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balor

@sbcglobal.net

List of Gateways for top ISP?

Hey, so I've been asked to find a list of the gateways for the top US ISPs. I can find the list of the IPSs but is there any place online, or does anyone here know, what the gateways for those IPS are?

Thanks in Advance!


Fubar

join:2001-02-20
Phoenix, AZ
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What exactly do you mean for gateways?

Cox here in Tucson only probably has 200+ gateways, At least what I refer as the default Gateway(CMTS)IP's...


TherapyChick

join:2003-09-19
Fayetteville, NC

reply to balor
Just check out all the IP's, start at 1.0.0.0 and the last one will be at 255.255.255.254.

You're obviously either a troll or a hacker, I'm guessing troll, so there's a little food for you.
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balor

@sbcglobal.net

reply to balor
Okay, so what you guys are saying is that there is no one Gateway that all traffic goes through per ISP and that depending on your location you'll get a random one?

Sorry, I'm not too technologically savvy about this, so I do appreciate your help.



battleop

join:2005-09-28
00000

What is the context of your question? Are you talking about a gateway as in:

IP: 10.10.10.25
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 10.10.10.1

Or a Gateway as in your ISP's edge router?



aurgathor

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reply to balor

said by balor :

Okay, so what you guys are saying is that there is no one Gateway that all traffic goes through per ISP and that depending on your location you'll get a random one?
Yes, there will be many gateways -- obviously, you don't want customers in L.A. using a gateway in Seattle, or vice versa. But if you have 2 nearby town such S.F. and Oakland, it's possible to use a gateway in the other city. As a matter of fact, previously, I used to use a gateway in Everett, but now I'm using one in Seattle. (I'm between them, but much closer to Everett)

Here are some addresses out of my router:

IPADDR0=71.113.1.x
NETMASK0=255.255.255.0
NETWORK0=71.113.1.0
BRDCAST0=71.113.1.255
GATEWAY=71.113.1.1
DNSADDR=68.238.128.12
DNSADDR1=68.238.64.12
--
And the winner is:


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reply to balor
The gateways in both of my lines tend to vary. For example, on one line, the gateway is dependent on what edge router I'm on as well as what CO I'm coming out of, but on another line, I could be on a variety of gateways that are in my area based on my IP or however the ISP wants to route me. It all depends on how the ISP has things set up. Also, on one ISP, the gateway is only accessible on the network side as the IP address is non-routable (like a LAN address on the internet, that would in no way be routable such as a 192.168.*.* address!), but on the other ISP I use, my Gateway is in fact a routable Internet IP address that I can hit from the outside rather than only inside of my network.



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reply to balor
Just to beat this topic to death. Not only will an ISP have multiple gateways depending on how network is segmented Gateway will most likely be a private IP pulled from RFC 1918 pool. Those addresses are not accessible from the Internet and like residential broadband can be used and reused multiple times.

They have no meaning outside the scope of the ISP network.

/tom



balor

@sbcglobal.net

reply to balor
Okay, maybe I should state why exactly I am asking this and maybe you guys can think of how I can better phrase my question.

We have a website that has a file people download from all across the USA. We want people to be able to have the file be downloaded faster, and so our operations team told us that they want to know the gateways of the top ISPs in the US so they can start doing tests regarding connectivity. Would giving them a random gateway from all the major ISPs do the trick?


DannyZ
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sounds like you are interested in peering points, not gateways



tschmidt
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reply to balor
It appears your operations team has no idea how the Internet works.

If you want to optimize file download you need to geographically disperse your servers and locate them on well peered networks. For example, Google maintains multiple sites around the country.

Unless you are generating that kind of traffic it is probably overkill. Just make sure your server farm is well connected.

/tom
fixed typos



balor

@sbcglobal.net

reply to balor
Okay, a different question. Can you guys recommend a service that has a cluster of servers around the country that would (for a fee) speed test connection to your site/download server and generate the results for you?



rfhar
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Buicktown,Mi

reply to balor
Try this and see if it will do.

»/tools



balor

@sbcglobal.net

reply to balor
Sadly I don't think Tools has what I need, as it needs to test a website (not my machine) from geographically distributed points preferably running off residential ISPs.



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said by balor :

Sadly I don't think Tools has what I need, as it needs to test a website (not my machine) from geographically distributed points preferably running off residential ISPs.
botnet? (Zombie computer)


balor

@sbcglobal.net

reply to balor
Something less expensive/illegal to setup?



no_one

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reply to balor
Have the file hosted by a cloud network like Amazon S3 cloud has. Or any other cloud hosting service.


iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
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Dead thread I know, but sounds like the OP needs a CDN. Amazon, Softlayer (via InterNAP), SingleHop (via Panther Express), Rackspace (via LimeLight) and SimpleCDN are all options.


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