DaneJasper
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1 edit | Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups
Well done Karl!
Clearly, we do need competition. It's amazing that so many people don't understand how important competition is.
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baineschile
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1 edit | But should competition be subsidized by the government? Thats a step towards socialization.
Personally, if I started an ISP, i would target areas that would cost me the least amount to wire, with the most amount of homes passed (potential customers). The answer to this? Cities!...and densley populated suburbs around those cities.
Rural living and city living both have advantages and disadvantages; you dont see a lot of competition in any industry in small towns (one walmart, 2 or so chain restruants). Why should broadband be different? |
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me1212
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1 edit | What is the answer to the cost of wiring? Wireless, if someone were to put up a town that serves the city good got the city served, and if the people on the outskirts of town can get the signal got them served too.
And if the Gov is going to give them money to wire more anyway, y should they not use it for that? Its not like the yr not getting money, if they get it to wire more thats what the yshould use it for. I still say wireless would be easier. |
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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | You make a valid point, but lets say we do start an all wireless ISP. If a customer has our product, and its not working properly, we would have to send out a technician to repair it. Obivously, rural areas are still harder to access. |
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me1212
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Pleasant Hill, MO | Thats why wireless costs more than wired, WISPs take that(repair men) into account. |
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moonpuppy
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said by baineschile  :But should competition be subsidized by the government? Thats a step towards socialization. Personally, if I started an ISP, i would target areas that would cost me the least amount to wire, with the most amount of homes passed (potential customers). The answer to this? Cities!...and densley populated suburbs around those cities. Rural living and city living both have advantages and disadvantages; you dont see a lot of competition in any industry in small towns (one walmart, 2 or so chain restruants). Why should broadband be different? At one time, celluar service was regulated by the government. There was a requirement that there be an "A" and "B" system in every market. The "A" system company could NOT have any interest in the local wireline service. The "B" system could have an interest in the local wireline service. Lease rates were also regulated so the "B" system couldn't out price the "A" on the same connections. In my area, the "A" system was Celluar One and the "B" system was Bell Atlantic Mobile.
Sometimes mandated competition is a good thing. |
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TKJunkMail
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Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups. You mean like Public Knowledge? Brodsky wants a big chunk of that $350 million for his own organization and that may be his underlying bias against Connected Nation.
Public Knowledge has argued that they're derailing more serious broadband mapping efforts already underway in a number of States. That's a big deal, since included in the $7 billion dollar broadband stimulus plan is $350 million to be spent on mapping.
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RadioDoc
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| said by TKJunkMail :Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups. You mean like Public Knowledge? Brodsky wants a big chunk of that $350 million for his own organization Well put. |
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artbrodsky
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| Just so you know, I wrote my first story about Connected Nation more than a year ago, long before there was any thought about a need for the stimulus. see »www.publicknowledge.org/node/1334
I've done several more stories since, which you are free to examine at your leisure. |
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BF69
join:2004-07-28
Camden, TN
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said by baineschile :But should competition be subsidized by the government? Thats a step towards socialization. Oh god you people and your fears of a socialized USA.
A) take off the tin foil hat Chicken Little
B) guess what we already have socialisation with SOCIAL security, Medicaid, Medicare etc. And guess what for most Americans those programs have always existed yet you still think the USA is free, right? You still think it's the greatest nation on earth, right? Wait, how can that be, there's socialization?
C) it's 2009 not 1989 the big mean commies aren't coming to invade us. |
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S_engineer
join:2007-05-16
Chicago, IL | reply to artbrodsky
Ok, in the interest of time, the whom in your opinion, would be an independant guard or group to give this task to? |
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goinglike60
join:2009-02-10
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Access to the internet needs to be treated like infrastructure. Therefore, access to the web needs to be run like municipal utilities (and police, fire, water, sewer, etc.)
No competition. But far cheaper because there are no shareholders demanding and ROI and quarterly dividend checks.
Check out this little town in KY and what they are able to do. »rbg.glasgow-ky.com/2009/03/of-in···gow.html
While our initial gravel driveway connection to the world has now grown from 1.5 Mbps to 150 Mbps...we will be completing our own fiber optic circuit to Bowling Green and, in turn, to an AT&T router which is in Bowling Green. This will finally allow us nearly infinite capacity to the internet. (BTW: Bowling Green is the home of Connect Kentucky which spawned Connected Nation.)
Local governments belong in the business of providing access to ALL citizens of a community. The local community can then decide if they want to pay for a "gravel road" or "superhighway." |
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goinglike60
join:2009-02-10 | reply to S_engineer
who should do mapping????
A university. |
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SuperWISP
join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY | reply to artbrodsky
Supporters of "Public Knowledge?"
Art, you might want to publish a list of Public Knowledge's contributors here -- preferably the one from your 2008 Form 990 -- so that folks know which corporations you are lobbying for. |
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KrK
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Tulsa, OK | reply to baineschile
Re: Bravo for uncovering bogus "interest" groups
Hmmm promoting competition is socialism? What's blocking competition then? |
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SuperWISP
join:2007-04-17
Laramie, WY | reply to SuperWISP
Re: Supporters of "Public Knowledge?"
...and there was a deafening silence.  |
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