baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | Personally...
I love caps.
Just kidding, but i know this subject riles people up more than any other on this site.
100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. |
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hayabusa3303
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| said by baineschile  :100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. Even Tw business class has caps of the same usage. so how would business class help again? |
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ropeguru
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| reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. Really?? Lets see, 4GB per movie on average gives a family around 25 movies per month not including anything else they might want to download. So a family that likes to watch different movies at the same time, like to play online games which require large downloads at times, and do web browsing and maybe upload pictures of the family to a web site should be on a business class account or they are just pirates stealing from others.
I like your thoughts. NOT! Maybe you should go to work for these crooked companies. I am sure they would love to have you. |
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hayabusa3303
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| said by ropeguru :said by baineschile :100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. I like your thoughts. NOT! Maybe you should go to work for these crooked companies. I am sure they would love to have you. Then when there numbers go down so much between disconnects and non payments for over usage they will FIRE HIS ASS and say we made a mistake. |
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n2jtx
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said by baineschile :100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. Unfortunately, arbitrary caps are are just that. 100GB is good for you and someone else might be happy 10GB meaning you are going to have to pay. Another person might prefer 250GB and wonder how you can justify 100GB. Just picking random numbers out of a hat is not going to please everyone.
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jadebangle
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said by baineschile :I love caps. Just kidding, but i know this subject riles people up more than any other on this site. 100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. why not give us a choice of say 5.00 a month metered 1 dollar per gb or 19.95 a month unlimited?
with metered method i'm sure they would make a lot more money *major scam* the way they like it. metered doesn't suit most of us! |
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rawwhide
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1 edit | reply to hayabusa3303
Business wouldn't help any. Caps are nothing but a money grab. If these companies wanted metering as they claim, there would be one price per gig with no limits. That is true metered billing. Imposing caps is just to prevent the mass exodus of video users moving over to internet ONLY. Leaving there old business model of 190-300 channels of junk you don't really want to see. In some cases you don't even get that many channels of television to watch.
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morbo
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10-100GB caps?? unbelievable.
anything less than 250GB caps that are adjusted upward annual (for usual increase in consumption) is a complete money grab by these corporations. |
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nunyabiz
@applsys.com
| reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :I love caps. Just kidding, but i know this subject riles people up more than any other on this site. 100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. My grandpa only uses 100 meg a month, and he says above that you are either a pirater, or need the business class. |
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psx_defector
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| reply to ropeguru
said by ropeguru :Really?? Lets see, 4GB per movie on average gives a family around 25 movies per month not including anything else they might want to download Streams from Netflix et. al. are NOT 4GB of data. Even in HD.
4GB is what you get after you rip a DVD, with all it's extraneous "extras" that don't contribute to the movie itself. And if the stream contains that data, it's grossly misconfigured.
More than 100GB, even in a "busy household", has a lot of piracy involved. Don't kid yourself. |
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Frank
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| reply to baineschile
said by baineschile :I love caps. 100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. you sound like bill gates when talking about ram
"640K ought to be enough for anybody"
or how about this one from ken olsen, founder and ceo of DEC
"There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home".
just because YOU cant fathom of a way to legally use up more than 100GB in a month does not mean that this is the case for everybody 
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AVonGauss
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| reply to hayabusa3303
said by hayabusa3303 :Even Tw business class has caps of the same usage. so how would business class help again? Time Warner business service does not have a stated cap that I am aware of. |
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hayabusa3303
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| said by AVonGauss :said by hayabusa3303 :Even Tw business class has caps of the same usage. so how would business class help again? Time Warner business service does not have a stated cap that I am aware of. Not right now they dont but there will be soon if this cancer keeps growing it will.
In the long run they will have caps, on business class so they can put the screws to them also. |
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baineschile
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1 edit | reply to ropeguru
What family watches 25 movies a month!!! Even if netflix streams ran that high (which they dont), that is still a riduculous amount of movies. I dont even think 25 movies come out every month, and if youre watching repeats, might as well invest in a 40$ DVD player. |
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baineschile
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Sterling Heights, MI | reply to n2jtx
Because normal internet activities wont ever take the average user above 10 gigs/month. 100gigs is being generous to the sling box/netflix users. |
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baineschile
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2 edits | reply to Frank
I never said that it shouldnt be looked at and evaluated eventually. But 100gigs/month is plenty for this day and age. I can fathom lots of ways to use it; I myself have a slingbox, play on xbox live a lot, and use the netflix streaming service. I also use iTunes, but not as much as I used to. I work from home 3 days a week and connect to my works VPN, and send a lot of data files over the POP server. I consider myself a moderate to heavy user, and in a HEAVY month of mine, I use about 40-50gigs.
I can fathom downloading all recently released blurays, a few times from any one of the torrent trackers, but that doesnt mean I choose to. |
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Skippy25
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Hazelwood, MO | Well there you go Frank, Baineschile has spoken and so it is so.
Moderator, you can now lock this thread as the discussion is over. |
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benc
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| reply to hayabusa3303
said by hayabusa3303 :said by baineschile :100gigs and above is reasonsable for a cap. Above that, you are either a pirater, or need the business class. Even Tw business class has caps of the same usage. so how would business class help again? Oh?
As far as I know there's no such thing as "business class" that also has caps. However, I could be wrong since I not aware of the offerings from every single last company.
I thought the idea was that customers would be faced with these choices:
- Use "Residential class" Internet, which has caps and makes heavy use of video impossible.
- Plus use cable TV to get the video.
OR...
- Don't use cable TV.
- Use "Business class" Internet, which has no caps and costs more.
- Viola! The company gets your money anyway.
Now, faced with those choices I think using the "Business class" without the cable TV is still better, since it means more control over what you see. Plus it means that there aren't restrictions that the "Residential service" has, making it more flexible.
But....I think it's pretty much the money, or trying to raise the ARPU. |
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enigma69
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maybe 100gigs is enough for you.
with my netflix streaming service and xbox 360 live account
game demos and online play.
plus normal usage I go over 100gigs every month easily without any piracy.
I'm just glad I'm on cablevision and they won't dare go to metered billing unless verizon fios switches to it. Which isn't expected.
Just because the cap is within the average user range does not mean the charges are justified. It's just a money grab, and they want to crush competators like netflix, etc plain and simple |
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swintec
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said by psx_defector :Streams from Netflix et. al. are NOT 4GB of data. Even in HD. They are pretty darn close at 3 gigs in HD format. Around 2 gigs for standard definition. »Netflix: $.05 to Deliver Movie Stream? .
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