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KrK
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Re: And they are right

said by tubbynet:

actually, if memory serves me right (and i was just a young pup back then), wasn't the whole suit brought on by netscape and more of the "browser bundling" rather than just holding a lion's share. it was the _actions_ that ms took that caused the suit, not the size.
You are correct. It wasn't MS's size; it was how MS used their clout. IE Anti-competitively.
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tubbynet
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said by KrK:

You are correct. It wasn't MS's size; it was how MS used their clout. IE Anti-competitively.
wow...impressed myself with that one. i think i was maybe 10 or 11 at the time that the investigation really started (it began in like 1996 with the trial not starting until late 1997, early 1998 if memory still serves correctly).

i don't mind the market working and letting those who are successful grow, but the issue comes into play (much like microsoft, ibm, ma bell, etc) how will comcast use its newfound clout? we have already witnessed their failing service, techs who kill people, animals, and fill houses with sewage, and their customer satisfaction numbers are *consistently* towards the bottom. they also engage in collusion within local governments and practice some sleazy (and borderline deceptive) marketing practices. not only that, they will be controlling the information and media that is seen by a large percentage of the us population. little scary.

there is a reason why the us has passed laws and regulations prohibiting corporations from getting too large (and therefore too powerful); they generally don't have the best interest of the consumer at heart.

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skuv

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What really do "techs who kill people" have to do with anything?

Are you implying that Comcast willingly hired someone that said they planned on killing people?

Should Comcast be able to read minds? Does Comcast have a Minority Report machine, and should they have been able to stop these pre-crimes?

Do you not think there are employees of other companies that kill someone everyday in this world? That these people only get employed by Comcast?

Just because the news reports the really bad stories doesn't mean it's something widespread that any company should be treated differently than other companies.


bicker

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said by tubbynet:

there is a reason why the us has passed laws and regulations prohibiting corporations from getting too large (and therefore too powerful); they generally don't have the best interest of the consumer at heart.
The country's priorities shouldn't be consumerism. Consumerism doesn't equate to prosperity. So your logic about why large companies should be kept smaller is without merit.

There are valid reasons for such caps, in certain industries, and we've seen it very clearly with the economic crisis. The crisis was caused because some financial institutions (specifically) were too large, so when they failed, they represented the chance of too much damage to the overall economy to let the failure progress normally.

Super-large employers have a similar potential impact on the economy, which argues for capping the size (or breaking-up) companies such as the automakers, super-large nationwide retailers, etc.

The criteria for concern is not the impact on consumers, but rather the impact on citizens. They may be the same people, but the priorities that each of those two labels imply are different. Indeed, our government should foster the interests of citizens FIRST, then perhaps the interests of taxpayers, then perhaps investors, then perhaps consumers. Again, consumerism is part of the problem, not part of the solution.


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said by bicker:

The crisis was caused because some financial institutions (specifically) were too large, so when they failed, they represented the chance of too much damage to the overall economy to let the failure progress normally.

LMAO. Where do you get your information. Try understanding the problem before you spout off about that which you clearly have no comprehension of.
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bicker

join:2007-05-10
Burlington, MA

Get over yourself. You are entitled to your personal opinion.


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