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Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

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reply to fAcEtIOUs

Re: Business plan neglects the broadband ISPs

First off you are a shill so your opinion about what is good for consumers holds little water. As pointed out numerous times, EVERYONE is paying for bandwidth at both ends and if this is not working out for your "friends" then they need adjust their business models to that which are consumer friendly (because of the monopolistic nature of the business) not stock jockey friendly.

Second, if a bulk of the processing is done at the server end then only screen refreshes are used much like a virtual terminal then the bandwidth used would be minimal.

Lastly, the rules do need to change. The ISP's need to become the dumbpipes they are and stop refusing to acknowledge this.


fAcEtIOUs
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join:2002-03-03
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said by Skippy25:

First off you are a shill
Every time the accusation of industry shill is trotted out, this will be the reply:

"This mode of reasoning is a logical fallacy known as ad hominem: attacking the person presenting the argument, instead of pointing out a flaw in their actual argument. It's a fallacy because even if the criticism of the person is true, his argument may still be valid. You can only tell if the argument is valid by examining the actual argument to see if it is actually valid.

Attacking the person instead of the argument they present is intellectually lazy. It's a substitute for thinking. It's also 100% flawed reasoning: you don't arrive at the conclusion from the argument presented."
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S_engineer
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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL

reply to Skippy25

said by Skippy25:

First off you are a shill so your opinion about what is good for consumers holds little water.
you lost any credibility with the sentences that followed this remark!

compton

join:2002-02-08
Brooklyn, NY

said by S_engineer:

said by Skippy25:

First off you are a shill so your opinion about what is good for consumers holds little water.
you lost any credibility with the sentences that followed this remark!



No, he hasn't lost any credibility with that statement. The reason why is every time a new service is announced there is a group of people here who take the position that the service is unfair to the ISP. When these same people time after time take very simplistic positions that favors the ISP at all cost then a reasonable conclusion could be that they are shill.


S_engineer
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join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL

said by compton:

said by S_engineer:

said by Skippy25:

First off you are a shill so your opinion about what is good for consumers holds little water.
you lost any credibility with the sentences that followed this remark!



No, he hasn't lost any credibility with that statement. The reason why is every time a new service is announced there is a group of people here who take the position that the service is unfair to the ISP. When these same people time after time take very simplistic positions that favors the ISP at all cost then a reasonable conclusion could be that they are shill.
Or one could draw the conclusion that they (or he) understand the cost to businesses. These unforeseen events are game changers for businesses that have a model in place.
The simplistic view of this is unfortunately the prevailing one these days. "I want what I want when I want it" with no consideration of the ramification for these desires. If you've got a argument with his position then make it...otherwise you just look like a shill for the ignorant!

compton

join:2002-02-08
Brooklyn, NY

said by S_engineer:

Or one could draw the conclusion that they (or he) understand the cost to businesses. These unforeseen events are game changers for businesses that have a model in place.
The simplistic view of this is unfortunately the prevailing one these days. "I want what I want when I want it" with no consideration of the ramification for these desires. If you've got a argument with his position then make it...otherwise you just look like a shill for the ignorant!




Let me ask you a question. I am a customer of Comcast Internet Services. What do you consider fair use of my Internet connection?

Skippy25

join:2000-09-13
Hazelwood, MO

reply to S_engineer
Did I not have a 2nd and 3rd point to my original posting?

I am sure the last point you and him really didn't like...


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