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TraunaJ

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reply to hamburglar_

Re: Hope Virgin Media isn't blowing smoke

said by hamburglar_:

I'd be upset if I were one of the people you were temporarily disconnecting to find him. Did they get some type of credit for the outage?
Are you serious? Walk up to the box, unscrew the connector, call, no change, screw it back in, done. What did that take...45-60 sec.?

OK, let's say you get your adjustment and you are paying $150 per month for everything you have - $150/30days=$5 per day/1440 the # of minutes in a day=.003 cents. OK, you can have a penny. Sheesh!


hamburglar_

join:2002-04-29
united state
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·VOIPo

This must have been well coordinated with 20 techs all unplugging stuff at the same time. And yes, with my phone service now relying on cable, I would expect at least a knock on the door to let me know what was going on. Maybe not an adjustment, but some communication.


hottboiinnc
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join:2003-10-15
Cleveland, OH
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·WOW Internet and..

you can't knock on the door and say you're going to work on the cable if you're trying to find someone stealing cable/internet services.

if you need that much up time you need to move back to POTS. OH wait! they'd disconnect you too without telling you if they needed to.


fiberguy
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reply to hamburglar_
Don't have to tell you a single thing. MANY areas have a provision that you can most certainly take the service down before prime time (usually 5pm) with NO notice and with out an emergency requiring the down time. Further, you're not entitled to an outage credit until you reach a certain amount of time, usually 4 hours.

I really doubt that 60 seconds qualifies the end of the world and a credit for you. Also, don't you think you're being a little dramatic here? Cell phone calls drop all the time. So if you dropped a land line call, in terms of credit amount, you'd be talking about $0.20 for your time. However, that's just an example of what you'd get from a cell phone provider, if any. If your phone service is 3rd party VoIP over your cable.. your SOL..

Expectations and reality are two different things,.. there's NO way in the world you'd get a knock on the door when they're trying to find someone stealing service which would be, so you know, AFFECTING YOUR SERVICE including your telephone service.

Besides, who's to say that you could be the one they're looking for.. still think they need to knock on the door?

Little less dramatics next time.



jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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·voip.ms

said by fiberguy:

Don't have to tell you a single thing. MANY areas have a provision that you can most certainly take the service down before prime time (usually 5pm) with NO notice and with out an emergency requiring the down time. Further, you're not entitled to an outage credit until you reach a certain amount of time, usually 4 hours.
Speaking of dramatics, where did you get all this hooey? Sounds more like the SLA from a business circuit or something, kind of, sort of.


digifalls

@synergy.gs

reply to hamburglar_
R U SERIOUS

a knock on the door. excuse me sir.maam We are going to disconnect your cable for a minute or so.

Now if i was that house hold and I had something illegal connected to the cable. I would disconnect it.


fiberguy
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reply to jester121

said by jester121:

said by fiberguy:

Don't have to tell you a single thing. MANY areas have a provision that you can most certainly take the service down before prime time (usually 5pm) with NO notice and with out an emergency requiring the down time. Further, you're not entitled to an outage credit until you reach a certain amount of time, usually 4 hours.
Speaking of dramatics, where did you get all this hooey? Sounds more like the SLA from a business circuit or something, kind of, sort of.
Hooey? It's called experience and the law.. where do you get YOUR information?

Posting what you did only embarrass yourself becuase I'm 100% correct in what I said. Having worked in, and experience with, regulatory compliance in this matter, I think that qualifies me to know all of this "hooey" that you mock.


jester121
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Lake Zurich, IL
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·voip.ms

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said by fiberguy:

Hooey? It's called experience and the law.. where do you get YOUR information?

Posting what you did only embarrass yourself becuase I'm 100% correct in what I said. Having worked in, and experience with, regulatory compliance in this matter, I think that qualifies me to know all of this "hooey" that you mock.
Regulatory compliance for residential internet service? The same service that most providers still expressly limit to "for entertainment purposes" in their terms of service?

Please, do tell.

EDIT - pesky typo

fiberguy
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Look, I'm not going to sit here and argue with someone that obviously has no experience in this matter especially after being told already.

But, you're obviously someone that only sees cable lines as "internet" based on your last post. However, the "line" itself, in which *I* was talking about in my post that you responded to IS regulated by franchise authorities. And, having worked in more franchises that you've probably subscribed, and working with the FA directly in compliance, I will be more than happy to, one last time, tell you that there is in fact rules on how you can and can not take down a customer's service based on emergency or non-emergency reasons.

Further, TV is "entertainment" and it, as I stated above, IS regulated and controlled to some degree by the franchise.

I am tempted to end this with an invite to explain how you can physically down down internet with out affecting the video or other services, but really, I have no time to argue with you or invite back further nonsense.

