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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC
| [Preview] NAizer for CYT
Environment editing. | 
XML editor. | 
Full read/write access to SquashFS file system in installed firmware images. |
A proof of concept, console version of the program was successfully tested in early January on several different CYT platforms and with different firmware versions, so I embarked on the second phase of the project--making it into a user friendly, GUI variant.
It has since grown significantly in scope, becoming a full fledge adapter customization/management tool, with the addition of a built-in XML editor and full read/write access to the SquashFS file system in the installed firmware images.
Following is a summary of main features:
• Flash backup/restore;
• Editing of both fixed and variable boot loader environments;
• Editing of "read only" variables;
• Password entry with hashing support;
• Encryption key editing, both as stored and actual;
• Viewing of changes to actual encryption key as the stored key is being edited, and vice versa;
• Editing of embedded configuration partitions through built-in XML editor;
• Read/write access to SquashFS file system in both installed firmware images;
• Full support for both SquashFS version 1.x and 2.x;
• File drag-and-drop integration with Windows Explorer;
• Expected support for most, if not all currently available CYT devices;
• Tentative support for WRTU54G-TM;
There still remains alot of work to be done before the program will be ready for beta test, but I wanted to provide something of a status update. | |
|  AndrewZ
Premium
join:2003-07-17
somewhere | Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT Great news!
I'm ready to test, have PAP2v2 & VTech ip8100. | |
| mazilo
From Mazilo
Premium
join:2002-05-30
Lilburn, GA | DF05,
Looks good to me. As a matter of fact, the program itself looks very professional. Honestly, perhaps you should consider to sell this program to make little income. After all, you have invested a lot of your time on this project. | |
| | hoolahoous
join:2004-08-25
Red Valley, AZ
| Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT said by mazilo  :perhaps you should consider to sell this program to make little income. coming from mazilo who 'prays' for freebies this is a big compliment..  | |
| | | mazilo
From Mazilo
Premium
join:2002-05-30
Lilburn, GA
| Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT said by hoolahoous :said by mazilo :perhaps you should consider to sell this program to make little income. coming from mazilo who 'prays' for freebies this is a big compliment.. LOL ... You are damn right (the proof is on my signature below)! 
I know DF05, not only a very humble person, but he really works hard to earn his $$$. BTW, didn't I say honestly on my previous post?
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| ilhy
join:2005-11-07
Detroit, MI | When will it be available? | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC
| Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT said by ilhy :When will it be available? When I first mentioned the project a few months ago, I was hoping it would only take another few weeks. As a former manager of mine once remarked, you ask an engineer for a time estimate, then you have to tripple it, and again double it before passing it on to upper management. Truth be told, I don't have the remotest clue how much longer it will take. What I do know, is that there's lots of work left:
• Many features are still buggy, incomplete, or not yet implemented. This is especially true of parts of the SuqashFS file system support, which I decided to add to the project some three weeks ago. It's a rewrite from scratch not based on any open source project. Also, conversion between Linux symlinks and Windows shortcuts is still in the works.
• My current code uses the public domain LZMA library from Igor Pavlov's latest 7Zip SDK. However, I'm currently rewriting all LZMA code from scratch--in assembly language. This will take a while.
• There are lots of user interface details that need work--the tedious, boring kind of work I usually end up deferring until later, but eventually have to get done.
• I haven't even started looking into how to do the online help. Can't release the program, not even for beta test, without at least some form of online/context help.
• Although not relevant to the free limited beta test, there are lots of issues to be worked out as to how the program's to be marketed eventually, if at all.
Bottom line, I can't give a meaningful ETA yet. | |
| Hard_Drive
join:2008-10-04
Muskegon, MI
| This is great news, I have a couple of devices that I managed to unlock but not convert to true -NA devices, so it's possible, though not highly likely, they could go back to being locked to a provider. I'm just curious, though, will your program be able to recover devices if someone attempted to unlock them and botched it? I almost did that on one of the devices, but realized what I'd done wrong before it was too late.
Eventually what would be really great is if there were a way to modify the actual firmware to add capabilities not included by the manufacturer, such as some form of secure tunneling to an Asterisk server using something like an SSH or OpenVPN connection. But that's just a thought for future development - for now I'll be happy to see a working beta of your software as you've shown it here! | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC
1 edit | Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT said by Hard_Drive :I'm just curious, though, will your program be able to recover devices if someone attempted to unlock them and botched it? The program depends on the device being able to boot and run normally. If someone has screwed it up such that it won't boot, well, then depending on the severity (whether the boot loader runs or not), it will likely be necessary to turn to either a serial interface or J-TAG to recover it. However, so long as the Linux installation and the web interface run normally, the program will provide full access to anything in the adapter's flash memory.
Eventually what would be really great is if there were a way to modify the actual firmware to add capabilities not included by the manufacturer, such as some form of secure tunneling to an Asterisk server using something like an SSH or OpenVPN connection. But that's just a thought for future development - for now I'll be happy to see a working beta of your software as you've shown it here!
