  sailor Merry Whatever ..R.I.P. dadkins Premium join:2003-10-21 Long Island
| reply to Moorecards Re: [NFL] Browns WR Stallworth hits, kills Fla. pedestrian
said by Moorecards :Th part about lying in the road. At first I thought he said he was lying in the road, but after re-reading the article, when the police came, he said "he hit the man lying in the road" not "I hit A man lying in the road". It was his way of telling the police who got hit. That is the way I took as well. He is lying in the road because he got hit by a huge ass Bentley going 50 M.P.H. The body is not going to stay in the same area it got hit 
He says he flashed his lights to warn the guy. To warn the guy what? To hit the ground and hope his Bentley goes over him without making contact! Flashed them to tell the man to go ahead and run across the highway? If he had time to flash his lights then he had that same time to hit the brakes in a attempt to slow his vehicle down before impact. I don't know about anyone else here but when someone flashes their lights to me it means to me..OK to GO. ...unless of course if the vehicle is coming from the opposite direction and flashes their lights to warn approaching motorist of a speed trap.
I have that feeling in my gut that tells me if you take a family who can't bring back a loved one but could use millions of dollars in cash ( his bonus money ) along with a corrupt county ( Dade County ) add to the mix a NFL player and then add some expensive lawyers the end result will be no jail time at all for Mr Stallworth.....Nothing more than a slap on the wrist so he can continue to play a game where many fans will pay big money to see him play.
This country to this day still doesn't take driving after excessive drinking serious enough.....why? to much money involved and money makes the world go around unfortunately...Everyone makes money...politicians from the powerful beverage lobbies, lawyers who defend shit faced drivers, drunk driving schools who make a killing hooking up with states to forgive points on a drivers license and on and on...all while families grieve for years over the loss of a loved one that some shit faced person who thought nothing of getting behind the wheel of their vehicle and driving on public highways after a day or evening of drinking killed...or those millions of individuals who now are living in wheelchairs or are missing a part of their brain or body due to a selfish irresponsible drunk. They are forced to live like that through no fault of their own and yet the drunken fuck that put them in that position pays a fine, losses the right to drive for maybe a year and then is still able to go to their jobs and continue drinking. |
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  capdjq Carpe Diem Premium join:2000-11-01 Vancouver | The fact remains that he was twice the legal limit and a person got killed. -- Hell's waking up every goddamn day and not even knowing why you're here. |
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| reply to sailor said by sailor :He is lying in the road because he got hit by a huge ass Bentley going 50 M.P.H. Are you sure that's a fact? Because a report said the car came to rest a few feet from the pedestrian. A car doing 50 cannot do that. -- goodbye dad |
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| said by fatness :said by sailor :He is lying in the road because he got hit by a huge ass Bentley going 50 M.P.H. Are you sure that's a fact? Because a report said the car came to rest a few feet from the pedestrian. A car doing 50 cannot do that. If the guy WAS laying in the road, then why would he flash his lights at someone laying in the road ? |
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| To be clear, my understanding is that the guy was hit while walking across the road, and the car came to rest a few feet from him. -- goodbye dad |
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It appears Moorecards is probably right about how Stallworth meant his comment-- that he hit that fellow who is currently laying in the road (as if there might be doubt about who was struck), rather than claiming the fellow he struck was laying in the road prior to being struck.
So I take back my comment about Stallworth trying to cover his own ass by saying that. |
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1 edit | reply to sailor I dont care how much money he has. He IS going to jail. Mothers against drunk drivers will make sure of that. What he will be bargaining for is county prison time and not state prison time. In county prison he can spend a lot of his term on work release. State time wont allow for that and would probably result in around a mandatory 5 years or so with eligable for parole after around 3.5 years. HE IS ABOUT TO SPEND A GOOD CHUNK OF HIS LIFE BEHIND BARS. Pulling blood at the scene really put the screws to him and was some dam good police work. |
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| said by rody_44 : I dont care how much money he has. He IS going to jail. Mothers against drunk drivers will make sure of that. What he will be bargaining for is county prison time and not state prison time. In county prison he can spend a lot of his term on work release. State time wont allow for that and would probably result in around a mandatory 5 years or so with eligable for parole after around 3.5 years. HE IS ABOUT TO SPEND A GOOD CHUNK OF HIS LIFE BEHIND BARS. Pulling blood at the scene really put the screws to him and was some dam good police work. It was my understanding that it's a State law in Florida to take blood when there is a death involved. But I agree that's going to be a ass kicker for Stallworth. If he had been able to refuse to blow then it would have been a different case alltogether. |
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| i have a friend that got off on a dui manslaughter charge because they took him to the hospital to take blood. to much time was lost at the scene and they didnt draw the blood until 3 hours and 5 minutes later. after three hours the blood test cant count according to the law. even tho he was 15 he couldnt be charged with that. he pleaded guilty to homicide by motor vehicle and got 18 months. 6 months in and 12 months work release. dui manslaughter here is a minimum 5 year sentence which lands you in state prison and not county. if i remember correctly dui manslaughter was a minimum 5 years with parole after 3.5 years. that 3 hours passes fast when so much is involved with a death involved. |
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  sailor Merry Whatever ..R.I.P. dadkins Premium join:2003-10-21 Long Island | Does your friend still drink and drive? |
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1 edit | reply to sailor Stallworth to plead guilty in DUI case
MIAMI -- Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte' Stallworth has agreed to plead guilty to a DUI manslaughter charge and would do some jail time for a Miami car crash in which a pedestrian was struck and killed, authorities said Monday.
