ninjatutle
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join:2006-01-02
San Ramon, CA | ha
So much for the android being the savior.. |
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DataRiker
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Metairie, LA
clubs: | well, this is really a non issue since users can install any app they want as long as they do it themselves. |
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N3OGH
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join:2003-11-11
Philly burbs
 ·Verizon FIOS
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Besides, tether it to what? T-mobile's molasses slow data network.
May as well Scotch tape a piece of string and a can to your USB port, I hear the downstream speeds are better...
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rmdir
join:2003-03-13
Chicago, IL
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It's still pretty annoying. I was truly looking forward to the day when I'd be out of my contract with V* later this year, but after researching things like the lack of VOIP last night, and now this, I've pretty much given up on TMO having a desirable product. This smacks too much of the things I've already had to do with my V account. If I'm going to have to hack my phone, there's not much incentive to dump Verizon for a different carrier. |
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jesseb_66
join:2002-12-06
Tucson, AZ | reply to N3OGH
Your right their edge network is very slow.
Coming from a t mobile BB user here.
I don't tether often but it is a bare when I have to... Usable sorta enjoyable no. |
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bender
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Evanston, IL
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i live in the suburbs and I get about 750 Kbit/s on my g1 and about 300 Kbit/s upstream. its enough for the g1 to work like its supposed to. I keep my phone on edge most of the time anyways (saves on battery life). I have tethered to my laptop when I'm out and don't have wifi access before too. its good enough to do business while comuting too. |
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tiger72
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Saint Louis, MO
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said by rmdir  :It's still pretty annoying. I was truly looking forward to the day when I'd be out of my contract with V* later this year, but after researching things like the lack of VOIP last night, and now this, I've pretty much given up on TMO having a desirable product. This smacks too much of the things I've already had to do with my V account. If I'm going to have to hack my phone, there's not much incentive to dump Verizon for a different carrier. how is going to a website to manually download an apk "hacking your phone"? This aint an iphone, or a VZW stripped-down OS.
To get any of those tethering apps, all you need to do is find the installer and download it.
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tiger72
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My power went out a few days ago when I was planning on working from home. My job is entirely web-centric. I have a laptop, but losing power meant losing my dsl connection. So I tethered my laptop to my G1 (VERY easy) and simply used the EDGE network, and I must say that it was more than sufficient for me to get my work done. Tethering to my TMO phone on EDGE saved my ass.
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rmdir
join:2003-03-13
Chicago, IL
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I don't mean hacking in the typical sense, I should have said attempting to use it in an unofficially sanctioned way. Instead of being the knight in shining armor, they are turning into another Apple with the IPhone. And they haven't looked at how Apple's hard line hasn't stopped people, it just pisses them off instead. |
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biggbrother
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Providence, RI
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From a business standpoint... I can understand how T-Mobile would want to try to limit people from using their network as a replacement for the cable of DSL ISP.
However, since Android is open-source, these tethering apps are easily available from reputable Market alternatives.
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adisor19
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said by rmdir :I don't mean hacking in the typical sense, I should have said attempting to use it in an unofficially sanctioned way. Instead of being the knight in shining armor, they are turning into another Apple with the IPhone. And they haven't looked at how Apple's hard line hasn't stopped people, it just pisses them off instead. This is NOT an unofficially sanctioned way. Jailbraking an iPhone IS an unofficially sanctioned way but this is completely normal and official. Choose your words wisely as it sometimes results in the spreading of FUD.
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adisor19
join:2004-10-11 | reply to N3OGH
If you have t-mobile 3G coverage you wouldn't say that. By the sounds of it, you're probably using EDGE.
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N3OGH
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Philly burbs
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FYI it might be a good idea to pick up a fairly robust UPS for just such a situation. I keep my DSL modem and wireless router behind a UPS and it rand for hours during our last power outage.
Might not be a bad idea, depending on how often your power goes out. I bought all of it when I was using VoIP to keep my voice communications up during outages. I'm back on POTS now, but I still have the equipment.
