RR User
@rr.com
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Re: Look out...tiered pricing and monthly caps coming !
I was living on the Big Island last summer, several miles south of Hilo. The place we were staying at did not have Broadband, however I have no clue if was available to the area or not.
It wasn't too big of a deal though, since we spent most of our time going to places all over this Big Island and also spent some time in Oahu.
I'm well aware TW services Hawaii, but I had no idea they didn't offer turbo to many people. I'm sure, if there was some motivation for profit, they might upgrade their network to make turbo available to all users if it meant enough people would get bumped to turbo tier.
Does TW experience pretty high penetration rates over there like they do on the mainland? If not, that may be one of the reasons their nodes seem to cover more homes than here. It could also just be the fact that a bunch of neighborhoods, at least in the area I was staying where quite huge in size, but the home density is very low, like one house every few acres. |
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NormanS
Premium,MVM
join:2001-02-14
San Jose, CA
 ·Pacific Bell - SBC
| reply to Mele20
Road Runner, like other ISPs, offers a portal for those who want one, who think that they absolutely need one. No ISP requires the use of their portals. I've been doing fine for seven years without using the SBC Yahoo! (now AT&T Yahoo!) portal.
Many site webmasters only test their site against the two most popular browsers, Mozilla Firefox, and MS Internet Explorer. For various reasons, they ignore the Windows port of Safari, or such alternate browsers as SeaMonkey and K-Melon. When they tag their web site with the notice, "This site works best with Firefox or Internet Explorer", they are not trying to tell you which browser to use, only which browsers they have tested their site against.
ISPs are gearing their service to folks like my ex-girlfriend, my cousin, and his wife and father-in-law. They don't care about us, because they know we can figure out how to make their connection work without their portal, or their crap applications.
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NSA_CIA
@charter.com
1 edit | reply to Mele20
Big difference between transport bandwidth and last mile bandwidth.
Hawaii has plenty of transport and not enough last mile. So what punker said is true.
...and no punker doesn't work for TWC |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| reply to Anonymous_
Not true. We have tons of available bandwidth. Perhaps bandwith is limited on some other islands of which you have knowledge but NOT true since 2002 for the state of Hawaii. Do a little research before you make statements like that. Through your ignorance of bandwidth conditions in this state you are supporting Oceanic TW's decision to screw the users here. Do you work for TW? It is not surprising that the WORST broaband ISP in the nation would decide to screw it users and hope for ignorance like yours to support their greedy, grubby hands.
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs: | reply to Mele20
internet is in limited supply on a island |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| reply to RR User
said by RR User :
Or my other idea... why doesn't TW just force everyone consuming over 40GB a month onto the Turbo tier. I would imagine there are quite a few people out there on standard that would get placed on Turbo for this reason, and TW would make an instant profit, while the user just has to pony up an extra 10-20 a month to continue using their connection the way they are accustom to.
I'd have no problem with that.
That's easy to answer. It's because there is NO turbo! I can't get turbo ....no one outside of Oahu can and only a small area of Oahu has it available. Oceanic TW can't even give the standard 5ms down currently on the neighbor islands. That taxes their network too much so we sure aren't going to have turbo at 8ms down or turbo extreme at 15ms down for a LONG time.
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"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason |
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RR User
@rr.com
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Or my other idea... why doesn't TW just force everyone consuming over 40GB a month onto the Turbo tier. I would imagine there are quite a few people out there on standard that would get placed on Turbo for this reason, and TW would make an instant profit, while the user just has to pony up an extra 10-20 a month to continue using their connection the way they are accustom to.
I'd have no problem with that. |
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RR User
@rr.com
| reply to Anonymous_
It's a shame they can't do what Comcast did, and institute a reasonable 250GB cap or so... assuming as the years progress the cap gets raised to support the growing sizes of common files like pictures and video.
But we all know that TW has their chunky, grubby, greedy hands latched onto this idea of metered billing. I'm actually in the process of writing them a letter with an idea that could have customers and TW meet in some "middle ground". Personally, I say offer RR lite, basic, standard and Turbo with or without metered billing. Give customers the choice to decide which they want. The only difference being that the metered packages are priced below the un-metered, and customers can vote with their wallet.
