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Amorget

join:2009-03-11
Camano Island, WA

Copyright Infridgement threat

My parents got a letter in the mail from Wave saying that they downloaded some copyrighted material and if they don't respond with in 10 days their internet service will be terminated. Anyone ever received any of these letters before? What did you do about it? I would say to tell them to go to hell, but they don't have any DSL options, seems like cable is about the only option for high speed.


drew
Reformation
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join:2002-07-10
Port Orchard, WA
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Did they get any DMCA notices before this? I'd like to see a copy of the letter personally...

Amorget

join:2009-03-11
Camano Island, WA
reply to Amorget
I'll scan it tomorrow. As far as I know, no, they did not.

Amorget

join:2009-03-11
Camano Island, WA

reply to Amorget
Found out that it isn't really Wave, it is Universal. It's a 4 page letter with threats, an Affidavit that they want signed that says it was a mistake, they've been destroyed and they are liable for all damages... but those damages are not specified... what a crock.


matt22

@hctc.com

reply to Amorget
The letter probably isn't for downloading copyrighted material, but for UPLOADING copyrighted material. Are your parents using Bit Torrent? If your parents have no idea what it's about, then might try calling Wave. The letter might also be some kind of scam. Or maybe your parents computer is infected with some kind of virus that is making it act as some kind of illegal server.

Try searching google for "DMCA Notice".

Amorget

join:2009-03-11
Camano Island, WA
I haven't read the letter, but according to what I was told it was for downloading. For legal reasons I won't say what I know about the happenings there. I am going to try and get it and scan it soon.

madcowusa

join:2005-03-09
Port Orchard, WA

reply to Amorget
Interesting and I'd like to see a sanitized scan of that too. They shouldn't sign ANYTHING because it could be an acknowledgment of infringement and possibly open them up to all sorts of legal BS. It comes across as, 'delete the files, sign this and we'll leave you alone', but may be just the opposite. I'd ignore it. Let them terminate cable if need be. Get a competent attorney to advise if things get more serious and not some chump out of the local yellow pages. Giving them any kind of response would let them know their automated copyright infringement system has a 'hit.'

Teach your parents to use SSL Usenet, preferably through a paid anonymizer service accessed over VPN.


matt22

@hctc.com

reply to Amorget
said by Amorget See Profile :

I haven't read the letter, but according to what I was told it was for downloading. For legal reasons I won't say what I know about the happenings there. I am going to try and get it and scan it soon.
I know you can't discuss details, but I've never heard of anyone getting in trouble for downloading copyrighted material. I can only assume your parents (or one of their kids) was using bit torrent, in which case they were not only downloading, but also uploading and distributing copyrighted material. And that's where they get you.
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