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consumers in the Rochester area would flock to a service that offers the better services, lower fees, and unlimited fast bandwidth that Verizon FIOS offers. Maybe they would and maybe they wouldn't. But if the web site owner thinks there is such a massive number of people ready to jump on the fiber bandwagon, why doesn't he put that effort in to starting up his own fiber competitor in the area. Even in this rough economy there is still a lot of venture capital out there for the taking. Maybe he should get some and start his own competitive fiber service.
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| But if the web site owner thinks there is such a massive number of people ready to jump on the fiber bandwagon, why doesn't he put that effort in to starting up his own fiber competitor in the area. ...and on the next edition of Impractical Solutions To Modern Problems, host TK Junkmail explores how opponents of the U.S. occupation of Iraq can stop the war by standing naked in front of American tanks wearing nothing but hand grenades and Fruit of The Loom briefs... |
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| said by Karl Bode:But if the web site owner thinks there is such a massive number of people ready to jump on the fiber bandwagon, why doesn't he put that effort in to starting up his own fiber competitor in the area. ...and on the next edition of Impractical Solutions To Modern Problems, host TK Junkmail explores how opponents of the U.S. occupation of Iraq can stop the war by standing naked in front of American tanks wearing nothing but hand grenades and Fruit of The Loom briefs... It worked for Gandhi, minus the hand grenades, of course.
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said by Karl Bode:But if the web site owner thinks there is such a massive number of people ready to jump on the fiber bandwagon, why doesn't he put that effort in to starting up his own fiber competitor in the area. ...and on the next edition of Impractical Solutions To Modern Problems, host TK Junkmail explores how opponents of the U.S. occupation of Iraq can stop the war by standing naked in front of American tanks wearing nothing but hand grenades and Fruit of The Loom briefs... I believe that would work, if they were willing to go to Iraq, sadly most of them are more worried about where they will get their next mocha latte.
On a more serious note, per byte billing is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when.
It is important to remember what happens when the incumbents manage to wrest control from all competitors. Sometimes I wonder that people can be so quick to forget why AT&T was broken up into the "baby bells", and that people can so easily deceive themselves.
Karl, honestly, is it fair for one man to pay another man's bills? Do you think that we should average everyone's electric bill and make everyone pay the same? Walmart is gonna love that!
It is neither fair nor right to ask the little old lady who is checking her E-Mail of a fixed budget to pay for someone else's file sharing binge.
The picture here at DSLR is somewhat skewed by the fact that we are all very heavy users of this Internet, so naturally we all want someone else to carry our freight. |
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djeremy
join:2004-07-12
San Francisco, CA | reply to Karl Bode
bwahahahah!
loved that. |
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 a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY
 ·Cingular Wireless
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said by fAcEtIOUs:said by Karl Bode:But if the web site owner thinks there is such a massive number of people ready to jump on the fiber bandwagon, why doesn't he put that effort in to starting up his own fiber competitor in the area. ...and on the next edition of Impractical Solutions To Modern Problems, host TK Junkmail explores how opponents of the U.S. occupation of Iraq can stop the war by standing naked in front of American tanks wearing nothing but hand grenades and Fruit of The Loom briefs... It worked for Gandhi, minus the hand grenades, of course. Uhhh.... sure, if you ignore millions of youth taking to the streets, and creating violent uprisings in every major British outpost in the whole country..... fail |
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KearnstdElf WizardPremium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ | reply to fAcEtIOUs
im sure TWC would tie up any local brew fiber in court for years to come. even if private funded from someone not big and powerful like Verizon they would find a way to tie it up in the system.
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 espaethDigital PlumberPremium,MVM
join:2001-04-21
Minneapolis, MN
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·Clear Wireless
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said by fAcEtIOUs:Even in this rough economy there is still a lot of venture capital out there for the taking. Maybe he should get some and start his own competitive fiber service. It shouldn't be that hard to get VC dollars when they have a profit margin of 1000-1500% on bandwidth! </sarcasm> |
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a333A hot cup of integrals please
join:2007-06-12
Rego Park, NY Reviews:
·Cingular Wireless
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Eh, I suggest that you be VERY careful when comparing electricity to broadband. You see, electricity is a UTILITY. Do you really want to make broadband a utility?
