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nongobi

join:2008-12-03
Lafayette, LA

reply to CoxInfoGuy
Re: Cox launches DOCSIS 3.0 in Louisiana

Perhaps a Cox employee here can check into this (I have someone looking into it currently)... when the technician came (and then some other Cox employee came) I asked about the three static IPs. The guy had no idea what I was talking about. Are we suppose to get three IPs with this service?

FourWheelKid

join:2006-03-03
Broussard, LA
reply to CoxInfoGuy
Would be lovely to have...but it's so expensive...I can only hope that the other tiers (premium/premiere/value/etc) are bumped up as well sooner or later.


MJimLay
aka FlexBaud
Premium
join:2004-10-06
Beach Haven
clubs:
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reply to nongobi
said by nongobi See Profile :

I thought if I am hooked up wired to the router then it should be capable of 100mbps internally, or that's what the router can handle? Over wireless it would be less... Perhaps I am wrong.
The WRT54G is actually two pieces of equipment in one. It's a router WITH a 10/100 switch built in. Sure, you can get 100mbps when moving files between computers (using the internal switch) however, the WRT54G only has a Broadcomm 200 Mhz processor and it can only push so much data using NAT.

According to this site, people are reporting around 24Mbit as the norm, of course if you flash with DD-WRT this can improve it a tad, but not by a whole lot

»www.dd-wrt.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=341

wrt54g:
The HTTP speed is max around 3 Mbyte per second on average. (24Mbps)
FTP speed from WAN to LAN around 41 Mbps and from LAN to WAN around 22Mbps

wrt54gl:
The HTTP speed is max around 4 Mbyte per second on average. (32Mbps)
FTP speed from WAN to LAN around 46 Mbps (max average 38 Mbps) and from LAN to WAN around 20Mbps.

Conclusion:
The wrt54gl is much faster and the LAN to WAN speed is low but this seems firmware dependend.


Of course, if you are using more services on your WRT54G, such as Port Forwarding, VPN, WPA/WEP, then your speeds could very as more processing power is needed for these services.

nongobi

join:2008-12-03
Lafayette, LA
reply to FourWheelKid
The tech that was here was talking to the other Cox guy that was here and I caught on they were talking about how the other speeds were getting bumped in the next couple weeks? Take that with a grain of salt though.

nongobi

join:2008-12-03
Lafayette, LA
reply to MJimLay
Thanks, I hooked up a WRT54GS and get a little bit better speeds. I had an extra one laying around. I'll look into getting a better router.

robl27
Premium
join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL
i'm wondering if cox will have a router bundle? maybe i should get telephone at the time to avoid rental fees (ha)

the router says it can handle speeds up to 100/10.

Rob


dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ

reply to robl27
said by robl27 See Profile :

Cox, please don't rip us off JUST because we are NOT lucky enough to have FIOS here.
Its just business rob. no need to offer the "havenots" sweet deals or better speeds. we're the ones that are subsidizing the "haves" with higher prices and slower speeds.
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said by robl27 See Profile :

i'm wondering if cox will have a router bundle? maybe i should get telephone at the time to avoid rental fees (ha)

the router says it can handle speeds up to 100/10.

Rob
you obviously have no clue.
your router has a 10/100 ethernet switch in in. this means that the switch can support *either* 10 megabit ethernet *or* 100 megabit ethernet connections, which is autonegotiated between the switch and the ethernet card on your computer.
this is separate from the wan port on your router. older models may only have a 10meg port, but if you are getting the "premier" speeds, then you have a 100megabit port. however, your actual performance will not be able to hit 100megabit because you are limited by the ram/processor power in your router (which is often underpowered).

if you recall, most users that ordered the 50/5 service from comcast when it first came out required router upgrades. this will more than likely be required by most users who purchase this service from cox. now, if you want to purchase a new router, you can (if you want gigabit lan). or you can keep going with your grumblings, complaining, and misinformation

q.

robl27
Premium
join:2008-07-16
Mary Esther, FL
well, then why did the person with his linksys earlier didn't see full speeds?

does he need to fix it??


acid343211
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Premium
join:2001-08-31
Byron, GA

reply to nolaguyfiber
said by nolaguyfiber :

do you need to have cable and or phone from cox to get the $89.99 price tag?? i have no interest in tv or landline phone
I hope not,
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MJimLay
aka FlexBaud
Premium
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Beach Haven
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reply to robl27
said by robl27 See Profile :

well, then why did the person with his linksys earlier didn't see full speeds?

does he need to fix it??
Huh? Your post confuses me. Okay, as I stated before... the WRT54G (as well as most any home router product) is two products in one. First, it's a router, second it's a switch (10/100 usually) or if it's wireless, then it's three.

