caseydoug
join:2001-08-14
Seattle, WA
| reply to wifi4milez
Re: Connecting to Google Voice Via SIP
At least we cleared up the mystery of whether GV has once again begun to alllow inbound SIP connections.
There is little standardization in the way call destinations are formatted. It takes a lot of trial and error, a lot of combinations and permutations, before you can conclude that GV is really not allowing these connections. |
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dyrewolfe
join:2009-08-02
Durham, NC | reply to wifi4milez
callwithus behaved exactly the same way (everything but the GV # was stripped away) even with "sip:" added. sipgate threw back an error "unknown domain" and setting up a dial string in sipsorcery resulted in a timeout. |
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wifi4milez
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Using a dummy IP address still results in a connected call, so it must be discarding the @ipadress portion, and it also seems to not care that the string begins with "sip:". Very odd, especially how using "sip:" passes the call directly through the GV system (instead of terminating in the GV voicemail). |
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caseydoug
join:2001-08-14
Seattle, WA
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I suspect it is some sort of odd manipulation that both Sipgate and VoicePulse are doing with the string. You were also going to try calling your number at a dummy SIP address. That might show whether it strips out the number of an address that won't otherwise connect. |
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wifi4milez
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Ok, this gets even stranger. I tried doing (gvnumber)@googleip and the call went through as before. Dialing via this method yields my GV voicemail if I dont answer the call. Upon checking the logs however, it shows that I connected to just (gvnumber) not a SIP address. I then decided to try the method by attaching the prefix "sip:" to (gvnumber)@googleIP and dialed away again. This time it also rang, however instead of being picked up by my GV voicemail the vm of my cellphone (part of the ring group) picked up the call. A check of the GV call logs shows a missed call from my Voicepulse account, but not a SIP call (I doubt if its even setup to display SIP calls). Finally, I tried it using Sipgate but also including the "sip:" prefix. My cellphone rang, but when I didnt answer it also skipped the GV voicemail and went directly to my cellphones vm box. A quick check of the Sipgate logs shows that even with the "sip:" prefix, the call is recorded simply as a regular number.
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caseydoug
join:2001-08-14
Seattle, WA
| reply to wifi4milez
Another way to tell might be to look at your ATA logs. I'll be interested to see what you come up with.
It's purely academic at this point since, for me, the Sip Sorcery app does pretty much everything I was trying to do through a GV SIP connection. |
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wifi4milez
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said by caseydoug  :said by wifi4milez :I will check this evening. I can also try testing this by entering in (myGVnumber)@bogusIPaddress and see if it still completes the call. If it does, then we know its just grabbing the digits and completing it via the PSTN. I just created some outbound forwarding rules (speed dials) on my VOIPo line, with destinations as follows: myGVnumber@216.239.37.15:5061 and sip:myGVnumber@216.239.37.15:5061 The first one worked, i.e., got to my GV voicemail, whereas the second one timed out. Call logs showed the outbound speed dial numbers, so there was no way to tell whether the first one was a SIP call. The only indication is that the speed dial entry itself shows only a number for the first one, but a SIP address for the second. Clearly, VOIPo is just grabbing the number on the first speed dial. I will test it out in about an hour and report back.
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caseydoug
join:2001-08-14
Seattle, WA
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said by wifi4milez :I will check this evening. I can also try testing this by entering in (myGVnumber)@bogusIPaddress and see if it still completes the call. If it does, then we know its just grabbing the digits and completing it via the PSTN. I just created some outbound forwarding rules (speed dials) on my VOIPo line, with destinations as follows:
myGVnumber@216.239.37.15:5061
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sip:myGVnumber@216.239.37.15:5061
The first one worked, i.e., got to my GV voicemail, whereas the second one timed out. Call logs showed the outbound speed dial numbers, so there was no way to tell whether the first one was a SIP call. The only indication is that the speed dial entry itself shows only a number for the first one, but a SIP address for the second. Clearly, VOIPo is just grabbing the number on the first speed dial. |
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wifi4milez
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said by caseydoug :said by wifi4milez :I do not think the provider is just using the SIP URI and passing it through, however I am not sure how to verify that. What do the Sipgate and Voicepulse call logs say? Does the destination number display as your GV SIP URI? I will check this evening. I can also try testing this by entering in (myGVnumber)@bogusIPaddress and see if it still completes the call. If it does, then we know its just grabbing the digits and completing it via the PSTN.
