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Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:52:18 EDT

chronoss2009 posted : apt-get rtorrent of course there are more things for a Debian based linux to do and i am not going to use ubuntu know more cause of there integration of mono like crap.

if you want ssl it gets tricky also.
if....

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:11:13 EDT

erk71 posted : I'm using UT2.0beta under wine in linux and this works as described. Does anyone have information about this working using any other clients? Looking for one that runs native on linux (so far ktorrent doesn't seem to have the same advanced settings.)

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:25:16 EDT

Quakky posted : Arbalister said back in 2008 :
" I've got my router set up to manage the connections. I've got windows set up to negotiate MLPPP via the check box in the connection properties. The pppoe connection in windows is *never* used to establish a connection, since the router always does. I'm not throttled. In fact, I never even had a windows pppoe connection until someone mentioned that there was an mlppp checkbox on it. I created one, turned on mlppp, hit connect (the first time) and it somehow seems to have actually connected...and the throttling on the torrent I was downloading stopped. I rebooted my machine. Opened a browser and *did not* connect, actually told it to never connect, and started a torrent. No throttle. Brought up the properties screen for the pppoe connection, turned off mlppp...and was throttled moments later. Turned it on, still not "connected" via windows...and no throttle.

Simply creating a pppoe connection and telling it to use mlppp is all you need to do."

is that still working? if so, how is he creating a pppoe connection when using Local Area connection?

mine is grayed out

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:20:59 EDT

Robrr posted : Guys, did you actually look at the graph. The connection drops to zero and the port forward is not the green checkmark. Frankw suffered a disconnect, not Bell's throttle. Hell his download is already back above 30KBps

As for Bell finding out, THEY ALREADY KNOW! There are Bell employees using this method to evade throttling.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:16:31 EDT

Turbinator posted : I used this for the longest time, and after this I am afraid they might notice it and do something about it.

Stop replying to this thread and let it sink to the bottom, unnoticed, and instead just sends links of this to people you trust. :)

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:45:13 EDT

Quakky posted : I am sad to say that this does work.

The reason why this is sad is because Bell is looking at this thread right now and analyzing the settings so they can counter it as soon as possible

It is also sad because someone probably is gonna get fired/ got fired for not doing his/her job right, which is destroy BT as we know it.

I believe that stuff like this should not be shared in public forums where dickhea...i mean Bell can just come in here and counter any attempts of bypassing their hopefully soon to be illegal action.

OP next time you find something like this, pm some trusted people who will pm some more trusted people..word of mouth goes along way

/sigh

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:53:06 EDT

Robrr posted : Looking at your graph there it looks like your modem or router rebooted considering the graph dropped to 0 as well as the port forward is not a green check mark.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:37:28 EDT

frankw posted : Hmm seems this no longer works. Works fine for a while, then throttling kicks in.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:21:09 EDT

gamer515 posted : so this works even without signing up for the mlppp thing?

ok tried it with 1.9a build 14908, exact same settings. i find that the speed fluctuates a lot, averaging around 100.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 10 Oct 2009 01:01:23 EDT

olebiker posted : Man I do envy you.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:38:34 EDT

anon posted : Throttle? What throttle, been with teksavvy for 6 weeks in Ottawa, and I have consistant, download speed off 500-750KB/sec, and an upload of 90-100KB/sec 24/7.

Profile is 7Meg- 7060/1040 How I ended up on a bell only sync rate who knows, all I know is the unscheduled tech that came to my door, wanted to install a modem for me, he asked me if bell had sent me a modem... Hmm my spider senses kicked in, and I said "yeah they mail them, but I haven't got it yet. He goes on to inform me that I am on a great line and he managed to get me full sync! Well I hope I never need to have a ticket issued for this line, and I'm never moving!

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:12:44 EDT

frankw posted : Very weird. I'm at Front and Sherbourne, queued up a torrent at 5:30pm and it sat at 30KB/s. I'm on a dynamic IP.

For anyone still having trouble, I upgraded from uTorrent 1.9b to 2.0b and am using the following settings:

- Port 1723 (VPN)
- Everything unchecked on BitTorrent tab except Bandwidth Mgt
- Protocol encryption Forced, legacy connections disabled.
- Under advanced, bt.transp_disposition set to 10 (uTP only).
- reset modem after applying these settings.