Secondly, if you're going to make this based on the electricity analogy, there should be a low price (say $15/month) that pays for the connection itself, and 50 GB of transfer. On top of that, overages should be say $0.25/10 GB. (Yes, some here will complain that there are "LAST MILE COSTS", but isn't that what the first $15/month is going into? Think about your electricity analogy here... I pay a basic line charge for the connection to the grid, and then I pay for whatever KWh I use.)
If a puny little Canadian DSL provider like TekSavvy can do this, I see no reason for a megacorp like Time Warner Cable to not follow the lead. Finally, if I'm paying for every bit I use, I BETTER not be getting ads or popups/spam emails, that use up any part of my cap. Also, usage during night time (i.e. off-peak hours) should be unmetered and uncapped. To me, that sounds like an actually viable plan that can make sure light users see REDUCED bills, while heavy downloaders help pay for network upgrades to support their habits. |
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 en102Canadian, eh?
join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA | reply to Kearnstd
This may be a time for Frontier to at least start deploying FTTN. If they have a time to do anything.. it is now. |
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RadioDoc58ef2c0Premium,ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-05-11 | reply to AnonDog
I'll say it again: If it is good for data it is even better for video. I'll gladly move to metered billing for the cable TV I actually watch instead of paying scandalous fees for the 90% I don't.
What we really need is the designation of that wire or fiber coming into every home as a common carrier. Then any ISP who wants to charge $1 per GB or put a 5 GB cap on can truly compete in an open market. |
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Nah, Dog...
If we're all carrying our "freight" light users would have a $5.00 a month bill and heavy users would have a $100 a month bill... Wait, many people DO have $100 a month internet bills while NO-ONE has a $5.00 a month bill. Go figure how THAT works! Here is an example of a company trying to have their cake and eat it too, so to speak... I'm not buying it. |
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 spewakR.I.P DadkinsPremium
join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA
kudos:1
·Clear Wireless
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said by fAcEtIOUs:said by Karl Bode:But if the web site owner thinks there is such a massive number of people ready to jump on the fiber bandwagon, why doesn't he put that effort in to starting up his own fiber competitor in the area. ...and on the next edition of Impractical Solutions To Modern Problems, host TK Junkmail explores how opponents of the U.S. occupation of Iraq can stop the war by standing naked in front of American tanks wearing nothing but hand grenades and Fruit of The Loom briefs... It worked for Gandhi, minus the hand grenades, of course. Minus the Fruit of the Loom briefs also Tk.
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spewakR.I.P DadkinsPremium
join:2001-08-07
Elk Grove, CA
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said by en102:This may be a time for Frontier to at least start deploying FTTN. If they have a time to do anything.. it is now. That is exactly what they did here in Elk Grove, Ca.. And pretty much like the article states, the most a subscriber can get for download speed is 6megs. Frontier is not much better than TW at disguising their utter contempt and sheer desire to gouge the consumer.
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JPLPremium
join:2007-04-04
Downingtown, PA
kudos:1 | reply to fAcEtIOUs
said by fAcEtIOUs:» www.verizonfiber.com/Default.aspxconsumers in the Rochester area would flock to a service that offers the better services, lower fees, and unlimited fast bandwidth that Verizon FIOS offers. Maybe they would and maybe they wouldn't. But if the web site owner thinks there is such a massive number of people ready to jump on the fiber bandwagon, why doesn't he put that effort in to starting up his own fiber competitor in the area. Even in this rough economy there is still a lot of venture capital out there for the taking. Maybe he should get some and start his own competitive fiber service. Whether they flock to FiOS or not is actually beside the point. Since it appears that these caps only exist in areas where FiOS isn't, wouldn't it stand to reason that having FiOS in the city would create an incentive for TWC to eliminate or reduce those caps? Why, they may even be incentivized to expedite the roll-out of DOCSIS 3.0. Consumers would be served even if they didn't move over to FiOS. |
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