That's what the SquashFS file system support is for. You'll be able to modify, replace, add anything to the firmware's SquashFS file system at your heart's content. If you want a different busybox with more features, just drag and drop a replacement over the current one. You want to modify the startup scripts? Just edit them with the built-in editor. Then commit the updates to flash. NAizer™ will rebuild the firmware image's file system and flash it for you. | |
| | | toro
join:2006-01-27
Scarborough, ON
 ·TekSavvy Solutions..
| Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT said by DogFace05 :NAizer(tm) will rebuild ... Just curious, did you really register a TradeMark for your NAizer ?
Anyways, the project looks great so far ! | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC
1 edit | Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT There are two forms of trademarking. One is a registered trademark, which is obtained by formally registering the trademark with the appropriate trademarking authority of your country, and paying any required fees, and entitles the owner to bear the encircled R mark, as in for example FrigginGadget®.
The other is the so-called poor-man's trade mark, which the trademark claimant simply claims by publicly using the mark with an appended raised ™, as in NAizer™, and doesn't cost a penny, nor requires any form of formal registration. The claimant does have a year to actually start marketing and selling the product for which the trademark is claimed, from the time it's first claimed, or the trademark becomes null and void.
The former trademark type does provide stronger legal protection, though, as its validity can more easily be verified and established, should it ever be challenged in court.
You can read more about it at the US Patent and Trademark office's web site. I'm not sure which the proper authority is in Canada, but trademarking rules are generally consistent throughout most western countries and elsewhere, through international trade agreements.
In the post you quoted, I thus made a public claim to the trademark. However, I did make a mistake, though, as writing tm in parentheses isn't the correct way of doing it--it has to actually be a raised TM appended to the claimed name. I have since corrected it, and again lay claim to NAizer™ as my trademark for any software and/or hardware product that permamently alters and/or removes the customization of any provider customized ATA or other embedded device.
I am actually the one who came up with and coined the verb to NAize (NAizing, etc) (in behind the scenes communications with various members of this forum, as well as posts here at DSLR), but it isn't something I believe or feel I could trademark, as it's now become so widely used (at least at this site). However, the specific noun NAizer, very much is something that I can trademark under the trademark rules, provided of course that noone else already has laid claim to it for a similar product. | |
| | | | | Dan_voip
join:2007-01-03
Canada | Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT Good news! I'm looking forward to test the NAizer on Dlink VTA if that will be covered. | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC | Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT Indeed, I do expect it to support the D-Link VTA. | |
| hoolahoous
join:2004-08-25
Red Valley, AZ
| said by DogFace05 : • Tentative support for WRTU54G-TM; i am holding my breath starting now.. | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC
| Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT said by hoolahoous :said by DogFace05 : • Tentative support for WRTU54G-TM; i am holding my breath starting now.. I hope you have an oxygen tank handy. | |
| HelloG
join:2007-11-27
Manchester, NH | DogFace05:
The list of features sounds great, nice work! Looking forward to the beta - count me in for testing. I've got a few ATAs lying around that I can use for testing. | |
| ogdensburg
join:2006-12-12
Ogdensburg, NY | I want to be a tester too. Have a few VTECH IP8100 and D-Link VTA sitting in my basement right now. | |
| FastAtLast
300 baud and beyond
join:2004-04-07
Rotonda West, FL | I have a VT2442 and am available for testing, if needed. | |
| qingz
join:2003-10-20
Canada | That's great news. I have a few of Vtech 8100 laying around. I like to be a tester, and willing to donate one or two Vtech 8100 for the project. | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC
| Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT said by qingz :I like to be a tester, and willing to donate one or two Vtech 8100 for the project. Thanks for your very generous offer. It's very much appreciated. I don't expect to need any, but should the need arise, I'll let you know. Again, thanks. | |
| 
UHF
All static, all day, Forever
Premium,MVM
join:2002-05-24
clubs: | I have a Dlink ATA that needs unlocked. I'd love to give this a spin when it's ready. | |
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burris
Premium
join:2000-08-22
Miami, FL | I still have the Innomedia from SR days.
I got it unlocked, but have no need for it and would be glad to donate it to the cause, if you need it.. | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC
| Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT said by burris :I still have the Innomedia from SR days. I got it unlocked, but have no need for it and would be glad to donate it to the cause, if you need it.. Thanks for your very generous offer, too. It's also very much appreciated. I've never seen an Innomedia, but to, the best of my knowledge, I believe it not to be a CYT device, or even Linux/MIPS based, so it would not be applicable to this particular project. I could be wrong, though, so if anyone knows better, feel free to correct me. Nevertheless, thanks alot for your kind consideration. | |
| B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28
| Okay, for those who, like me, were ignorant of what the heck "CYT" meant:
»www.bargainshare.com/index.php?s···threaded
Device Unlock FAQ:
1) Which adapters are CYT Devices?
CYT devices are VoIP adapters that use the TI AR7 chipset.