After the above, speeds fluctuates around maximum speed (380-400KB/s). Torrent has 1500 seeds.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:58:42 EDT

Fergless posted : This is too weird.
Still not throttled at Bloor and Dundas St. W.

uTorrent 1.8.3 with regular settings. On a Static IP address.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:50:45 EDT

frankw posted : Still throttling today at 30KB/s in Toronto. Why would they just turn it off?

uTorrent 2 beta with all the setting changes seems to be working though.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Thu, 08 Oct 2009 12:48:21 EDT

Fergless posted : For what it's worth, there has been NO throttling from Bell for the last 3 or 4 days. Might take that into consideration.

For myself and another user that is.

Give it a try without any kind of workaround. :)

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:25:10 EDT

grunze510 posted :

said by dbsanfte:

Nigrunze:

»lmgtfy.com/?q=utorrent+mac+utp+support&l=1

lol. I'm suffering from laziness. :p

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:06:47 EDT

dbsanfte posted : Nigrunze:

»lmgtfy.com/?q=utorrent+mac+utp+support&l=1

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:49:13 EDT

grunze510 posted :

said by kpr:

Will this work on the Mac Client as well??

Does anyone know if µTorrent 0.9.2 for Mac supports UDP?

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 12:27:11 EDT

dbsanfte posted : Why wouldn't it?

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:24:14 EDT

kpr posted : Will this work on the Mac Client as well??

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:27:53 EDT

simms posted : This worked great! Went from 60kbps at 4:30pm today.. d/led the new utorrent 1.9 from here: »forum.utorrent.com/viewforum.php?id=4

I kept the same settings as the original post - value of 10 under bt.transp_disposition.

Did a quick restart of the modem and router, and now downloading torrents at 450kbps at 5:30 on Bell.

Thanks very much!

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:58:38 EDT

pat2008 posted : kinda crazy how well that works... 9kb download to 600k

I love how bell messes with my legitimate torrent...i don't leave computer on at night so i needed to download ubuntu server during the day at 9-15kb a day..week later it's almost done... how sad

thanks again

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:19:28 EDT

dbsanfte posted : If you're still throttled after following the directions, please reset your DSL modem, as this will reset the DPI on your line.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:37:20 EDT

verykrysp posted : Actually, there is more than one difference...

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:22:24 EDT

verykrysp posted : I forgot...

I'm in Montreal with teksavvy...

Why it never works for me:(

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:20:42 EDT

verykrysp posted : I was throttled at 50 but had an old version of utorrent, then I installed the 1.8.4 version, I tried a first torrent and had a great result, going around 250.
Then I tried to download a second torrent and it fell to 30 (10 and 20) :(
I installed the 1.9 version with the settings recommended and nothing :(

I installed the 2.0 version and still throttled at 30...

In the advanced panel of my 2.0 version, there is: bt.ratelimit_tcp_only between the : bt.prio_first_last_piece
and the : bt.scrape_stopped.

maybe I need to change it? Even with my 1.9 version I had that one too...

Anyone?

thanx

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Thu, 13 Aug 2009 02:01:10 EDT

anon posted : With Teksavvy in Montreal... followed directions, went from 45kbps to 270kbps and rising! :-)

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Wed, 12 Aug 2009 23:38:10 EDT

olebiker posted :

said by SuperHappy :

Wow, I've been scouring the net for an answer to my throttling and this honestly worked. I forgot to switch the port number, but as soon as I did it worked right away. Thank god, we're three roommates on free landlord internet so we won't be fighting for downloading. Thanks!

Enjoy it while it lasts. I think you will soon see landlords not offer this.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Wed, 12 Aug 2009 22:22:36 EDT

anon posted : Wow, I've been scouring the net for an answer to my throttling and this honestly worked. I forgot to switch the port number, but as soon as I did it worked right away. Thank god, we're three roommates on free landlord internet so we won't be fighting for downloading. Thanks!

