Topic 'Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks??' in forum '' - dslreports.com http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22214604 en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:05:29 EDT Sat, 11 Feb 2012 14:05:29 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22221414
You are 100% wrong but feel free to run wild with your dillusion.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22221414 Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:57:25 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22221291 said by insomniac84:

said by pleasiasarus :

Yep, neo-cons er.. cons in general are placing all their chips on an attack.
It is all they have ... sadly.
:(
They are playing politics. If there is no attack and they did nothing but cry that attack was imminent for four years, they will say left overs from bush kept us safe. If some kind of attack does happen, they will say Obama ruined the safety of this country and is directly responsible for it.
Bush planted the bombs in the WTC and blew up the levies in New Orleans according to the liberals.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22221291 Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:18:18 EDT Re: Labor Negotiations http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Labor-Negotiations-22218551 said by dentman42:

Diplomacy: The art of saying "Nice Doggy" until you can find a big rock.
Diplomacy: The misguided idea that humans are rational beings who can get along with eachother.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Labor-Negotiations-22218551 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:17:17 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22218532 said by puck0114:

I think recent history has shown that fear-mongering is rarely useful.
I disagree, if anything the past 8 years have shown how useful fear-mongering really is. Sure, it's wearing off FOR NOW, but just wait 10 years and do it again and you'll be able to use it to get all sorts of laws passed again.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22218532 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 22:12:52 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22217870 in fact the local guys are somewhat scarier, "just doing it for america", have people forgotten Mcvay already?]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22217870 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:02:21 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22217457 http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22217457 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:45:57 EDT Re: Labor Negotiations http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Labor-Negotiations-22217324 said by myokitis:

I'm sure the ongoing negotiations have absolutely nothing to do with this incident. To paraphrase Clausawitz, "War is diplomacy by other means."

A dumb tactic, but one that has been used before.
Diplomacy: The art of saying "Nice Doggy" until you can find a big rock.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Labor-Negotiations-22217324 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:17:29 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22217316 said by digitalfreak:

I'm beginning to suspect that the person behind the TKJunkMail moniker is really Dick "WMD" Cheney. It's all starting to make sense now...
I think his username is very appropriate. He's about as useful and welcome as junk mail.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22217316 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 18:15:09 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22217156 --
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Yep, neo-cons er.. cons in general are placing all their chips on an attack.
It is all they have ... sadly.
:(
They are playing politics. If there is no attack and they did nothing but cry that attack was imminent for four years, they will say left overs from bush kept us safe. If some kind of attack does happen, they will say Obama ruined the safety of this country and is directly responsible for it.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22216109 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:32:09 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22216091 said by ThrowDemsOut:

But terrorist cells couldn't possibly be in the U.S., right?
»voices.washingtonpost.com/securi···911.html Nice hogwash. That is pure FUD. Even if our crucial systems are hooked up to the internet for anyone to break into, this isn't 24. An outside hacker can't override people physically in the building. Nor can he prevent the connection from being cut off to stop them.

From what I have heard(I think maybe on an NPR interview with some top official) the maximum damage a hacker could do is turn the power off. The outage would last for minutes since the people physically there can turn it on and cut off out side access. Then of course once the first station is hit, the rest would cut off their outside access and therefore this crazy terrorist country wide way of life ending plot becomes a 5 minutes black out in one single power station within the entire country. Clearly, it's time to round up the Chinese and send them all to Guantanamo. We could never ever survive such a plot.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22216091 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:29:32 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22215611 It is all they have ... sadly.
:(]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22215611 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 12:56:49 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22215443 said by backfeed:

I am a huge fan of technology. I also am growing concerned about how dependent we have become on it. This incident proves how easy it can be for a simple act to take out major chunks of the technology we use/need/want.
The Washington Post internet reporter agrees with you:
»voices.washingtonpost.com/securi···911.html
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A dumb tactic, but one that has been used before.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Labor-Negotiations-22215071 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:14:36 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22215060
Seriously, when people start living their lives in so much fear that every little thing sounds like a terrorist plot, the terrorists have truly won.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22215060 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:13:07 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22215051 said by ThrowDemsOut:

said by puck0114:

Your supposition sounds a lot like fear-mongering. I think recent history has shown that fear-mongering is rarely useful.
»www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop···ers.html

But terrorist cells couldn't possibly be in the U.S., right?
but an easter bombing in the uk (where lives would have been lost) is related to the cutting of a fiber optic cable in silicon valley how?
grasping at straws again, tk....

q.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22215051 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:11:07 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22215038 said by puck0114:

Your supposition sounds a lot like fear-mongering. I think recent history has shown that fear-mongering is rarely useful.
»www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop···ers.html

But terrorist cells couldn't possibly be in the U.S., right?
»voices.washingtonpost.com/securi···911.html
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My post was made as supposition. His post was made as if it was a fact.
no, my post involves a similar amount of supposition. the only differences, is when one is based on reality, the supposition generally points one into the direction of sabotage. however, when one is grounded in the "fight terror, defend freedom" paleo-con talking points of yesteryear, people generally tend to think you are talking simply to further your political agenda against a president and legislature that has different beliefs and policies regarding "terrorism". your thinly veiled attempts are easily recognized and spotted.

q]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22214985 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:56:28 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22214964 A has happened before. B has never happened before.

It's just so hard to tell which one is plausible.

Maybe Tk needs to read this.]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22214964 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:52:25 EDT Re: Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22214924 said by puck0114:

Any proof to support this? Or is this just some paranoid imagining? What next, terrorists are responsible for clogging American toilets?
My post was made as supposition. His post was made as if it was a fact.
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(»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor)

so you tell me, which is more likely:
(a) someone trying to get their way in a collective bargaining agreement, given that both sides know *exactly* what fiber bundle it is

(b) some terrorist sleeper cell decides to come out of hiding and sabotage the fiber bundle that services silicon valley, researches the exact location and cuts it just to piss off the "american infidels" when actually silicon valley is not just the american devil anymore!

hmmmm....
call it intuition.

q.
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In my radio communication endeavors I always advise people that are moving to the new digital linked systems to keep the older units as backup for just this type of event.

The thing that concerns me most is the eventuality of an EMP pulse being generated and lack of hardening on most commercial systems. I pray it never happens but...
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nothing more than vandalism. someone trying to get their way and making sure that fiber was cut to make the maximum impact.
selfish, but vandalism nonetheless.
And where is your proof?
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Potential terrorist walk thru for more widespread damage planned against US infrastructure?
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So I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that was just pure vandalism.
mmmm, nothing like paleo-con wet dreams. should we bomb iran now?
come on, tk. i would think given you incredible anti-union bias that you would *jump* at the chance to blame them...oh wait, i forgot which party was in office. obviously they heard gitmo was closed :uhh:

nothing more than vandalism. someone trying to get their way and making sure that fiber was cut to make the maximum impact.
selfish, but vandalism nonetheless.

q.

[edit] spelling ]]> http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Re-Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22214840 Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:31:41 EDT Terrorist dry-run for larger attacks?? http://www.dslreports.com/forum/Terrorist-dryrun-for-larger-attacks-22214604
There are a few dozen choke points in the fiber backbones in the US that are only marginally protected. Those knowing where they are(and many people in the industry and also large national customers know that info) could wreak havoc on the internet and also landline phone systems in the US.

So I wouldn't jump to the conclusion that was just pure vandalism.

P.S.>> News items say the cuts have all been repaired.
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