http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22115141 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:22:08 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 15:22:08 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22603484 /gbu and they have like 30min call caps however if you can deal with that then I think there would be a very good solution. And your PC has to be on to make a call.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22603484 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:20:24 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22603464 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22603464 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:17:34 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22603340 said by dashock333:

phone = $25/month
internet = $60/month
total = $85/month
Hmm and about the cheapest VoIP Is about $10 and + internet that would be about $105, $20 more than you pay now. Oh well maybe it is just not meant to be.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22603340 Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:55:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22599897 internet = $60/month
total = $85/month]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22599897 Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:02:43 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22599097
We just have an AT&T everything type of phone line service. We have unlimited nationwide calling, local, caller ID, and so much more. I think we only pay like $50 or $55 for right now (promotion). The phone line is really old. I think my relatives have had it since before I was born (1980s? Perhaps late 1970s?) (Way back before they changed it from 916 area code to 530).

So all in all, we probably pay about $110/month for Internet/Phone (maybe slightly more for the phone, I forgot we have an unused fax/dial-up line too O_O). My relatives would prefer that as we live in an area susceptible to power outages at any time. We have to have a regular phone line in case it's just our house that loses power, etc.

Though, our ISP has really good service too, I think you could probably do VOIP if you only had phone calls every once in a while.
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We have the middle plan on my ISP, which is about $50 plus a $6 radio rental every month. So it's really not as bad. We used to have Satellite and paid like $80 for service that could never compare to what I have now. I think they know that the Cell Phone internet could potentially become a threat in the area soon, and there's always random companies proposing to put DSL or Cable in the area that I live in every once in a while. So they priced it lower knowing that there is competition, despite the fact that there is no 3G service offered anywhere in the county (But there COULD be).

Good luck to you, I hope that Millenicom works out for you if you go that route. I've heard a lot of good talk about them.
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Any other advice is still appreciated.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22580477 Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:21:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22579777
Yeah, well normally at my house I subscribe to a local Telco WISP. In their ToS, they seem to have limits on gaming. I'm not sure why, but I've never had any problems with gaming, as some days I spend anywhere from 5-13 hours straight playing MMOs. (And, unfortunately, I don't get as good of pings as I should because one of my relatives is used to having DSL or better for internet. So she is a really heavy user (two browser windows with 10 tabs+ each going, streaming youtube, looking up stuff on her iPhone simultaneously).

You'll need a PDF reader, but this is my ISP's ToS:
»dev.cot.net/static/content/servi···erms.pdf

They limit a few things, I think it's because they only use T1's and service a few thousand (or so) people with their towers. (In the particular area I live in. They offer better service in Klamath Falls, but that is because they have FTTH in some places apparently O_O.)
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More info in the millenicom forum here on dslreports...

~Mark]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22166708 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:50:03 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22165673 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22165673 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 14:47:01 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22165315 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22165315 Wed, 01 Apr 2009 13:44:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22153779 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22153779 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:42:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22150858 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22150858 Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:09:00 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22149654 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22149654 Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:07:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22149017
"Does placing the USB modem somewhere else in the house and running a USB extension cord work too?" I don't get what ur saying. Does the ur game system have a usb port that can work as a highspeed port? If so plugging the USB modem into ur, a PS3 was it, may work.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22149017 Sun, 29 Mar 2009 19:30:46 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22148798
Also, on the Millenicom website it says this on the "devices" page, "Millenicom clients using the Pantech UM175 are able to subscribe to a static IP for an additional $10/month."
Would this be considered a fixed WISP?

Would an antenna help? Do you have an antenna? Would you recemmend getting one? Does placing the USB modem somewhere else in the house and running a USB extension cord work too?

Got another answer to my question about whether Millenicom supports VOIP, and the answer was yes, and that many people use Vonage and Skype. So that's pretty cool.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22148798 Sun, 29 Mar 2009 18:30:10 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22137503 said by dashock333:

I appreciate ur bluntness RockyBB, but I like to know what's in soemthing before I jump in.
Realize that cellular broadband networks were designed to push stuff to cell phones: downloads and email. What is the absolute last thing that anyone worries about with downloads and email? Latency. What is the absolute first thing a gamer worries about? Latency.