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:34:12 EDT

olebiker posted : Throttle does not start until 4:30 pm.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Wed, 12 Aug 2009 12:55:37 EDT

Napalm Frog posted : Okay, so I just moved to my new Waterloo apartment, and had my TSI hooked up via dry loop today. I've been testing torrents for the past 30 minutes, and although speeds fluctuate insanely, I tend to average about 150 KB/s during the lunch hour. Does this mean I am not being throttled? Or is it likely throttling will commence soon? I just want to know because if 150 KB/s is still low, maybe I should do MLPP anyways. Or is it because of the fact there is a large Bell building literally in my apartments backyard?

On that note, my parents in Milton, also see similar speeds to this (assuming seeds are really good), and average about 100 KB/s. I was under the understanding that throttled speeds were 30-40KB/s, no?
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Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:06:57 EDT

oxfordwhite posted :

said by dbsanfte:

That video is terrible.

^^

Wow really 1 16 Megabyte DL Speed for only $99 a month? I think if bell offered speeds almost up to OC3 to my house I might switch....However that is 16Megabit which would amount to only 2Megabyte DL speed

terrrible video.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:06:38 EDT

MP3it posted : Yes it's buggy, even after upgrade to build 16126
I also recommend stay with ver 1.9

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 08 Aug 2009 19:14:25 EDT

l0thar posted : Quick update to any interested parties, uTorrent is now up to version 2.0 Beta - they will be skipping the 1.9 version number all together due to the amount of changes in this upcoming version.

People who are using v1.9 alpha might want to look at this improved version.

»forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=60602

quote:
1.9 is now 2.0, and we've hit beta!

Release Notes:

* We've added UDP tracker support!
* uTP has been improved significantly over the previous alpha, with many bugs fixed and performance improvements. It's no longer hidden in Advanced settings.
* The setup dialog has been overhauled to make it much easier to use and with a built-in speed test. It's still not quite complete yet, but this will give you a good taste of what we're up to with it!
* Transfer caps are now configurable, with usage tracking and graphs.

EDIT :

Turns out there are some annoying bugs on this version, so until there's a fix, 1.9 version is better, imo. :(

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Wed, 01 Jul 2009 21:43:28 EDT

Rastan posted : It might be working for you but I keep getting mixed results. Right now I'm downloading a well seeded torrent at anywhere between 50kB/s - 95kB/s. There's more than enough peers that are uTP compatible to max out my connection.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Tue, 23 Jun 2009 00:07:36 EDT

anon posted : I confirm , its working with 1.9 Beta , i just moved into a new house and i used to have cable , now i'm with Distributel (using Bell canada DSL) i was only getting 27-30k during peak hour since 1 week , i changed my torrent config and i got 150k instantly instead of 27k , i'm getting 140-150k/s since 60 last minute , we are still in the "peak" hours. Thank alot for this info.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:29:13 EDT

moggy posted : you cant use it on private sites
and utorrent 1.8.3 is out today it has utp
A lot of fixes for this release. uTP support has been much improved to better handle mixed-mode uTP and TCP. It is not enabled by default for outgoing connections.

For ut 1.8.3 & 1.9 bt.transp_disposition is a bitfield, so the following numbers can be ADDED or used on their own to get the desired effect:

4 - incoming TCP
8 - incoming uTP
1 - outgoing TCP
2 - outgoing uTP

Specific combinations:
5 - TCP incoming + outgoing only (uTP disabled)
10 - uTP only
13 - TCP incoming + outgoing with uTP outgoing only (*1.8.3 default)
15 - both TCP and uTP, incoming + outgoing (*1.9 default)

13's the recommended setting for 1.8.3 and 15 for 1.9
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Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:10:25 EDT

civuck5 posted : This method has stopped working for me as of today after a few months of success. Anyone else?

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:11:41 EDT

dbsanfte posted : Honestly I never thought it would become this popular :P

Glad to see it helped so many.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:46:00 EDT

anon posted : I saw this thread way back when it first started and thought it couldn't hurt to try. I used all the settings from the 1st post and had some mixed success with v1.9. My only gripe was that the older v1.9 didn't let you set limits on your upload/download so I went down to the 1.8.3 beta with all the same settings instead. I usually reset my bt.transp_disposition back to 13 during non-throttled hours but this afternoon I forgot to do that but I don't seem to be throttled anymore? Is this happening with anyone else?