I've stated my credentials.. you're just shooting in the wind as far as I can see. But, you're more than welcome to think what EVER you want if it makes you happy.



jester121
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join:2003-08-09
Lake Zurich, IL
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·voip.ms

I don't care to argue with you either (especially since your "qualifications" consist thus far of knowing what a franchise authority is and claiming to know they work, at least in theory). Nor am I interested in an over-simplified condescending lecture on ... well really, on anything you claim to be an expert on. Which apparently is pretty much everything.

I'm also up to speed on the differences between television and cable internet service, as well as how they interoperate, thanks very much (it isn't rocket science and no, you aren't really that mysterious or even special because you know too).

On that happy note, enjoy your weekend everyone!



81399672
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join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
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reply to TraunaJ

said by TraunaJ :

said by hamburglar_:

I'd be upset if I were one of the people you were temporarily disconnecting to find him. Did they get some type of credit for the outage?
Are you serious? Walk up to the box, unscrew the connector, call, no change, screw it back in, done. What did that take...45-60 sec.?

OK, let's say you get your adjustment and you are paying $150 per month for everything you have - $150/30days=$5 per day/1440 the # of minutes in a day=.003 cents. OK, you can have a penny. Sheesh!
Trespassing on private property without permission. Instant lawsuit

WallaceWiFi
Premium
join:2008-11-13
Thorp, WI

reply to fiberguy
I'm with fiberguy on this one. The cable/DSL/FIBER companies cover their own ass first and foremost. They don't have to tell you sh!t. If they are a decent company they will, or at least let you know what the disconnect was for after the fact.
But they don't want legal troubles just because they fealt like disconnecting (or a act of God) (or an act of dumb man)
:P

peace,
out.


ErikRP

join:2004-11-06
Winnipeg, MB
Reviews:
·Shaw

reply to 81399672

said by 81399672:

said by TraunaJ :

said by hamburglar_:

I'd be upset if I were one of the people you were temporarily disconnecting to find him. Did they get some type of credit for the outage?
Are you serious? Walk up to the box, unscrew the connector, call, no change, screw it back in, done. What did that take...45-60 sec.?

OK, let's say you get your adjustment and you are paying $150 per month for everything you have - $150/30days=$5 per day/1440 the # of minutes in a day=.003 cents. OK, you can have a penny. Sheesh!
Trespassing on private property without permission. Instant lawsuit
Huh? Who trespassed? They're disconnecting each subscriber's cable from the cable box on the road or wherever it's located, which is public property or otherwise legally accessible by the cable company. They're not going up to each house and disconnecting the cable.

fiberguy
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reply to jester121
While you sit here and try to tell someone that has over 15 years experience.. what qualifies you? Unless you care to divulge that, you're blowing hot air and trolling. If you don't know my qualifications, by now, then you're obvious blind and don't read much here... especially when it really is no one business but people work over time to make a point of it.. get it?!

Enough said.



Nerdtalker
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join:2003-02-18
Tucson, AZ

reply to digifalls
Exactly, I was waiting for this explanation, as it's the one that counts.

Good job digifalls, excellent story. This is always how I've envisioned it going down.

Now, if the user had hacked his modem to a tier of service that was closer to (or exactly the same speeds) as one of the provisioned tiers, it'd be significantly more difficult to notice him in the first place, wouldn't it?
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DonLibes
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join:2003-01-19

reply to jester121

said by jester121:

said by fiberguy:

Hooey? It's called experience and the law.. where do you get YOUR information?

Posting what you did only embarrass yourself becuase I'm 100% correct in what I said. Having worked in, and experience with, regulatory compliance in this matter, I think that qualifies me to know all of this "hooey" that you mock.
Regulatory compliance for residential internet service? The same service that most providers still expressly limit to "for entertainment purposes" in their terms of service?

Please, do tell.
As far as I know, my community (MCMD) has the strongest cable laws in the US in the area you're discussing. Planned interruptions of 5 minutes or longer may require notification depending upon reason and time of day. Planned interruptions less than 5 minutes never require notification.

See page 10 (numbered as page 8) section d. in the following document:

»www.montgomerycountymd.gov/conte···creg.pdf

I'd be interested if anyone knows of a community with even stricter regulations.


slow ftp

@optonline.net

reply to 81399672
Read the back of your receipt from the install it will talk about easement rights to go on your property to work on company owned equipment.



81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:2

said by slow ftp :

Read the back of your receipt from the install it will talk about easement rights to go on your property to work on company owned equipment.
I am sure the tech can tell me about the easement all he wants after the bullets start flying because someone is trespassing on my property.


BlahBlahBlahBlah

@charter.com

said by 81399672:

I am sure the tech can tell me about the easement all he wants after the bullets start flying because someone is trespassing on my property.
and the cops will tell you all you want about attempted MURDER when they slam your ass into jail.


81399672
Premium
join:2006-05-17
Los Angeles, CA
kudos:2

said by BlahBlahBlahBlah :

said by 81399672:

I am sure the tech can tell me about the easement all he wants after the bullets start flying because someone is trespassing on my property.
and the cops will tell you all you want about attempted MURDER when they slam your ass into jail.
Not if this happens in Texas, Arizona and some other states.

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