Stallworth, 28, is scheduled to appear Tuesday in a Miami courtroom to enter the plea. If accepted by Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Dennis Murphy, Stallworth would serve a short jail sentence for the March 14 crash, followed by lengthy probation and numerous conditions, Terry Chavez, spokeswoman for the Miami-Dade State Attorney's Office, told The Associated Press.
Miami Beach police said Stallworth was drinking at a bar in the swank Fountainebleu hotel. He left to go to a nearby home -- he owns three properties in the Miami area -- and then headed out in his black 2005 Bentley on MacArthur Causeway, which links the beach to downtown Miami.
Prosecutors say Stallworth hit 59-year-old Mario Reyes, a construction crane operator who was rushing to catch a bus after finishing his shift around 7:15 a.m. Stallworth told police he flashed his lights in an attempt to warn Reyes, who was not in a crosswalk when he was struck.
Chavez said Reyes' family has been pushing hard to resolve the case.
"We have been in intense negotiations for the past couple of days," Chavez said. "We always take the victim's wishes into account."
Stallworth had faced up to 15 years in prison on the DUI manslaughter charge, but the plea deal calls for far less time. Chavez would not provide details on the penalties, nor would Stallworth attorney Christopher Lyons.
"There is a plea agreement and it's going to be presented to the judge," Lyons said.
Stallworth had a blood-alcohol level of .126 after the crash, well above Florida's .08 limit. He had previously pleaded not guilty and Lyons initially pledged to mount a vigorous defense.
But Stallworth has also has cooperated with investigators and issued a statement shortly after the crash expressing sympathy for Reyes' family.
"He's shown remorse and taken responsibility from day one," Chavez said.
Stallworth stopped after the crash and immediately told officers he had hit Reyes. Police estimated Stallworth was driving about 50 mph in a 40 mph zone.
Stallworth signed a seven-year, $35 million contract with the Browns before last season but was injured much of the year. He also has played for New England, Philadelphia and New Orleans.
The National Football League has said it will review the matter for possible disciplinary action after the legal case is completed.
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| reply to sailor said by (Reuters) : Stallworth gets jail sentence in drunk-driving death
MIAMI Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte Stallworth pleaded guilty on Tuesday to manslaughter while driving under the influence of alcohol and was sentenced to 30 days in jail for the car crash that killed a pedestrian on Miami Beach.
The National Football League player's jail term will be followed by two years of house arrest and eight years' probation.
Stallworth might be allowed to play football during that time, if his community control officer and the NFL allow it, because people under house arrest are usually permitted to go to work or school, a spokeswoman for the Miami-Dade County state attorney's office said.
But he will need a lift to the stadium because his driver's license has been suspended for life. "He cannot drive ever again for any reason. That is what the (victim's) family wanted. The family urged us to do this," spokeswoman Terry Chavez said.
A judge also ordered Stallworth to pay $10,000 in fines and perform 1,000 hours of community service.
Why does this sound like a slap on the wrist? In California: A drunk-driving incident that results in death is typically charged as second-degree murder, manslaughter, or vehicular homicide. |
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| Probably some doubts by the prosecution as to whether they'd really get a conviction if it went to court. Not enough doubt to drop the charges, since someone was killed and Stallworth admits he hit the person and was legally DWI. But doubts based on the pedestrian running into the street, not at a crosswalk, etc. That would be my guess. |
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| said by fatness :... But doubts based on the pedestrian running into the street, not at a crosswalk, etc. That would be my guess. Same here. -- "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats." - H. L. Mencken
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| reply to sailor Still he was Drunk Driving. This is pretty much a slap on the wrist. If he was sober I bet he would of not hit the man. If anyone of us normal Joes did this we would be in prison for Life. Total bullshit and once again we see how the system favors the rich. -- Mets, Cowboys, Devils |
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| said by [ user=MuDvAyNe :
]Still he was Drunk Driving. This is pretty much a slap on the wrist. If he was sober I bet he would of not hit the man. If anyone of us normal Joes did this we would be in prison for Life. Total bullshit and once again we see how the system favors the rich. You are 100% correct if he wasn't drunk he probably would not have hit him. A normal person would gotten years for it. -- Caddy |
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  sonofjay Mission Accomplished - Bush May 1, 2003 Premium,MVM join:2001-05-14 North Attleboro, MA | reply to dogma Imagine if a construction worker killed an NFL player. 30 days for vehicular manslaughter. Good stuff. -- Mission Accomplished |
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  Eagles LoveR Dawkins is a true Eagle Premium join:2001-11-29 Trenton, NJ | 30 days? Vick kills dogs and gets 2 years... Stallworth kills a human being while being drunk and gets 30 days |
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  shaner Premium join:2000-10-04 Calgary, AB | Yeah but, he can NEVER drive again!
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