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Re: [NFL] Browns WR Stallworth hits, kills Fla. pedestrian
said by shaner  :Yeah but, he can NEVER drive In Florida again!  fixed
edit: I take that back. Apparently all states are interlinked and if you are suspended/revoked in one state, you can't license shop in another. |
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said by Eagles LoveR :30 days? Vick kills dogs and gets 2 years... Stallworth kills a human being while being drunk and gets 30 days Stallworth probably had more cash than Vick. I would say the family of the guy hit and killed received or will receive a couple of million for them not to request serious prison time...seems the only thing they wanted is that he won't be able to legally drive again so that leads me to believe big money is involved.
The other thing is with Vick it was dogs....a huge emotional button pusher for many people that caused outrage. And rightfully so but the point I am trying to make is society has been so use to so much killing of human beings that it doesn't rattle many anymore.....10 dogs get killed and that is big big news...10 soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan get killed and it hardly makes the papers anymore.
When President Bush went on TV to inform the American people that he had ordered Shock & Awe on Iraq and that American bombs were now being dropped many in American said along the lines like..."Right on man!" ..But if President Bush would have said on TV that he ordered Shock and Awe on every dog in Iraq do to intelligence told him that the dogs of Iraq were carrying WMD's strapped to them many Americans would have responded with..."Like hell you are ! Over my dead body" 
It's an emotionally charged response. ( animals ) and it should be as we as humans need to defend them but I am just trying to make a comparision that to many, the death of a human, even one who died as a result of torture, is greeted by many with a big yawn. |
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said by dogma
edit: I take that back. Apparently all states are interlinked and if you are suspended/revoked in one state, you can't license shop in another. [/BQUOTE :Nick Bollea (Hulk Hogan's kid) was able to get a California driver's license. His Florida license was revoked for 3 years after his accident in 2007, but he was able to get a hardship license here. California only saw he had one, not the restrictions on it and he has full driving privileges in CA. |
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said by MuDvAyNe :Still he was Drunk Driving. This is pretty much a slap on the wrist. If he was sober I bet he would of not hit the man. If anyone of us normal Joes did this we would be in prison for Life. Total bullshit and once again we see how the system favors the rich. I agree. This is simply unbelievable. 30 days? I know peopel that got 30 days for writing bad checks, driving under suspension, possesion of drugs, but killing someone? Give me a fucking break. Money talks. |
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They're blabbing on the bullshit-media that he got a lesser sentence than Vick because he had told the government everything, while Michael Vick had lied about certain things pertaining to his case. That's a laughable excuse. This gov't is a joke. |
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| I think the government agreed to the plea deal because they didn't know if they could prove that Stallworth being drunk caused the accident. His lawyers would have tried to show that, if he was sober, he still would have hit the guy because it was unavoidable. And they may have been able to show that well enough to prevent a conviction.
If the government was sure they could prove their case, they would not have agreed to this deal. |
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| said by fatness :If the government was sure they could prove their case, they would not have agreed to this deal. Sorry, but there is no deal in this deal. The accused didn't lose or bargain away anything for all intents and purposes. He signed a seven-year, $35 million contract with the Cleveland Browns...
...so let's do the math:
$5 Million/Year or
$416,666/Month or
$13,888/Day.
He drives drunk, kills a guy, and he doesn't even have to pay a days salary.
They would have been better off by prosecuting and losing. |
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Stallworth also reached a confidential financial settlement to avoid a potential lawsuit from the family of 59-year-old Mario Reyes, according to Stallworth's attorney, Christopher Lyons. Reyes was struck and killed March 14 by Stallworth, who was driving his black 2005 Bentley after a night drinking at a swanky hotel bar.
A source told ESPN's Kelly Naqi that while the financial terms of the settlement with the family have not been disclosed, Stallworth was covered by two insurance policies: a car insurance policy and a $5 million umbrella policy.
»sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4262751 |
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1 edit | Neither insurance policy should really apply so I'm not sure why that was even mentioned. Insurance policies have outs in their contracts that void payments in the case of illegal activities. Stallworth was still convicted correct? So insurance does not pay. Not sure why the reporter even mentioned it or cared.
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said by Beachie :Nick Bollea (Hulk Hogan's kid) was able to get a California driver's license. His Florida license was revoked for 3 years after his accident in 2007, but he was able to get a hardship license here. California only saw he had one, not the restrictions on it and he has full driving privileges in CA. I stand re-corrected, his "lifelong driving revocation" will last exactly 5 years: »www.flhsmv.gov/ddl/dlfaqson2a.html#4a
Florida sentencing guidelines allow for twelve (12) to thirty (30) years in prison for a DUI/DWI vehicular manslaughter conviction.
It took me awhile, but I found a similar case in 2007 {State v. Conner, 2007}:
said by Florida Appeals Court via--> »www.bikeforums.net/archive/index···928.html :
Conner [a non-wealthy Florida resident] was charged with one count of DUI manslaughter and one count of vehicular homicide as a result of an accident involving his SUV and a bicycle. At trial, there was no dispute that the SUV and the bicycle collided with each other and that the bicyclist was killed as a result of the impact.