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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| said by N3OGH :FYI it might be a good idea to pick up a fairly robust UPS for just such a situation. I keep my DSL modem and wireless router behind a UPS and it rand for hours during our last power outage. Might not be a bad idea, depending on how often your power goes out. I bought all of it when I was using VoIP to keep my voice communications up during outages. I'm back on POTS now, but I still have the equipment. Good idea. I keep my cable modem & wireless router behind an UPS and that can let me use my laptop for about 3 or 4 hrs with power down.
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k1ll3rdr4g0n
join:2005-03-19
Homer Glen, IL
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said by ninjatutle :So much for the android being the savior.. We both know it was only a matter of time. Any service managed by a group of people who believe their sole purpose in life is to line their pockets with your money is bound to be a few "bumps". Yet another win for Windows Mobile, no kill switch, and completely customizable. What else do you need?
I mean I am all for a open source phone OS, but that is all it should be - if there is money to be made (such as through a "market place") you bet your bottom dollar that the honest customer will be the one to get hurt. We need a third party market place that isn't run by anyone with "interests" with the (I)SP or OS developer for the iPhone, Windows Mobile, and the G1. This way the company can be neutral and they must have the balls to tell the (I)SPs to eff off if they want a piece of software to be removed...simply because its none of their business (even if it violates the TOS - its not the retailer to make sure the customer follows the TOS, its the (I)SP). |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
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said by TKJunkMail :Good idea. I keep my cable modem & wireless router behind an UPS and that can let me use my laptop for about 3 or 4 hrs with power down. Not when the cable HFC power injectors' batteries last 0-10 minutes since they are 2 decades old, or were stolen to be used in cars and motorcycles. |
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ropeguru
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| said by patcat88 :said by TKJunkMail :Good idea. I keep my cable modem & wireless router behind an UPS and that can let me use my laptop for about 3 or 4 hrs with power down. Not when the cable HFC power injectors' batteries last 0-10 minutes since they are 2 decades old, or were stolen to be used in cars and motorcycles. Maybe in your area but not mine... |
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TKJunkMail
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Avalon, NJ
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said by patcat88 :said by TKJunkMail :Good idea. I keep my cable modem & wireless router behind an UPS and that can let me use my laptop for about 3 or 4 hrs with power down. Not when the cable HFC power injectors' batteries last 0-10 minutes since they are 2 decades old, or were stolen to be used in cars and motorcycles. During power outages, the cable infrastructure in my area continued to work.
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tiger72
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Saint Louis, MO
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said by N3OGH :FYI it might be a good idea to pick up a fairly robust UPS for just such a situation. I keep my DSL modem and wireless router behind a UPS and it rand for hours during our last power outage. Might not be a bad idea, depending on how often your power goes out. I bought all of it when I was using VoIP to keep my voice communications up during outages. I'm back on POTS now, but I still have the equipment. I've never lived in a town where power outages happen on sunny days with no notice or reason. I may just have to invest in a UPS =\
said by k1ll3rdr4g0n :said by ninjatutle :So much for the android being the savior.. We both know it was only a matter of time. Any service managed by a group of people who believe their sole purpose in life is to line their pockets with your money is bound to be a few "bumps". Yet another win for Windows Mobile, no kill switch, and completely customizable. What else do you need? Are you even reading?
There's no kill switch on tethering apps. They're not killing the apps. They're just removing them from the market for violating the TOS. You can install them without the market very easily. Again, this aint the iPhone. You don't need to have root to install apps. You don't need anything special. I have the tethering app sitting on my phone right now. Essentially, this is NO DIFFERENT than installing an app on your winmo phone. You get the executable and install. Period.
Is that clear enough?
I mean I am all for a open source phone OS, but that is all it should be - if there is money to be made (such as through a "market place") you bet your bottom dollar that the honest customer will be the one to get hurt. We need a third party market place that isn't run by anyone with "interests" with the (I)SP or OS developer for the iPhone, Windows Mobile, and the G1... Again, this aint the iPhone. You don't NEED a marketplace for the G1 to install apps. Find the executable (apk) and install. JUST. LIKE. WINMO.
Just like there are websites like getjar for the java files for dumbphones/featurephones, Android has a number of sites like »www.androidfreeware.org/ that have the apks available for download.
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ptrowski
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Putnam, CT
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