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Doctor Four
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Re: stupid pirates

His post title is also wrong. Real pirates don't share what they get with anyone else (except of course their own shipmates). They certainly wouldn't do so with complete strangers.

Real pirates are the kind that attacked ships and took hostages off Somalia recently.

Furthermore, saying TPB is stealing is not only wrong (they only have metadata, no files), but the use of that word demonstrates a clear inability to do anything other than parrot media cartel propaganda.

Hope he enjoys his MAFIAA Koolaid...
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said by Doctor Four:

His post title is also wrong. Real pirates don't share what they get with anyone else (except of course their own shipmates). They certainly wouldn't do so with complete strangers.

Real pirates are the kind that attacked ships and took hostages off Somalia recently.
My friend Webster says that a pirate is someone who commits or practices piracy. He then says that piracy, among other things, is the unauthorized use of another's production, invention, or conception especially in infringement of a copyright. Seems to me like a file sharing pirate fits the definition of a pirate, just not necessarily of the swashbuckling type.


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Downloading copyrighted material is not copyright infringement, piracy, nor is it theft.



PaulHikeS2

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said by PQN01900 :

Downloading copyrighted material is not copyright infringement, piracy, nor is it theft.
Correct. Only unauthorized downloading of copyrighted material fits those definitions.
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said by PaulHikeS2:

said by PQN01900 :

Downloading copyrighted material is not copyright infringement, piracy, nor is it theft.
Correct. Only unauthorized downloading of copyrighted material fits those definitions.
Which still makes it illegal and should carry stiff penalties.


PaulHikeS2

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said by Nightfall:

said by PaulHikeS2:

said by PQN01900 :

Downloading copyrighted material is not copyright infringement, piracy, nor is it theft.
Correct. Only unauthorized downloading of copyrighted material fits those definitions.
Which still makes it illegal and should carry stiff penalties.
That's my point. I download copyrighted material all of the time, which is not illegal because my downloads are authorized. Downloading copyrighted material is not illegal, only unauthorized downloading is.
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said by Doctor Four:

Furthermore, saying TPB is stealing is not only wrong (they only have metadata, no files), but the use of that word demonstrates a clear inability to do anything other than parrot media cartel propaganda.
I'm sorry, but their choice of names ("Pirate"), and providing tools to facilitate the verb form of that word is clear to everyone.

Personally, I like the way they're playing into the government's hand. This creates a perfect test case of what constitutes aiding and abetting.

BTW: I'm not a big fan of copyright as it stands now. I believe copyright is a social moderation to natural contract law, and that it was originally intended to benefit society in return for moderating the common law. That benefit was "fair use" and "public domain" (making society the ultimate owner).

The way copyright durations have extended to 5-10 times longer than they were 20-30 years ago, society is being shortchanged for its involvement in what should be a private transfer of property.

I can see piracy as a form of civil disobedience. But, most people engaging in piracy aren't thinking in such terms of reform. They just want stuff for free. I guess we could say that the imbalance in copyright is a direct result of the imbalance of civic virtue among the people today.

Mark

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