:2. Maybe the whole point of living so remotely is that these people do not want to be connected. I often envy that. the notion that people living in the boonies have no interest in broadband is obtuse. I know plenty of people in the boonies that would LVE to give their money to ANYONE that would provide them with broadband. In fact logic would dictate if you live out in the boonies you want to have access to broadband even more than cityfolk. Those folks can already order satellite service or T-1. satellite is not REAL broadband. I figure that would be a given. T-1? once again expensive. Nowhere near speeds of say my 20 Mbps conenction Charter gives me and no not available everywhere. |
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lesopp
join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL | reply to BF69
Prof. Ted Kaczynski lived in a small cabin somewhere in a Montana forest absent running water or electricity. That was his choice.
So much for your logic edict. |
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 dadkinsCan you do Blu?Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18 | reply to BF69
said by BF69:satellite is not REAL broadband. I figure that would be a given. T-1? once again expensive. Nowhere near speeds of say my 20 Mbps conenction Charter gives me and no not available everywhere. Opposed to a crap 26kbps dialup connection, 768kbps or higher from a sat dish is... what?
Not broadband to whom?
Yeah, you have 20mbps.
If you were in the boonies and had the choice of dialup or sat... what would you say then?
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 Chris 313Come get somePremium
join:2004-07-18
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| said by dadkins:said by BF69:satellite is not REAL broadband. I figure that would be a given. T-1? once again expensive. Nowhere near speeds of say my 20 Mbps conenction Charter gives me and no not available everywhere. Opposed to a crap 26kbps dialup connection, 768kbps or higher from a sat dish is... what? Not broadband to whom? Yeah, you have 20mbps. If you were in the boonies and had the choice of dialup or sat... what would you say then? Yeah, my girl, who had a horrid Dial Up connection last I looked, would consider ANYTHING other then DU internet as broadband and/or an all around better connection. Hell, she told me that she was considering SAT internet once. |
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said by PDXPLT:said by PastTense5:People who live within 10 miles of town can also get 500 kb DSL. I guess you don't live in Verizon territory, then. Our neighborhood is less than 5 miles from the town center, but outside the Comcast footprint. So Verizon won't bother to provide DSL. You have to provide that yourself sorry they don't go extra mile to give service to all of us
Move to a denser area then you will have broadband
move...
These company aren't obligated to wired everywhere including country side where someone live far far out in the middle of no where.
Sorry bud, sell your house and live in apartment if you have to get broadband...if you need it that badly...
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said by dadkins:Opposed to a crap 26kbps dialup connection, 768kbps or higher from a sat dish is... what? Not broadband to whom? Yeah, you have 20mbps. If you were in the boonies and had the choice of dialup or sat... what would you say then? i dont know about anyone else, but i'd move. or create a means of getting broadband. even if i had to do a long distance wireless connection. i hear microwave isn't that expensive. |
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Nuts65
join:2006-04-27
Forest, OH | reply to dadkins
If you need a VPN connection, sat is a no go.
A T-1, maybe. I tried to talk to verizon about it once, and said they couldn't do it do to distance. |
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The same was said of telephones and mail delivery years ago.
Bringing these things to rural areas has provided lots of benefit. I think that in 2009 we should be bringing broadband to rural areas. |
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said by dadkins:Opposed to a crap 26kbps dialup connection, 768kbps or higher from a sat dish is... what? Not broadband to whom? Yeah, you have 20mbps. If you were in the boonies and had the choice of dialup or sat... what would you say then? Speed is not everything.
Satellite connections have very limited capacity. As little as a couple hundred MB can trigger FAP and you're throttled down to nearly zero and have to wait until the next day. So forget about downloading that movie or linux ISO, or even doing a major set of Windows updates on your PC, or even moderate video streaming like hulu.
Then there's the whole latency issue. This is a question of physics, so there's no way around it. This means that online gaming is out of the question. VoIP and most VPNs will also will be unusable.
If you're out in the middle of nowhere, literally, like the middle of the desert, satellite can be an acceptable solution. But if you're within 100 miles of a major city you shouldn't have to suffer with satellite. |
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DarkLogixPremium
join:2008-10-23
Baytown, TX
kudos:3 | reply to fifty nine
Note I said in MY Lifetime
Yes someday but I think that someday is after the year 2100 (so maybe at the edge of my lifetime but same dif) |
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that just means VZ didn't want to do it. And 2 you never order your T1 direct from the ILEC. Always use a CLEC or a reseller. |
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join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN
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said by BF69:said by verolom:Well, consider two points: 1. They did get wired for phone service at some point. Because the governemnt made a point of making sure that happned. 2. Maybe the whole point of living so remotely is that these people do not want to be connected. I often envy that. the notion that people living in the boonies have no interest in broadband is obtuse. I know plenty of people in the boonies that would LVE to give their money to ANYONE that would provide them with broadband. In fact logic would dictate if you live out in the boonies you want to have access to broadband even more than cityfolk. I second that statement.. Just because you live more remote does NOT mean your not interested.. now if you lived in the mountains, in a shack with a long driveway with signs saying F$%# U go away etc... Yeah, maybe not that person.. But man alotta people want/need the faster than dialup speeds.. And satellite doesn't cut it... Heck no! |
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I tried that and admittedly it was 4 years ago. No one but the ILEC would do it and it was $200+ for 128/128 with much higher prices for anything more. |
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