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:00:09 EDT

Rastan posted : I forgot to update my post last night. After I was throttled at 30kB/s, I did a hard reset (both modem and router) and tested again. I even downloaded a well seeded torrent from a private tracker and my download speed went up to around 370kB/s combined for both torrents.

I don't know why I was throttled before I reset my modem and router but I was clearly throttled as I could not get past 30kB/s and that particular torrent downloaded much faster after the reset.

I did not change any settings in uTorrent after the reset.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sun, 07 Jun 2009 13:00:37 EDT

MindMazeII posted : I am 100% avoiding Throttle for many months. Yes, I got to pay like $12 CAD more for the premium service bandwidth.

Rapid$hare is awesome.
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Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 06 Jun 2009 19:21:47 EDT

AkFubar posted : I tried a bunch of settings and couldn't get above 10 kBps with Utorrent 1.9. I switched to Utorrent 1.8.2. At least it seems stable and I can get 30 kBps with it. :huh:
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Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:10:55 EDT

Rastan posted : I followed the steps that the OP outlined and it doesn't work for me. I'm currently downloading at under 30kB/s on a well seeded torrent (with many uTP connections) on a public tracker.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Mon, 25 May 2009 14:55:37 EDT

static416 posted :

said by Davesnothere :

What I have noticed (which may be affecting some peeps' mileage) is, simply put, that if there are not enough folks out there who have the file you want AND have uTP enabled at THEIR end, then you could even get NOTHING in some cases where you originally got SOME transfer speed before changing the settings at YOUR end.

My experience is the same. This works acceptably on very well seeded torrents, but poorly seeded torrents may stop completely if there isn't someone else using uTP.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 23 May 2009 15:40:57 EDT

Hebrekon posted : Oh ok. i guess i kind of get it.
But isnt that dangerous for getting the proper information. by that i mean that. there isnt a chance that the movie im dowloading might get screwed up and wont be readable because it got torn apart ??

Second. Im at work right. so im not sure of what i saying. but i think bell throttle betwenn 4pm and 2 am. at those time I get 100kb.... and the rest of the time i get 300... i think thats whats hapenning... its still better then before but anyways.

Isnt there good website where we can just pay like 50$ a year and get unlimited download. that would just be way simpler. than all that trouble I went threw to get my speed up... But at less now I know that bells are sucker. and i know abit more about computers. because ive been download at 20 kbs for more than a year now.

Now i need to try the new utorrent alpha. . I ve downloaded one and 1 hour later there was a new one already. lol

cya soon.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 23 May 2009 10:56:38 EDT

dbsanfte posted : That video is terrible.

Alright Hebrekon, here you go, an explanation.

UDP is a protocol. TCP is a different protocol. Put simply, they're different ways of sending packets out of your computer.

Up until lately, all torrents have been using TCP, essentially because it's easier. TCP is like a phone call... you call the other person, transfer your data, and hang up. But it's very easy to keep track of who's talking to whom, isn't it? That's how Bell throttles: they listen in on the 'line' and tell that you're talking to lots of other computers about Bittorrent. Metaphorically speaking, of course.

UDP is not a phone call. There's no start or stop to the conversation, it's just individual words sent one after another, and they can arrive in any order, or even not at all.

Let's compare how TCP and UDP would send the following sentence:

"The cat in the hat."

TCP would just open a connection, say it from start to finish, and hang up.

UDP would split it up into individual words: 'the' 'cat' 'in' 'the' 'hat', and send out five separate packets to the target computer. The packets may arrive out of order, or even not at all, and need to be resent. And it's up to the computer at the other end to put them together properly.

The key advantage is, it's really really hard to keep track of a UDP conversation, because there's no 'call' and 'hang up' phone call like with TCP. Essentially, UDP confuses the throttling hardware. So it can't tell you're talking about Bittorrent.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 23 May 2009 07:58:39 EDT

Hebrekon posted : thats good to know.... I that that udp has to do with how many seeds i get ,,, I think... but can someone explain what it is. cause i really have no clue... just for personnal knowledge.

