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Rob2647

join:2008-08-12
Rochester, MI

When the promotion runs out

we'll see how many people ditch digital voice. There are plenty of cheaper VOIP carriers out there. Why bother with comcasts bloaded, traffic shaped network.

rob316

join:2005-10-17
Carteret, NJ

said by Rob2647:

we'll see how many people ditch digital voice. There are plenty of cheaper VOIP carriers out there. Why bother with comcasts bloaded, traffic shaped network.
+1


jsz0
Premium
join:2008-01-23
Jewett City, CT

reply to Rob2647
Comcast has been offering voice service for quite a long time. The vast majority of their customers are not getting any introductory discount at this point -- just bundle package savings.



jester121
Premium
join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL

reply to Rob2647
Traffic shaping is a good thing for VOIP.



dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18

reply to Rob2647

said by Rob2647:

we'll see how many people ditch digital voice. There are plenty of cheaper VOIP carriers out there. Why bother with comcasts bloaded, traffic shaped network.
Traffic shaping or network management does not affect CDV.
Different channel.

CDV is better than any internet-dependent VoIP service.
No QOS needed to work, or cutting into my internet.
HSI and voice are seperate albeit on the same wire.

Power outages are another biggie.
Few people have a UPS connected to their equipment.
CDV has a battery built in and will run for hours.
CDV will do dialup(yeah dialup!). Internet can die and CDV will still work.
CDV will do FAX.
CDV will do alarm systems.
CDV will do 911 and actually tell them where you live.

I've had CDV for quite some time, just recently did I opt for the FREE HD promo - over all, even after the promo is over, my bill will be less that what it was/has been.

--
Think outside the Fox... Opera

DonLibes
Premium,ExMod 2001
join:2003-01-19

Yes, CDV is better but you have to be willing to pay Comcast's premium. I'm not convinced it's worth it. My 3rd party VoIP works just fine, has all the features you mention, and costs $15/month.

Yes, Comcast treats my voice packets with less care than their own but I've not found it to be a problem in the 4 years that I've been using VoIP.



syslock
Premium
join:2007-02-03
Ann Arbor, MI
Reviews:
·Comcast

reply to dadkins
Ok enough garbage...

>CDV has a battery built in and will run for hours.

3-4 hours of talk time if your lucky, 8 hours standby time blah blah.
Will do you No good if the node in your area is not powered by a backup generator. You will not have a phone until the guy with the cable truck plugs the generator into the box on the pole.

>CDV will do dialup(yeah dialup!).
Will not work with a lot of dialup modems etc.
If you get arrested and have to go on a teather, many courts are making people get a pots line because their equipmnt will not work with CDV. God forbid your CDV go out and your machine does not report where you are in time.
A lot of other dial up equipment has a hard time with CDV.

>CDV will do FAX.
Yeah at 9600 baud or slower. More like your sending a fax overseas.

>CDV will do alarm systems.
Alarm companies hate CDV. Your better off switching your alarm over to a cell phone type connection then thru CDV.
Comcast upgrading between 12am-6am, don't think your alarm is going to work when your internet and phone is down when you need it most. Really sucks when you have to use a cell phone or neighbors POTS phone when there is an emergency. Your paying for what for the phone?

>CDV will do 911 and actually tell them where you live.

So does my MagicJack and I save over $400 a year not using Comcast sub standard so called phone service.



pepe3731943

@comcast.net

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ROTFL

Someone's actually comparing garbage Magicjack service to Comcast CDV? Now that's good for a chuckle(!) Isn't that like comparing a Yugo to a Ferrari?

-Pedro



dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18

reply to DonLibes
I have had digital phone service since AT&T days - 17 - 18 years.

Internet was not required for AT&T Digital, CDP and even now with CDV.
I've only had Comcast HSI for 5 1/2 years - been digital for ages.