So, if your WAN port is 10/100 and the intergrated switch is 10/100... this does NOT mean you will be able to transfer that much bandwidth between WAN and LAN.

The router (WAN) is pretty much a little "computer". It has several tasks. It must do network address translation (NAT) between WAN and LAN, it's also a DHCP Server, a firewall, and if you have wireless, it may encrypt data (WPA/WEP if it has wireless security enabled) and the list goes on, such as port forwarding, VPN, mac filtering, logging, etc. The WRT54G, for example, only has a 200 Mhz processor and either 8 MB or 16 MB Ram, and yet it has to handle all these tasks.. all at the same time.

It's pretty much like putting a broadband connection on a 486 computer. It's only going to be able to push so much data and that's it. Of course, more expensive routers have better processors and more ram. The WRT150N has a 264 Mhz processor and 16 MB Ram for example... therefor, it will perform better than the WRT54G, just as the WRT54GS will perform better than the WRT54G.

Heck, the WRT350N V2.0 router has a 500 Mhz CPU with 32MB Ram in it!

Now, if you transfer files between two computers connected to the router, sure, you'll see the full 10/100 speed, or if you transfer from wireless to a wired computer, you'll again see decent speed (however, it still is somewhat limited to the CPU/RAM in the router, but not as much as network address translation (NAT))


CoxJimR
Premium,VIP
join:2002-01-17
Atlanta, GA

reply to nongobi
said by nongobi See Profile :

... I asked about the three static IPs. ... Are we suppose to get three IPs with this service?
They are dynamic IP's. Static IP's only come with business level service.
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nongobi

join:2008-12-03
Lafayette, LA
Any idea how do I figure out what the three dynamic IPs are?


CoxTech1
VIP
join:2002-04-25
Chesapeake, VA

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reply to nongobi
Unfortunately they would be assigned dynamically, hence the DHCP.

CoxNovaDOC
Premium
join:2008-08-08
reply to CoxInfoGuy
We were able to resolve similar "speed through router issues" with firmware upgrades to the 54G. Before looking into replacing hardware, verify that you have the latest and greatest firmware on the Router.



BillRoland
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join:2001-01-21
Ocala, FL
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reply to CoxInfoGuy
Just curious, what exactly is the benefit of having 3 dynamic IPs, especially if you've got a NAT router out in front?
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tubbynet
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Chandler, AZ
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said by BillRoland See Profile :

Just curious, what exactly is the benefit of having 3 dynamic IPs, especially if you've got a NAT router out in front?
dangle a switch off your cable modem and then you can have your nat router pull an ip and if you had a vonage ata or something like that, you could give it its own dynamic ip without having to play with port forwarding etc...

i would use it to test vpn setups etc, as sometimes nat-transversal isn't always enabled

q.


bbeesley
VIP
join:2003-08-07
Las Vegas, NV

reply to ajwees41
said by ajwees41 See Profile :

there is no 100/100 router yet that I know of.
Sure there are...I have one at my house

»www.juniper.net/us/en/products-s···es/ssg5/


bbeesley
VIP
join:2003-08-07
Las Vegas, NV

reply to BillRoland
said by BillRoland See Profile :

Just curious, what exactly is the benefit of having 3 dynamic IPs, especially if you've got a NAT router out in front?
You would be able to hook up three hosts with an Ethernet switch and not have to do NAT

While not ideal from a security standpoint for the bulk of users, some folks do have a need and we support it.


digiblur
Got Sipura?
Premium
join:2002-06-03
Louisiana


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reply to CoxInfoGuy
According to the cable modem specs its a gigabit capable ethernet port. Any routers out there handle gigabit on the WAN ports?

Best thing to do would be to follow one of those FAQs for building a simple Linux box router. You can pick whatever processor and network cards you want then

There's your answer... greater than 100mbps ... »m0n0.ch/wall/facts.php
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