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caseydoug
join:2001-08-14
Seattle, WA
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said by wifi4milez :I do not think the provider is just using the SIP URI and passing it through, however I am not sure how to verify that. What do the Sipgate and Voicepulse call logs say? Does the destination number display as your GV SIP URI? |
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wifi4milez
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said by caseydoug :said by wifi4milez :Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that both my numbers were originally GC. Are the people who are unable to do this using numbers that were assigned via GC, or are you using numbers that from day 1 were GV? No, mine was also originally GC. I can't say I've tried everything to make this work -- I haven't done any real troubleshooting. But when this was working before, it was pretty straightforward, and I didn't have a problem. Then it simply stopped working. I think I'm doing what I did before. Strange. Have you tried originating from different phones and providers? Is it possible that, like dryewolfe, your provider is just taking the username of the SIP URI and sending it out as PSTN? I have been able to dial into my GV number(s) via SIP using a softphone with both my Sipgate and Voicepulse accounts. I do not think the provider is just using the SIP URI and passing it through, however I am not sure how to verify that.
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caseydoug
join:2001-08-14
Seattle, WA
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said by wifi4milez :Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that both my numbers were originally GC. Are the people who are unable to do this using numbers that were assigned via GC, or are you using numbers that from day 1 were GV? No, mine was also originally GC. I can't say I've tried everything to make this work -- I haven't done any real troubleshooting. But when this was working before, it was pretty straightforward, and I didn't have a problem. Then it simply stopped working. I think I'm doing what I did before.
Strange. Have you tried originating from different phones and providers? Is it possible that, like dryewolfe, your provider is just taking the username of the SIP URI and sending it out as PSTN? |
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wifi4milez
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said by caseydoug :Hmm. So now we're back down to one person who says this works. I tried a few more times, and never could connect. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that both my numbers were originally GC. Are the people who are unable to do this using numbers that were assigned via GC, or are you using numbers that from day 1 were GV? |
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caseydoug
join:2001-08-14
Seattle, WA | reply to dyrewolfe
Hmm. So now we're back down to one person who says this works. I tried a few more times, and never could connect. |
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dyrewolfe
join:2009-08-02
Durham, NC | reply to dyrewolfe
nevermind. I think callwithus was dropping the '@216.239.37.15:5061' and dialing it as a regular number. It only appeared to be making a SIP call. Oh well. |
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dyrewolfe
join:2009-08-02
Durham, NC | reply to OmagicQ
I just tried with 10 digits and it wouldn't connect. 11 digits works though. Try that. Also, regarding CID, I can't connect if I set the CID to my GV # (testing all of this with a callwithus account). |
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OmagicQ
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said by dyrewolfe :said by OmagicQ :what's the IP address for GV for this to work? I tried myGVnumber@216.239.37.15:5061 and got a request timeout. That's correct. Are you using 11 digits for your number? I dialed 10digits, Do I need to add the 1? Also does the outbound caller id make any difference because I'm using Voxalot and I can't set it. |
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dyrewolfe
join:2009-08-02
Durham, NC
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said by OmagicQ :what's the IP address for GV for this to work? I tried myGVnumber@216.239.37.15:5061 and got a request timeout. That's correct. Are you using 11 digits for your number? |
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OmagicQ
join:2003-10-23
Bakersfield, CA
1 edit | reply to caseydoug
what's the IP address for GV for this to work?
I tried myGVnumber@216.239.37.15:5061 and got a request timeout. |
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