That said, with cellular broadband, you CAN'T know the answers to your questions without trying it. your performance will depend on the distance to your nearest tower, your orientation to it, the stuff in between your adapter and the tower, and the characteristics of the signal at that tower. knowing averages is worthless, because you just want to know how it will work for you ... you have an almost 100% certainty that your performance will deviate from the average, either better or worse. but there's no way to predict until you try it. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22137503 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:59:07 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22137312 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22137312 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 10:19:44 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22137136 "We work over cell towers (EvDO) and aren't wifi at all. Although we don't have specific numbers on latency you'll find that it is very tolerable. You are in an excellent area for our service."

And for the question about gaming,
"Our service probably won't work well for online gaming. Although we do not cap our service we really aren't for high usage clients."

I think they said this just because they don't want people gaming on their network all day. They said that the latency is very tolerable, so it should be gameable since I am in "an excellent area for their service." ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22137136 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 09:39:21 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22136748 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22136748 Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:55:47 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22135267 And me1212, I want to thank you for all of your help.
If I here anything from Millenicom or Spectra Sites I'll post it here.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22135267 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 21:07:16 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22135181 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22135181 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:45:57 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22134889 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22134889 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:48:52 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22134718 I have looked into Millenicom, their prices seem reasonable for not having contracts or a cap, which is good. What do u mean by "same MWISP diff url"? That they provide the same service but there's two different names? Both URL's take me to the same page as far as I can tell.
If the tower is internet, what kind of pings can I expect? Millenicom has still not gotten back to me. Would they be able to tell me if that tower is part of their network and what kind of pings I could expect from it?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22134718 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:18:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22134650 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22134650 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:07:50 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22134204 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22134204 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:46:14 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22133188 www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/Cove···WREQUEST make sure the broadband and vcast circle has the dot in it enter ur address and if u r in the blue it is most likely an internet tower.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22133188 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:49:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22133005 How do i find out if the verizon is cell or internet?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22133005 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 14:20:16 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22132491 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22132491 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:58:06 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22132458
Site Name: Panther Head
Site Number: 308429

Address: Woods at Chapel Hill
City: Pine Grove
State: Pennsylvania
Zip Code: 17963
Latitude: 40 - 34 - 10.9 N 40.56972
Longitude: 76 - 26 - 3.12 W -76.4342
Map to Google
Map to MapQuest



Tower Data
Tower Number: 308429
Structure Height (AGL): 130 ft.
Structure Height (AMSL): 1360 ft.
Clearance: 13 ft.
Total Height (AMSL): 1373 ft.
Type: Self Support
FAA #: 00-AEA-3188-OE
FCC #:

Site Specs
MTA: Philadelphia
BTA: Pottsville, PA
MSA/RSA: Pennsylvania 8 - Union
Ground Elevation AMSL: 1230 ft.
Datum: NAD83
County: SCHUYLKILL
Region USA
Comments:
Driving Instructions: 81 north from Harrisburg to Exit 100 Rte 443. Go east on 443 and make left onto 2 1/2 mile Road. Then take it to Out Wood Dr. and go left. Then make a right onto Chapel Road and proceed for about two miles to Summit Road on the left. Take Summit road up the mountain to a dead end and you will see a gate with a stone road going up into the mountain even more. Take it up all the way to the tower on the right.

Utility Information
Telco Provider: Verizon
Power Provider: PPL
Backup Generator: No
]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22132458 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:53:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22132416

Alert! 15 Towers (6 Registered,9 Not Registered) found within 4.00 miles of Chestnut Ln, Pine Grove, PA 17963.

Info! The NEAREST Tower is .58 miles away and is owned by Spectra Site Communications.

Ok! No Applications for Future Towers detected as of 03/26/09.

