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Re: Advanced Fiber Network claim said by JRW2:said by Darth Fiber:Just because Cablevision doesn't run fiber directly to the home does not mean that they don't have a more advanced network than other companies. The network is more than just television and internet for residential customers. Excuse me?? Hybrid fiber network, or fiber to the home.... Hmmmm, I wonder which ACTUALLY delivers faster speeds, and which can consistently deliver them?? I would also add, which has a better PQ than the other. My guess is with true fibre to the home since with all the bandwidth on fibre, the compression rates can be lower.
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2 edits | said by dvd536:said by JRW2:said by Darth Fiber:Just because Cablevision doesn't run fiber directly to the home does not mean that they don't have a more advanced network than other companies. The network is more than just television and internet for residential customers. Excuse me?? Hybrid fiber network, or fiber to the home.... Hmmmm, I wonder which ACTUALLY delivers faster speeds, and which can consistently deliver them?? I would also add, which has a better PQ than the other. My guess is with true fibre to the home since with all the bandwidth on fibre, the compression rates can be lower. They can do that with HFC if they drop the analog, expand to 1GHz and/or use SDV. Much of what cable isn't doing is not because they can't do it, it's because they don't want to do it because of cost and/or pissing off analog subscribers and the FCC.
Remember that FiOS TV is just an 860MHz HFC system with the node (ONT) in your house. In fact the internet portion is carried over coax via MoCA from 860MHz - 1GHz.
If cable goes to 1GHz they can offer what FiOS is offering today without (relatively) much of an investment. Of course when you mention that to Fiber fanboys they attempt beat you down because "fiber is just better."
By the way "the compression can be lower" yes that is true. FiOS puts only 2 HD channels per QAM. Cable companies put 3 because most of their space is occupied by analog video. When the analog gets decommissioned there will be breathing room for the HD channels and they can put it back to 2 per QAM. Additionally they can go to MPEG4 and use less bandwidth per channel, like DIrecTV (and Dish) is doing. |
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| 'Remember that FiOS TV is just an 860MHz HFC system with the node (ONT) in your house. In fact the internet portion is carried over coax via MoCA from 860MHz - 1GHz.'
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| said by bogey780:'Remember that FiOS TV is just an 860MHz HFC system with the node (ONT) in your house. In fact the internet portion is carried over coax via MoCA from 860MHz - 1GHz.' No. I'm sorry you don't like the truth but that's the way it is. Yes, they can give you ethernet from the ONT but they don't do that because the actiontec router is used for VOD and multi room DVR. |
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| Still, no.
Unless FiOS customers are liars.
»blogs.dialogic.com/2005/07/more_···_in.html |
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1 edit | That was in 2005. My friend who had FiOS installed in 2008 (last year) got an actiontec router which was fed with coax from the ONT. That is how FiOS can offer the multi room DVR and on demand. It is an integrated solution using MoCA.
If you want ethernet from the ONT you can have it if you ask for it but you lose the multi room DVR or on demand functions. For most installs out there MoCA over coax works just fine. |
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| MoCA is done as a way to save from running Cat5. They just use the existing coax for a linked network.
MoCA is DOCSIS like DSL is 10BASE-T. |
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