2) I guess MultiPPP is completely impossible with bell ?!?

3) What is uTP.... and do I have to force it to absolutely force it to*10 to get that fix.

4) I would undestand you would not want to explain everything. to prevent bell`s tyranny.

5)How do we complain about bell`s throttling. Ive viewed this video on youtube.

»www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlMbxosLtaY. which tells you to who u should complain isf you fell like it. Im going to. hopefully I will find the time and passion to do it.

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 23 May 2009 05:48:39 EDT

l0thar posted :

said by Hebrekon:

ok... so PPP is dial-up and Bell is not PPP because its DSL ???

2) So are you trying to tell me that the only way to get fast torrent dl is to change providers and there is no way to get around it because im with Bell...

Yes, I would really recommend you considering leaving Bell - they are the ones causing you and everyone the grief you are going thru.

One of the BEST ways to let them know and fight back is to deny them the $$$, by moving to a different provider. If enough people do that, it shows in their money inflows, and someone might notice.

Multilink ppp is currently the best way to avoid the throttling, and of course Bell is not going to offer you that.

You can also save money too, since alternative ISPs do charge less than Bell, offer higher monthly badwidth quotas (some of them offer unlimited). I am paying $30 a month for service that is probably near $50 at Bell.

Customer service and tech support are also much, much better than what bell offers nowadays (atrocious).

said by Hebrekon:

3) is teksavy throtlling two... and buy doing what what said in this forum previously ( dl utrront 1.9a, and port 1723 and all ) fixes that. OR teksavvy is not throlling right now ??
(im saying right now becaue probably they will eventually but wtv that in the futur, and for now id like to DL at 500kb like im supose too)

Teksavvy is not throttling, but their clients (and the cleints of most other independant DSL wholesalers) ARE being affected by Bell's imposed throttling during peak times. After 4 pm, until 2 am you are affected.

But that's due to Bell's actions, and there's a fight at the CRTC against that.

said by Hebrekon:

Ive did everything from trying port 80, port 1723. and even port fowarding (and hosting them, wtv it means becasue im really clueless in all of this). So ive tryed all of it (hopefully not everything because that means im scrude) and Ive never NEVER manage to KEEP more than a few seconds a speed higher then 100kbs.

is there anything I can do to get my dl to at less 300.

as I mentioned, the only sure way currently to consistently defeat the throttle is to move to an ISP supporting multilink ppp.

The uTorrent alpha version does work, if you have the correct settings AND there's enough people in the swarm supporting the new udp data transfer modes. But it's hit and miss, while mlppp works, all the time (for now at least).

Good luck!

Re: Evading throttling with uTP / uTorrent 1.9a

Sat, 23 May 2009 00:48:45 EDT

anon posted :

said by dbsanfte:

It's strange that a lot of people don't seem to have success with this, because in my experience, forcing uTP in uTorrent with this particular configuration beats the Bell throttle consistently.

So, walkthrough.

You'll need the uTorrent 1.9 alpha, this is a link to the March 24th build: »download.utorrent.com/beta/utorr···.upx.exe

Once you've gotten that, you'll need to do the following.

Set the bittorrent configuration options as you see here in these screenshots.

In the advanced settings, you'll need to force bt.transp_disposition to 10, in order to force uTorrent only to use the uTP UDP protocol.

Note that the specific port setting is important in my experience.

If MLPPP isn't an option for you, this should get you unthrottled reasonably well. Results in the last screenie at 12am during throttling hours, after about 25mins of solid downloading.

Thank You for offering this !

What I have noticed (which may be affecting some peeps' mileage) is, simply put, that if there are not enough folks out there who have the file you want AND have uTP enabled at THEIR end, then you could even get NOTHING in some cases where you originally got SOME transfer speed before changing the settings at YOUR end.

For MY usage, I occasionally flip between normal settings and YOURS, depending on what I'm getting at the time.

And sometimes, it makes a BIG difference (other times, not).

Cheers ! :)

One last observation : The uTorrent installer file at the link you provided is not the same version as what was there when I first downloaded it. - I do not know whether that matters.