Tower Type ID Num Site Owner Height Dist
Registered (1) New Cingular Wireless Pcs, Llc 309 feet 2.24 miles
(2) New Cingular Wireless Services, Inc. 221 feet 2.46 miles
(3) Cellco Partnership 210 feet 2.71 miles
(4) Commonwealth Of Pennsylvania State Police 300 feet 3.52 miles
(5) Cellco Partnership 270 feet 3.53 miles
(6) Cincap Vi, Llc 181 feet 3.79 miles
Not Registered (1) Spectra Site Communications 155 feet .58 miles
(2) Blank 75 feet 1.29 miles
(3) Schuylkill, County Of 320 feet 2.26 miles
(4) Us Cellular Corp 199 feet 2.75 miles
(5) Us Cellular Corp 199 feet 3.52 miles
(6) Us Cellular Corp 199 feet 3.69 miles
(7) United States Cellular Operating Co 190 feet 3.74 miles
(8) Blank 320 feet 3.81 miles
(9) Schuylkill County Municipal 104 feet 3.89 miles
Future (No Towers Detected)]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22132416 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:47:03 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22131735 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22131735 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:37:54 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22131617 How much is ISDN a month?
We pay $60 a month right now for sat internet, and that's about the max.
I'll try to find out if there are fixed WISP's in the area.
What's the difference between a fixed WISP and a cellular WISP?
According to the google maps the closest tower is prolly over 20 miles away and through some mountains.
There is a tower on the mountain right behind my house, how do I find out what that is for? Could it be a WISP?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22131617 Thu, 26 Mar 2009 10:15:33 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22129487 www.onelasvegas.com/wireless/

»www.onelasvegas.com/wireless/

»/gmaps/localis···s&place=

put ur area code after the = on the last 1

There r the links to help find a local FWISP

The neighbors thing was for a t1, and with them that far away it look likes a no go, unless you want to spend hundreds a month for a t1(it 1.5m/1.5m).

EDIT: If you cannot get a fixed WISP can you get an ISDN line? from what I understand it is like uber dial-up. you need a more expencive ISDN phone line(I hear the audio on the ISDN phone line is better than a normal phone line) if they will bond it it will be 128/128(other wise its 64/64) from what I hear it will work with a wired router and the ping are more like 100m-150ms, but if you can get those pings with any kinds of WISP(there r fixed wisps and mobile(cellular) wisps) WISP>ISDN. ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22129487 Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:12:20 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22129325
U also mentioned, "Also you may want to see if there is a local fixed WISP near you, if there us you most likely will not have to buy a new router I did not when I switched from WB to my WISP they even support VoIP." How do I go about finding out if there is a local fixed WISP?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22129325 Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:44:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22129279
Pinging www.l.google.com [209.85.225.104] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 209.85.225.104: bytes=32 time=38ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.85.225.104: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.85.225.104: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=242
Reply from 209.85.225.104: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=242

Pinging www.dslreports.com [209.123.109.175] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=52
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=85ms TTL=52
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=52
Reply from 209.123.109.175: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=52

I would say no more than 120-ishms(even that may be pushing it) 100ms and less and should be good enough for shooters.

Hoe many neighbors do you have? how much would you all be willing to pay for internet? what speed?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22129279 Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:38:45 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22129191 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22129191 Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:19:23 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22126356 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22126356 Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:47:42 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22126287 Also, does anyone ever notice lag while gaming with their WISP?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22126287 Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:39:55 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22122931 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22122931 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:52:26 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22122839 Well I checked the verizon broadband coverage map and my house is included in that area of blue. I'm gonn atry contacting Millenicom to see what they say.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22122839 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:37:17 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22122535 said by dashock333:

Can I plug the usb device into my linksys wrt54gs router?
no. you need an EVDO router.

you are confusing WISP with cellular broadband. they are both wireless, but different. satellite is wireless, too, but it is different. cellular broadband comes from cellular towers, and you'll get a USB device that connects directly to your computer or to an EVDO router. WISP comes from a tower, and the WISP company attaches a dish to your home and runs a wire into the house to connect to a bridge which then connects to one machine (computer or router). WISPs can have excellent latency and jitter. cellular broadband will not have excellent latency and jitter and you might not be happy with gaming experience. WISPs will be better for gaming, but local WISP companies might not want their networks used for that type of traffic -- be sure to ask.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22122535 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:39:37 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22121613 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22121613 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:42:24 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22120190 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22120190 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:40:51 EDT http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22119431 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Newbie-to-WISPs-needs-some-info-22119431 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:25:36 EDT