http://www.dslreports.com/forum/And-they-are-right-22059342 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:25:41 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:25:41 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22065444 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22065444 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 19:42:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22065262 said by bicker:

The crisis was caused because some financial institutions (specifically) were too large, so when they failed, they represented the chance of too much damage to the overall economy to let the failure progress normally.

LMAO. Where do you get your information. Try understanding the problem before you spout off about that which you clearly have no comprehension of.
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On the topic of Comcast, I think a 35% limit is more mathematically pleasing, but it seems like a good idea for competition. AT&T should have had a lot more conditions on their merger, I think Martin really was playing favorites, but the correct response would be strictness with both sides going forward.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22062303 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 09:01:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22062263 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22062263 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:52:35 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22062185 said by baineschile:

Did anyone intervieneve when Microsoft owen 85% of their marketshare (computer operation systems)?

If Comcast can expand they should...its called capitalism. ATT, Verizon, and the Satellites are formidale foes, and one will always keep the other from becoming a monopoloy.
how do you sue a company that has a monopoly on one product? force them to stop making the one operating system they make?

i love people who always bring microsoft up.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22062185 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 08:22:25 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22062046 said by tubbynet:

there is a reason why the us has passed laws and regulations prohibiting corporations from getting too large (and therefore too powerful); they generally don't have the best interest of the consumer at heart.The country's priorities shouldn't be consumerism. Consumerism doesn't equate to prosperity. So your logic about why large companies should be kept smaller is without merit.

There are valid reasons for such caps, in certain industries, and we've seen it very clearly with the economic crisis. The crisis was caused because some financial institutions (specifically) were too large, so when they failed, they represented the chance of too much damage to the overall economy to let the failure progress normally.

Super-large employers have a similar potential impact on the economy, which argues for capping the size (or breaking-up) companies such as the automakers, super-large nationwide retailers, etc.

The criteria for concern is not the impact on consumers, but rather the impact on citizens. They may be the same people, but the priorities that each of those two labels imply are different. Indeed, our government should foster the interests of citizens FIRST, then perhaps the interests of taxpayers, then perhaps investors, then perhaps consumers. Again, consumerism is part of the problem, not part of the solution.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22062046 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:47:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22062035 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22062035 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 06:41:22 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22061262
Are you implying that Comcast willingly hired someone that said they planned on killing people?

Should Comcast be able to read minds? Does Comcast have a Minority Report machine, and should they have been able to stop these pre-crimes?

Do you not think there are employees of other companies that kill someone everyday in this world? That these people only get employed by Comcast?

Just because the news reports the really bad stories doesn't mean it's something widespread that any company should be treated differently than other companies. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22061262 Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:56:13 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22061219 said by KrK:

You are correct. It wasn't MS's size; it was how MS used their clout. IE Anti-competitively.
wow...impressed myself with that one. i think i was maybe 10 or 11 at the time that the investigation really started (it began in like 1996 with the trial not starting until late 1997, early 1998 if memory still serves correctly).

i don't mind the market working and letting those who are successful grow, but the issue comes into play (much like microsoft, ibm, ma bell, etc) how will comcast use its newfound clout? we have already witnessed their failing service, techs who kill people, animals, and fill houses with sewage, and their customer satisfaction numbers are *consistently* towards the bottom. they also engage in collusion within local governments and practice some sleazy (and borderline deceptive) marketing practices. not only that, they will be controlling the information and media that is seen by a large percentage of the us population. little scary.

there is a reason why the us has passed laws and regulations prohibiting corporations from getting too large (and therefore too powerful); they generally don't have the best interest of the consumer at heart.

q.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22061219 Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:45:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22060833 said by tubbynet:

actually, if memory serves me right (and i was just a young pup back then), wasn't the whole suit brought on by netscape and more of the "browser bundling" rather than just holding a lion's share. it was the _actions_ that ms took that caused the suit, not the size.You are correct. It wasn't MS's size; it was how MS used their clout. IE Anti-competitively.
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]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22060833 Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:25:28 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22060484 said by ThrowDemsOut:

yes the Feds sued MS under monopoly anti-trust laws when they held the huge share of the computer market.
actually, if memory serves me right (and i was just a young pup back then), wasn't the whole suit brought on by netscape and more of the "browser bundling" rather than just holding a lion's share. it was the _actions_ that ms took that caused the suit, not the size.

q.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22060484 Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:17:59 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-And-they-are-right-22059764 said by baineschile:

Did anyone intervieneve when Microsoft owen 85% of their marketshare (computer operation systems)?

If Comcast can expand they should...its called capitalism. ATT, Verizon, and the Satellites are formidale foes, and one will always keep the other from becoming a monopoloy.
I say let them grow. But to answer your 1st statement, yes the Feds sued MS under monopoly anti-trust laws when they held the huge share of the computer market.
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If Comcast can expand they should...its called capitalism. ATT, Verizon, and the Satellites are formidale foes, and one will always keep the other from becoming a monopoloy.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/And-they-are-right-22059342 Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:27:27 EDT