It's a huge stretch, or wishful thinking, but one can only try. |
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Toby983
join:2004-10-01
1 edit | reply to Anonymous_
^Caps that small will never happen - what they're actually doing IMO is softening everyone up (that is current and new TW customers) for the mass acceptance of the real caps that will likely be around 100-300GB monthly (for average bandwidth users), but at a higher cost than prices are currently. They know full well where the web is going and if they tossed out a 10-50GB cap they KNOW there would be mass-defection. That's why they're trying to work in new contracts for initial low pricing but the the caveat of a termination fee if you cancel with that low price. |
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Anonymous_
Anonymous
Premium
join:2004-06-21
127.0.0.1
clubs:
 ·RoadRunner Cable
·Time Warner Cable
 ·Time Warner VOIP
3 edits | reply to Matt
said by Matt  :said by WyckedKnight :With the news that Senator Charles Schumer is going to speak watch TWC do some major back peddling as Schumer can generate allot of press on the national level as well. But i have a feeling it won't end the caps, but maybe increase them to a higher level. just a weird feeling i have. I wouldn't mind the caps if they were raised to a reasonable level, ala Comcast's 250GB. 5,10,20,40GB is just insulting. 5,10,20,40GB is just insulting.
500GB would be reasonable
1,000GB in Areas that have competition or unlimited
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Hevans1944
@rr.com
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Gee, didn't we used to pay by the minute for long-distance telephone service? Someone should inform the suits at TWC that 20th century rate structures don't fly well over the 21st century Information Highway. My city, Dayton, Ohio, now offers free wireless broadband to anyone suitably located near the downtown area. Clark Howard got it right: TWC is afraid everyone will cancel their cable TV over-priced services and watch TV via the Internet and Hulu (or whatever). Imagine that! Next thing you know they'll "discover" you can make free telephone calls via the Internet. As someone said a decade or so ago, "packets is packets" no matter what they contain.  |
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NSA_CIA
@charter.com
| reply to pspcrazy
said by pspcrazy :Sucks to know that TWC will be droppng docsis 3, was looking forward to it. TWC isn't dropping DOCSIS 3.
It was just inferred to be a part of the Metered Bandwidth plans in those areas the trials were going to be.
TWC never said what was happening to the DOCSIS 3 plans in other areas. |
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pspcrazy
Anime Freak
join:2008-02-06
San Diego, CA | reply to NSA_CIA
I agree with you lol but he's funny lol so i'll give him some lol's.
Sucks to know that TWC will be droppng docsis 3, was looking forward to it. |
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NSA_CIA
@charter.com
| reply to Mele20
said by Mele20 :I got this at your link: "This site was designed to work best with Firefox 3, or Internet Explorer 6 or higher. Click on either one to download it for free" My ISP has no business telling me what browser I can use. What a bunch of clowns! They aren't telling you what browser to use, they are informing visitors what browsers work best with the features on their site.
Get over it, the world doesn't revolve around YOU. |
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Mele20
Premium
join:2001-06-05
Hilo, HI
| reply to Racerbob
I got this at your link:
"This site was designed to work best with Firefox 3, or Internet Explorer 6 or higher.
Click on either one to download it for free"
My ISP has no business telling me what browser I can use. What a bunch of clowns! I never visit the RR portal (garbage site) and I only visited this link to see what was said. I just want my ISP to give me a connection to the internet with no garbage crap included. I want my connection to be reasonably close to the cap (mine never is and TW refuses to fix it), and no usage caps or at least reasonable ones like Comcast. I don't want to be told what browser I can use, or be told I have to have Flash Player or Acrobat Reader or any other crap and PLEASE NO PORTAL. I hate that RR portal.
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"The same ferocity that our founders devoted to protect the freedom and independence of the press is now appropriate for our defense of the freedom of the internet. The stakes are the same: the survival of our Republic". Al Gore, The Assault on Reason |
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