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baineschile
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join:2008-05-10
Sterling Heights, MI
Yet more evidence...

That servicing country/rural areas is not profitable for broadband and TV. Too much wiring, for too few consumers.

hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable

I wouldn't count all of their areas country or rural by far. St. Louis by far is not country or even rural. Charter got too big too fast and the only way they are the size they are is by picking up areas from other companies they didn't want.

But yet TWC services LOTS of rural areas in Ohio and i don't see them having any problems. Charter just has issues with spending too much money and not making anything.


nordoI

@chartermi.net

said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

Charter just has issues with spending too much money and not making anything.
Charter makes over 1 BILLION a year. The issue is the debt load, which Chapter 11 is helping them with. They make plenty of money.


NetAdmin
CCNA

join:2008-05-22

reply to baineschile
It is proof that a company saddled with mountains of debt, poor management and poor customer service is a company that isn't long for this world. That was the problem that Charter has. It has nothing to due with them serving rural areas because they service some lucrative suburban/rural areas that, if they had decent management, would make them a very profitable company.
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"This is a bus. You know how big a bus is?"


morbo
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·Charter Pipeline
·AT&T Southwest

reply to nordoI
said by nordoI :

Charter makes over 1 BILLION a year. The issue is the debt load, which Chapter 11 is helping them with. They make plenty of money.
if they are making plenty of money then they would be able to service their debt. hottboiinnc is right: they got too big, too fast. buying too many cable plants for too much money.

of course, bankruptcy will help them!

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
reply to baineschile
1. One word: wireless. 2. just put internet then, or DSL may cost less. If done correctly rural areas can be profitable if they were not there would be no WISPs.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
very true!.

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
·VOIPo

Yup, you only have so much wire, but repeaters can be used(to an extent) to boost the ranger of wireless. It makes it easier to serve rural areas, it can put out the same speeds as DSL and cable verizon is even working on(or so I hear) 60m wireless. With a 5gb cap you can not do much, but when they get it out they most likely will up the cap.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
VZ maybe working on it but ATT already has Wireless in AK. it makes more sense.


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to baineschile
said by baineschile See Profile :

That servicing country/rural areas is not profitable for broadband and TV. Too much wiring, for too few consumers.
That's not why Charter is $20 billion in debt. Try getting some facts first.

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
reply to hottboiinnc
What kinda speed?


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to me1212
said by me1212 See Profile :

Yup, you only have so much wire, but repeaters can be used(to an extent) to boost the ranger of wireless. It makes it easier to serve rural areas, it can put out the same speeds as DSL and cable verizon is even working on(or so I hear) 60m wireless. With a 5gb cap you can not do much, but when they get it out they most likely will up the cap.
yeah to what 10 GB maybe 15 GB? Cap or not cap, how do you justify Verzion charging $256 per GB overage?

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
reply to me1212
»www.attalascom.com/home/internet···eed.html

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
Thank you hottboiinnc.

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
reply to BF69
I cannot justify the $256(I too say "WTF?".) A 100gb-250gb or even no cap look more likely, looking at their other internet services(DSL/FiOS). Anyway I know how to get verizon with no cap now, and I plan too in a few months. Mobile+no cap= win.


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

said by me1212 See Profile :

I cannot justify the $256(I too say "WTF?".) A 100gb-250gb or even no cap look more likely, looking at their other internet services(DSL/FiOS). Anyway I know how to get verizon with no cap now, and I plan too in a few months. Mobile+no cap= win.
don't expect that no cap to last too long. Once again I stated actual verizon service not a reseller. In my area you can only get verizon for 3G, that's it. And sorry there is no "cap free" option.

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO
Ok yeah the reseller is the only way for the no cap, but if they can resell the 60m well I would like that. If you can get sprint you can use it. Yes they will take sprint if you can't ger verizon.

hottboiinnc
ME

join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
·Time Warner Cable
·buckeye cable

reply to BF69
if you use a reseller of the EVDO service via VZ there is NO cap at all. That has been talked and talked about on here before.

Also a reseller of VZW service offers Unlimited national calling over the VZW wireless voice network for $85 month to month- a lot less than what VZW charges.

MOTO6809

join:2007-11-05
Springfield, MA

reply to morbo
You are right, they paid too much for the systems they bought. That along with the shady upper management team they had really killed them.

I think Neil and the current team can turn it around, but they have a lot of work ahead of them to do so.


BF69

join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN

reply to hottboiinnc
said by hottboiinnc See Profile :

if you use a reseller of the EVDO service via VZ there is NO cap at all. That has been talked and talked about on here before.

Also a reseller of VZW service offers Unlimited national calling over the VZW wireless voice network for $85 month to month- a lot less than what VZW charges.
which part of "that does not exist in my area" is hard to comprehend?
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