Here, the evidence at trial showed that both Conner and the bicyclist, Mr. Conklin, had alcohol in their systems when the accident occurred. While several witnesses saw Mr. Conklin riding in the bicycle lane before the accident, the impact itself apparently occurred in an intersection where the line demarcating the bicycle lane was absent. Conner told several deputies at the scene of the accident that a vehicle pulled in front of him. The majority of Mr. Conklin's injuries were to the left side of his body, and his hat was found in the middle of the road.
Although a jury found Conner guilty of both DUI manslaughter and vehicular homicide, at sentencing the trial judge merged the vehicular homicide charge into the DUI manslaughter conviction. As a result, Conner was adjudicated guilty of only DUI manslaughter, and he was sentenced to fifteen years in prison.
Stallworth plead guilty to the same thing. |
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Like I know 5 million is a lot of money to an average Joe... But Donte Stallworth is no average Joe... he is making millions of dollars playing in the NFL and already did make millions of dollars playing in the NFL... you are telling me the person he killed is only worth 5 mill to you? and I'm sure Donte would have paid more than 5 million dollars cause I guarantee he would rather be free than living the rest of his life behind bars..
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1 edit | The guys family took the cash...just like I suspected....them saying they never want him to drive again was only a statement...as far as how much did they get? My bet is $2.5 Mill
»bleacherreport.com/articles/2003···sentence |
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said by dogma :As a result, Conner was adjudicated guilty of only DUI manslaughter, and he was sentenced to fifteen years in prison.[/buote] Stallworth plead guilty to the same thing. Wow, crazy. The judge never should have accepted the plea, even if the DA was foolish enough to make the deal.
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said by sonofjay :Neither insurance policy should really apply so I'm not sure why that was even mentioned. Insurance policies have outs in their contracts that void payments in the case of illegal activities. Stallworth was still convicted correct? So insurance does not pay. Not sure why the reporter even mentioned it or cared. I think the reporter was just guessing at the source of the money. The money gets paid to the victim's family and I assume it comes from Stallworth. |
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said by sonofjay :Wow, crazy. The judge never should have accepted the plea, even if the DA was foolish enough to make the deal. I still think the only reason for accepting the deal was a potentially-weak case. If it went to trial and he was found not guilty, the victims would have had a harder time getting a financial settlement. |
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said by Eagles LoveR :30 days? Vick kills dogs and gets 2 years... Stallworth kills a human being while being drunk and gets 30 days As much as it kills me to agree with EL, he's fucking right and this is the first thing I thought of as well.
I know I'm a little late on this, but 30 days? You have got to be fucking kidding me...a human is killed by a drunk driver and they get 30 days and some chump ass charges??
There isn't a word strong enough for the amount of bullshit this encompasses. As has been mentioned, you stick one of us in his place, I am pretty sure we're somehow going to have to fight our way out of a life sentence simply for the fact that we'd been drinking, which tends to be a blank check for the prosecution to lay every blame, including the crusification of Christ on you. I've never had a DUI, but my best friend did years ago, and he got 2 years probation, 5000 fine (not counting court costs) and some communbity service. That was for a DUI that he got pulled over for in FRONT of our house...literally 15 steps to the door. Not saying its right, but...wow...
Money will get you out of everything. I hope that family can sleep knowing how much a life costs to them.
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I guess the deal is it's no weaker than the case dogma cited and arguably stronger as the victim was not drinking. »Re: [NFL] Browns WR Stallworth hits, kills Fla. pedestrian
And the victim's family wants should not stand in the way of fair and equal treatment of the law. The DA can prosecute what it wants and the judge does not have to accept any plea agreement that is offered. I was involved in case, as the victim, where the judge not only refused the plea offer, but went on to chastise the prosecutor for offering and agreeing to it and then turn around an imposed double the sentence of the original plea. Convicted was carted off immediately screaming at the judge, prosecute and his lawyer. He had an extensive criminal history.
It just amazes me that someone along the line pull their head of of their ass and see this for what it was, weak case or not.
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| said by sonofjay :I guess the deal is it's no weaker than the case dogma cited and arguably stronger as the victim was not drinking. I don't think we have any idea how weak or strong the case was. Neither the DA's office or the prosecution have talked about evidence. |
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| Indeed you are correct we do not know the strength of the case. But what we do know is that Stallworth just signed a $35 million dollar deal and wanted needed to play and he was going to do just about anything to make that happen. Leverage the DA had no matter how weak the case was. And even if we speculate that it was a weak case, listening to his family and seeing them cry on the stand and a prosecutor pulling up every speeding ticket and traffic violation Stallworth has ever head, together with painting him as a football celebrity playboy who was drinking at an elite club and driving a Bentley while flaunting the law, a jury would not need to be guided to far for a conviction.
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There's probably a lot of reasons why this came out the way it did.
Stallworth payed off the family, so there's no one connected to the case crying for justice.
Stallworth has deep pockets, so he can afford to hire good lawyers to try and push some of the blame on the victim.
Stallworth was cooperative since the very beginning.
The victim was rushing to catch a bus. This could lead to the argument in a trial that he ran out in front of Stallworth's car, and even if Stallworth wasn't drunk, he could not have avoided the accident. I could easily seem some lawyer arguing that.
All these things combined could have persuaded the Prosecutor that he could actually lose in court, prompting him to make the deal.
Having said that, the penalty, in my opinion, seems way too light.
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