We can agree on one thing though, SCREW POTS!
--
Think outside the Fox... Opera



dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18

reply to syslock
Magicjack, eh? $19.95 per year, right?

»www.ooma.com/

*NO* fees!

You decide.
--
Think outside the Fox... Opera


travelguy

join:1999-09-03
Santa Fe, NM

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reply to pepe3731943

said by pepe3731943 :

Someone's actually comparing garbage Magicjack service to Comcast CDV? Now that's good for a chuckle(!) Isn't that like comparing a Yugo to a Ferrari?
It's worse. IMO, if you look at the economics of MJ, you quickly realize that it's essentially a big Ponzi scheme. When the number of new subscribers starts tailing off, the business has to collapse.

Rob2647

join:2008-08-12
Rochester, MI
Reviews:
·AT&T U-Verse

reply to dadkins
So in other words, just as useless has a POTS line. People will get tired of wasting money on a digital equivalent of a POTS line seeing that most people have cell phones. It's a tough economy, and a home line will be the first to get cut.

I don't need QoS for my VOIP to work perfectly. I'm not on a lousy cable provider that shapes traffic b/c their network can't handle the load. Their lousy service is one of the main reasons I switched to fiber.


whozzit

join:2003-03-26
Westwood, CA

reply to dadkins
Horse Pucky. Wireless ISP. magicJack and Skype. Forty hours of backup battery. No cable (there isn't any).



dadkins
Can you do Blu?
Premium,MVM
join:2003-09-26
Hercules, CA
kudos:18

reply to Rob2647
Lousy cable?
LOL!
Someone want to tell our friend here what my comcast service is like?

CDV is on a seperate channel so shaping is irrelevent.

No, way better than POTS!
All the perks without all the charges.
Not metered either.
I don't have copper(POTS) connected to this house.
F*** SBC/AT&T!

BTW, I have two cellphones... still like a house phone.
Cells drop sometimes.

YMMV!
--
Think outside the Fox... Opera



xComcastguy

@verizon.net

reply to dadkins

said by dadkins:

said by Rob2647:

we'll see how many people ditch digital voice. There are plenty of cheaper VOIP carriers out there. Why bother with comcasts bloaded, traffic shaped network.
Traffic shaping or network management does not affect CDV.
Different channel.

CDV is better than any internet-dependent VoIP service.
No QOS needed to work, or cutting into my internet.
HSI and voice are seperate albeit on the same wire.

Power outages are another biggie.
Few people have a UPS connected to their equipment.
CDV has a battery built in and will run for hours.
CDV will do dialup(yeah dialup!). Internet can die and CDV will still work.
CDV will do FAX.
CDV will do alarm systems.
CDV will do 911 and actually tell them where you live.

I've had CDV for quite some time, just recently did I opt for the FREE HD promo - over all, even after the promo is over, my bill will be less that what it was/has been.

Wrong.

CDV and HSI are on the same channels. Your HSI takes a back seat to CDV traffic.

Unless something changed since I worked there. I was there for the CDV launch in one of the earliest markets.


LeftOfSanity
People Suck.

join:2005-11-06
Felton, DE

reply to DonLibes

said by DonLibes:

Yes, CDV is better but you have to be willing to pay Comcast's premium. I'm not convinced it's worth it. My 3rd party VoIP works just fine, has all the features you mention, and costs $15/month.

Yes, Comcast treats my voice packets with less care than their own but I've not found it to be a problem in the 4 years that I've been using VoIP.
Exactly sir. I had Vonage for 3 years, with Comcast CHSI, and never had any issues.


MTBikerChris
Premium
join:2001-08-28
Broomfield, CO

reply to rob316
-2


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

reply to dadkins
Sounds like an undertaxed, coax-powered POTS line to me...

Honestly, look at the cell phone companies. They're digital too. Are they still phones?


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2

reply to jester121
If it's done right, yes it is actually. Prioritize VoIP and you've got traffic shaping that is good for VoIP. pretty easy really.


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