buckeyered
Premium
join:2005-05-07
Hamilton, OH
 ·VoicePulse
·QuantumVoice
| DSL speeds with voip
I may be switching back to DSL now that Cincibell offers naked DSL. They advertise 5Mbps down and 768Kbps up, will the speeds suffice if I get close to them?
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'If you change phone numbers one more time I am leaving you.' - My wife |
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RockyBB
Premium
join:2005-01-31
Longmont, CO | way more than enough. I've got a customer on 256 x 256 and he does fine. be sure you have a QOS router if you do a lot of downloading or have multiple PCs connected. |
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dcdeadbeat
join:2008-10-07
Washington, DC
 ·Covad Communications
| reply to buckeyered
Technically you could do a VOIP call on a dialup or even an ISDN line. It's not really the speed that is the issue; be more concerned with latency and line quality.
What happens when you have a lot of latency or lag? You get jitter issues (or lost bits of the conversation). Remember when cell phones used to cut out? That can happen to VOIP calls as well.
DSL is generally better than cable modems in terms of latency. However, I have experienced some horrible DSL connections.
In case you are wondering about speed, I have installed offices with 20 concurrent phone calls on a single T1 (1.5Mbps) line. It works because T1s have low latency than either cable modems or DSL. |
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buckeyered
Premium
join:2005-05-07
Hamilton, OH
·VoicePulse
·QuantumVoice
| reply to buckeyered
Well Cincibell made an offer the wife would not let me pass up, I was going to get naked DSL at 40.00 with no rate lock in but then they said I could get the lite phone line with very basic features with unlimited local and 30 long distance minutes with the regular 5Mbps DSL with a lifetime price lock of 55.00 (sure they will just add another tax when they want more money) and the wife said she wants it again now that our daughter is growing so I went along and ordered it for them and I will keep using my voip accounts and FN for the wife's Philippine calls. With tax it comes out to 63.00. Now I need to wire the house back up but I would like to move the pots splitter higher on the house to prevent thieves from cutting the line since I will use it for the alarm as well.
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'If you change phone numbers one more time I am leaving you.' - My wife |
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dcdeadbeat
join:2008-10-07
Washington, DC
·Covad Communications
| said by buckeyered  :Well Cincibell made an offer the wife would not let me pass up, I was going to get naked DSL at 40.00 with no rate lock in but then they said I could get the lite phone line with very basic features with unlimited local and 30 long distance minutes with the regular 5Mbps DSL with a lifetime price lock of 55.00 (sure they will just add another tax when they want more money) and the wife said she wants it again now that our daughter is growing so I went along and ordered it for them and I will keep using my voip accounts and FN for the wife's Philippine calls. With tax it comes out to 63.00. Now I need to wire the house back up but I would like to move the pots splitter higher on the house to prevent thieves from cutting the line since I will use it for the alarm as well. I would call and negotiate a better rate. I pay $24.95 for 22Mbps down/4Mbps up on my cable modem at home. Even naked DSL here in D.C. from Verizon can be had for $24 for 3Mbps down/1Mbps up.
There is no reason broadband should be as expensive (or vary in price). Take advantage of the bad economy and make them give you a better rate. |
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prestonlewis
Premium,MVM
join:2003-04-13
Sacramento, CA
·VoiceStick
| reply to buckeyered
DSL tends to offer better VOIP than cable since it is not a shared connection like cable internet is. Your 5mbps/768 DSL should work great for VOIP.
With DSL, it's copper to your telco's central office then fiber. With cable, it's a shared connection long before fiber takes over. In general, DSL should offer a better connection for VOIP over cable (again, in most situations, not all). Good luck. |
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buckeyered
Premium
join:2005-05-07
Hamilton, OH
·VoicePulse
·QuantumVoice
1 edit | reply to buckeyered
Well that deal didn't last long, cincibell called today to tell me they are going to charge an additional 3.00 for an unlisted number. When I ordered they agreed to list the name as anything I want so I wouldn't have to pay for an unlisted number and nobody could get my number by my name but by the alias I made up, now they say they will still list the alias I would have to pay 3.00 a month for that. I canceled the installation.
Edit: They called back and offered me naked DSL for 30.00 a month for the first year with one month free so now the installation is back on minus the landline for next Friday. |
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bbear2
join:2003-10-06
Mountain View, CA
| What is "naked DSL"?
They should list your name as first initial, last name and no address for free. As long as you don't have a ultra unique last name you should be ok. Or, ask to put the phone in someone else's name - i.e. your pet or something and just make up a name. Tell them it's not an alias, but a real person who will pay the bill  . |
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buckeyered
Premium
join:2005-05-07
Hamilton, OH
·VoicePulse
·QuantumVoice
| Naked DSL = Internet only, no phone service.
They said anything besides my name as on the bill requires
3.00 a month. It's not worth the hassle and after I told the wife she has to deal with bell not me she said leave things alone. I have spent more time on the phone with bell in one day than I have in all my years combined with voicepulse.
I will give the free month of DSL a try hopefully it is ran better than the phone division.
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'If you change phone numbers one more time I am leaving you.' - My wife |
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bbear2
join:2003-10-06
Mountain View, CA
1 edit | Change the name on your bill .
You are Mr. Buckeyered, are you not? |
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dcdeadbeat
join:2008-10-07
Washington, DC
·Covad Communications
| reply to prestonlewis
said by prestonlewis :DSL tends to offer better VOIP than cable since it is not a shared connection like cable internet is. Your 5mbps/768 DSL should work great for VOIP. With DSL, it's copper to your telco's central office then fiber. With cable, it's a shared connection long before fiber takes over. In general, DSL should offer a better connection for VOIP over cable (again, in most situations, not all). Good luck. That's not always true. DSL is copper to the neighborhood node and then it is either copper or fiber to the telco. Cable is shared cable to the neighborhood node and then fiber to the Internet. But because cable can handle exponentially higher speeds (better shielding than copper) a shared cable is just as good or better than most DSL over copper.
However, it does not really matter whether it is cable or DSL. Both can have good and bad lantency times. A low latency connection is better than a fast connection for VOIP.
So I would try both and cancel within the 30 day cancellation trial periods that most providers give. |
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druber
join:2000-04-11
Marlborough, MA | The issue is not the physical medium. A few heavy users can render a cable node almost unusable. The same is not true with DSL. |
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dcdeadbeat
join:2008-10-07
Washington, DC
·Covad Communications
| said by druber :The issue is not the physical medium. A few heavy users can render a cable node almost unusable. The same is not true with DSL. DSL advocates would probably agree with you. But in reality, cable has so much bandwidth available to it that this rarely becomes an issue. Maybe if you were in a 65 story building with one cable connection going into it....then yes cable would be an issue.
But my point is that whether on cable or DSL it does not really matter. Both have issues. You really do need to try both IN YOUR AREA |
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