Topic 'Fuzzy math?' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Fuzzy-math-22191244 en Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:01:07 EDT Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:01:07 EDT Re: Fuzzy math? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22221282
Look at the Verizon FIOS example. While Verizon actually went against the grain and was looking long-term in regards to their infrastructure, a lot of their stockholders had a fit because it could ding their share price in the short term...never mind how it could help them long term....]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22221282 Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:16:22 EDT Re: Fuzzy math? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22194090 said by vpoko:

said by BF69:

who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month.
Doesn't it work out to $8.00 a month?
It's in poor taste to interrupt nonsensical rantings with facts or logic.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22194090 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:07:13 EDT Re: Fuzzy math? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22192990 said by BF69:

who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month.
Doesn't it work out to $8.00 a month?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22192990 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:02:49 EDT Re: Fuzzy math? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22192652 said by BF69:

50% whose fault is that?
That's just the nature of the industry... look around at the major cable companies quarterly reports. Some have a few points higher, some a few lower.

Some people just don't want to pay for cable, TV, or broadband. That's why roof antennas and dial-up still have a huge number of users. That's also why a 2nd cable company or overbuilder often fails, there just aren't enough customers willing to fork over the dough to support the costs.

Modems do cost money especially in when you buy thousands or millions, so does ADDITIONAL support costs for a NEW product or standard.

These are all still large UPFRONT costs that need LOANS to finance for repayment LATER. Great time for that sort of financial activity to happen...]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22192652 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:11:35 EDT Re: Fuzzy math? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22192349 said by JoesphM :

The companies who service maybe 50% of the homes in an area with maybe 30% of those having modem service. So out of 100 homes, 15 might have service.

So that $100 per home passed costs are $1500 per active modem customer.

Not including modems for customers, tech support, or tech training.
50% whose fault is that? If you have a better product than the competition at a competitive price you WILL be successful. If you can't even get half then it's YOU that is at fault. All those others cost you mention are just bullshit. Those costs have already been factored in. What before now that company didn't train it's people or have tech support? Modems don't cost shit. Those companies get them at a discount so they arne't paying what you would pay at wal-mart. Not to mention they charge their customers for those modems. Those companies make the money back on those modems within a year.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22192349 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:23:35 EDT Re: Fuzzy math? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22192305 said by BillRoland:

said by BF69:

said by jester121:

$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant?

It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question.
who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month. Over 25 years it's 33 cetns a month. Big whoop. In my book that's practically nothing.
Who cares? The companies having to fork over the $100 up front per house care. What an idiotic statement.
sorry if a company can't afford that maybe they should be in business? what's with the welfare attitude towards business? No welfare for people, incompetent business people? Sure all the welfare we can give them.

$100 per house is NOTHING. How much did Verizon pay per house for FiOS? 25X that or more? quit making excuses for business people that suck at business.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22192305 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:17:57 EDT Re: Fuzzy math? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22192009 said by jester121:

$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant?

It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question.
The biggest problems here is not population density, customer penetration, age of the plant, or cost of materials.

It's unions, executive compensation, CEO compensation, and board members.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22192009 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:27:09 EDT Re: Fuzzy math? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22191901
So that $100 per home passed costs are $1500 per active modem customer.

Not including modems for customers, tech support, or tech training.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22191901 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 12:23:48 EDT Re: Fuzzy math? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22191509 said by BF69:

said by jester121:

$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant?

It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question.
who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month. Over 25 years it's 33 cetns a month. Big whoop. In my book that's practically nothing.
Who cares? The companies having to fork over the $100 up front per house care. What an idiotic statement.
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$20 per home passed vs $100 is a pretty silly comparison to make unless it's apples/apples; what are the differences in materials/labor here vs. there? How many customers are served out of a single facility there vs. here? How old is the physical plant?

It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question.
who gives a shit even if it's $100 per house? Over a year year period that amounts to 83 cents a month. Over 25 years it's 33 cetns a month. Big whoop. In my book that's practically nothing.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Fuzzy-math-22191428 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:52:26 EDT Fuzzy math? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Fuzzy-math-22191244
It's a nice glaring headline but it's a pretty leading question.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Fuzzy-math-22191244 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:20:08 EDT