Here are a few of the CYT adapters:
- Linksys WRTP54G - 2 phone ports, 4 port router, wireless
- Linksys RTP300 - 2 phone ports, 4 port router
- Linksys RTP200
- Linksys PAP2 v2.0 - 2 phone ports
- Vtech IP8100 - Cordless SIP phone with base
- Motorola VT2442 - 2 phone ports, 4 port router
- D-Link VTA-VR - 2 phone ports
- Linksys WAG54GP2 - 2 phone ports, DSL router
That was in 2006. So that leads to two questions:
1. What other models qualify? PAP2T-NA? Innomedia? Grandstream?
2. How does this program differ from, complement, or compete with the OP's private unlocking services?
-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC
| Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT said by B :Okay, for those who, like me, were ignorant of what the heck "CYT" meant: CYT is short for CyberTAN Inc, the company apparently behind the Web interface in the devices in your quoted list. That list is pretty much it, except I've never heard of an RTP200 (not that it doesn't exist, though; I'm just not aware of it). CYT has become the defacto classifying term for any ATA based on TI's AR7 chipset (based on a MIPS R4K processor), running Linux.
1. What other models qualify? PAP2T-NA? Innomedia? Grandstream? Besides the CYT models in the list quoted, I may also support a few other Linux/MIPS based devices, including the WRTP54G-ST (a version of the WRTP54G made for Sprint), WRT54G-TM and WRTU54G-TM. The PAP2T is not a CYT device, does not run Linux, and is not based on a MIPS processor. It will not be supported by this project. I'm not familiar with the architecture of the Innomedias and Grandstreams, but to the best of my knowledge, they are not Linux/MIPS devices either, so no support there.
2. How does this program differ from, complement, or compete with the OP's private unlocking services? I don't and never have offered unlocking of CYT devices. People have often asked for it, but I've always turned away all such requests. I do not offer solutions not 100% developed by me. NAizer™ for CYT will be my first entry into the CYT arena, and for the time being is planned as a standalone program--not a service. | |
| | | B
Premium,MVM
join:2000-10-28 | Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT Thanks for the reply! I thought for sure the PAP2 listed would have overlapped with your service, but I guess not...
-- B
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In a realm outside causality and function | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC
| Thanks to all who have offered to guinea-pig their adapters and participate in the planned beta test. I will make an announcement here, when the time comes. At least at an initial phase, I'm going to limit participation to those who have, or have access to, a J-TAG device with which to recover their adapters, should my program for any reason malfunction and render their adapter unbootable.
Although I believe to have already ironed out any such potential issues, it's never wise to challenge the good will of good ole' uncle Murphy. I do not want to risk permanently damaging anyone's equipment. Once I'm satisfied about the program's reliability, I'll add a few more general participants. | |
| | HelloG
join:2007-11-27
Manchester, NH
| Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT said by DogFace05 :...At least at an initial phase, I'm going to limit participation to those who have, or have access to, a J-TAG device with which to recover their adapters, should my program for any reason malfunction and render their adapter unbootable. I'm putting together a serial cable at the moment to mess around with these ATAs. I see that JTAG is an alternative to using serial cables, and it can probably do more in terms of debugging the device. Is a serial cable enough to bring a device back from the dead? Maybe the answer is device dependent? | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC
| Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT Not fully. A serial cable still depends on the boot code of the device being ok. If only the firmware images are corrupt, but not the boot code, you can recover the device by way of the serial cable. However, if the boot code is bad, there's no recourse other than using JTAG or physically removing, reprogramming, and reinstalling the flash chip. | |
| | | | toro
join:2006-01-27
Scarborough, ON | Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT Also, if the boot code is good but doesn't have the console_state set to "unlocked", the serial cable is pretty useless.
If I remember correctly, only the D-Link VTA comes with the console unlocked from the factory. | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC | Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT Good point. | |
| hzlawh
join:2008-09-21
| I have some CYT device in my hand been bricked for some month already and if i can have chance to test your program will be very nice and great. maybe i can lucky enough to find back my devices i have Motorola vt 2442 2142 and RT31P2 CFE is ok but i dont have any experence with Jtag or TTL so your software is an good tools for me.
Could you please consider me as an trial test user to arrnage for test purpose. my mail: vip19@yahoo.cn | |
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fastone
@swbell.net | I am extremely anxious to test and do with magicjack and rtp300. | |
| squish102
join:2001-08-07
Matthews, NC | Looking forward to testing out this software too. Thanks for your efforts. | |
| GrauerFuchs
join:2008-01-05 | Best of luck in this! It looks very promising so far, and I look forward to the opportunity to see it in action. When the time rolls around, you can count me in on the list of those ready to test and provide results. | |
| blindrage
join:2009-02-08
Seattle, WA | Wow! Looks very slick. I've got a locked ip8100, and have witnessed your prowess with my PAP2V1, so sign me up to test this one! | |
| qingz
join:2003-10-20
Canada | Any news? | |
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DogFace05
join:2005-12-09
Cary, NC | Re: [Preview] NAizer for CYT Still working on it. | |
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shutrbug
join:2000-10-18
San Jose, CA | Hi, is there any update on this? | |
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