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kieranmullen
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join:2005-12-12
Portland, OR

reply to PX Eliezer

Re: New Betamax Clone Telbo.com Unlimited Calls for $9.95/year

It is Betamax. They contacted me for a reselling program using an email address which is only used with Betamax and not published.

From another user...
quote:
Dellmont is 100% pure bred Betamax. The responsible guys for this socalled Luxembourg thingy hold addresses in both Cologne Germany, Luxembourg but they are Dutch residing in the Netherlands

The customers database is exactly the same. So is the entire infrastructure. If you want to create a username at Dellmot brands you cannot use any ID that you already use with a Betamax clone.

So its the same crew. So then why Luxembourg? Luxembourg has the lowest VAT in EU. This is probably why Skype is registered there too. Germany had 16% VAT which went up to 19% from 2007. Luxembourg is only 15%. So for competition reasons it will be better with 15% rather than 19%.


soitgoes2
Premium
join:2005-01-14

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said by kieranmullen:

It is Betamax. They contacted me for a reselling program using an email address which is only used with Betamax and not published.
They're quite interesting. Here are their founding documents:
»www.scribd.com/share/upload/1068···xd9x0gwu

Still haven't found the connection with Betamax. I'm working on it.


kieranmullen
Premium
join:2005-12-12
Portland, OR

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IP Whois of
sip.actionvoip.com 77.72.173.198

Shows Finarea
»drlinky.com/39514bc7

sip.telbo.com 77.72.173.198
sip.siptraffic.com resolved to 77.72.168.198 but

Google search 77.72.173.198 and you get
»www.siptraffic.com/index.php?pag···mination

Finally the Bank wire instructions of my dummy siptraffic account also say Finera img.drlinky.com/images/467/Untitled.jpg

Along with the same town, access to reseller database, access to user database (as you cant have the same username as on a clone) These are a number of coincidences no?


soitgoes2
Premium
join:2005-01-14

reply to soitgoes2
So far I haven't found any names in common with Dellmont and Betamax/mmm Projects/M6 Investments. I'm not interested enough to pursue it further. These companies are full of holding companies so tracking down true connections is like a maze.

Betamax's latest financial statement:
»www.unternehmensregister.de/ureg···4511.pdf

For those so inclined:
»www.unternehmensregister.de
»www.rcsl.lu



kieranmullen
Premium
join:2005-12-12
Portland, OR

I made the wire transfer to be one of Telbo's so called "resellers" Much like siptraffic.com voicetrading.com 200/500 they are ridiculously easy to get. Anyway if anyone wants to test the waters I can be found online under the username of kieranmullen in any betamax client (they are all the same and share the same network for calls and chatting so one user of one network can chat another. (I have tested) I am under the reseller name Only_Reseller_Actually_In_USA Yes I can sell credits. NO it is not a source of income for me. Just having fun!


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