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ex bell

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reply to bryanviper

Re: Locsk On Bell Boxes?

  
Bell doesn't put locks on the box but instructs the sub to. A nut driver will open the sub side whether locked or not. The super secret "Telephone Company Only" side is opened with the same nut driver, or can wrench. 7/16 and 3/8.


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That's interesting.

Mine is different ... it has 2 doors ... a telco one with a security screw and lock hole on it. Opening the telco one opens the customer one. The customer door is opened by a screw-it-up driver, and also is lockable and only opens the telco side.

Ours looks very much like this one ... although the telco bolt head is different and has a separate lock hole for the telco side too.

»www.bell.ca/support/PrsCSrvPns_M···ge?sel=5


carnesr

join:2002-11-16
Sault Ste Marie, ON

the one your describing, was designed for 6 lines, the one shown in this post is for 2, we dont actually use the 2 line ones anymore the newest ones are designed for 3


Savillian

join:2003-11-22
reply to ex bell

said by ex bell :

Bell doesn't put locks on the box but instructs the sub to. A nut driver will open the sub side whether locked or not. The super secret "Telephone Company Only" side is opened with the same nut driver, or can wrench. 7/16 and 3/8.
Gotta love how that first picture the NID isn't even grounded...

carnesr

join:2002-11-16
Sault Ste Marie, ON

said by Savillian See ProfileGotta love how that first picture the NID isn't even grounded...
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guess we should send that guy back lol if i ever did that hear my boss would rip me a new one


ex bell

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reply to Savillian


6 Pair Nid
Re: no ground, probably had to run a new drop and that's all he had on the truck for a splice box.

carnesr

join:2002-11-16
Sault Ste Marie, ON

said by ex bell :

Re: no ground, probably had to run a new drop and that's all he had on the truck for a splice box.
regardless still seposed to be grounded even if just used as splice


ex bell

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I didn't say it was right, just a possible scenario. I see this all the time though. With home dispatch guys sometimes run out of stuff. Whereas back in the day we stocked up at the garage everyday, at least I did.


Savillian

join:2003-11-22

said by ex bell :

I didn't say it was right, just a possible scenario. I see this all the time though. With home dispatch guys sometimes run out of stuff. Whereas back in the day we stocked up at the garage everyday, at least I did.
Would have to agree with you both on that. Hopefully that was the scenario the tech was in, but even so should have grounded as the next guy that goes along and says "Hey I have Bell box outside, I can rip this one in the basement out and run my ISW to it" Happens to often, especially with renos.


ex bell

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And talking of ground wires it used to be drilled into us but I don’t know anymore. I went out on a prove in or out for an existing customer (no charge). I prove out and tell sub to call Bell. Bell comes and says inside and installs demarc (no charge). Happens once in a while so I am used to it. So I go back and the ground wire isn’t hooked up but sitting inches from Nid. So I meter in again just in case, TOK, then plug set into demarc port and let sub listen to static. Tell her to call Bell back and ask the line be repaired and the ground hooked up (I didn’t so the guy would see his mistake). Get a call back, jack not working I installed previously. Return, line fixed and ground not hooked up. He had to have gone in Nid as he disconnected one of the quads. She called back and it took the third guy to hook up the ground wire. I wonder how many others are out there. I check every one now.



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said by carnesr:

regardless still seposed to be grounded even if just used as splice
Oh really!
Is this a code or standard that is to be followed? I ask because I have a Bell installed box on my house being used to splice wires (it doesn't have a test jack either - though BELL INDIA seems to think otherwise).
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2 edits

There is a code its called the Red Book. Proper splice boxes have no ground accomidation.


carnesr

join:2002-11-16
Sault Ste Marie, ON
reply to Thane_Bitter

it is a code that all lines must be grounded, now just because you have a box out side with no test jack in it does not mean your line is not grounded, a lot of homes still have prots in the house, and if we have to work outside and customer not home we use splice box, cause double grounding can also be bad


carnesr

join:2002-11-16
Sault Ste Marie, ON
reply to ex bell

said by ex bell :

I didn't say it was right, just a possible scenario. I see this all the time though. With home dispatch guys sometimes run out of stuff. Whereas back in the day we stocked up at the garage everyday, at least I did.
thats one of the nice things about working in small town like the soo, all the techs actually care, and it only takes a few mins to hit the shop and get something if your out, i park my truck at the garage, so its part of my end of day routine to stock up, i could take truck home but no place to park it

andrewsfm

join:2004-07-16
Toronto
reply to Thane_Bitter

said by Thane_Bitter:

said by carnesr:

regardless still seposed to be grounded even if just used as splice
Oh really!
Is this a code or standard that is to be followed? I ask because I have a Bell installed box on my house being used to splice wires (it doesn't have a test jack either - though BELL INDIA seems to think otherwise).
A ground is only needed if the device contains a test jack, because if you disconnect the inside wire (including the inside grounding device), and plug an extension cord or phone into the test jack, the system is no longer grounded.

carnesr

join:2002-11-16
Sault Ste Marie, ON

given that we are talking about a NID there is a test jack, and old prots dont have test jack but still must be grounded