 Smith6612Premium,MVM
join:2008-02-01
North Tonawanda, NY
kudos:21 | Can't complain. Sure the upstream may be a bit low on this package, but certainly it's nice to see Windstream joining the FTTH bandwagon! |
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| But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better. Even OOL Boost does better. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
 ·Comcast
| They're competing against 1.5 Mbit uploads, and previously 768k was the norm. We're also talking about not-New-Jersey and not-NYC here...personally, I'd be fine giving up 512k of upload speed in exchange for 200% more download speed, a $20 per month lower price than I'm paying now...and no caps! |
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 MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | reply to fifty nine
Re: Can't complain. said by fifty nine:But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better. Even OOL Boost does better. It's all about competition. My FTTH is only 15Mbps down and 2Mbps up, for $69.99 a month. The fastest tier I can purchase from a competitor is 10Mbps/512Kbps from Time Warner. |
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 Mr FelFlynn LivesPremium
join:2008-03-17
Louisville, KY | reply to fifty nine
Right now for the $13 less per month I'm giving to AT&T for dsl I'm getting 1.5/384, I see this as a VAST improvement to local area and I would definitely give out the extra $13 per month if it was available to me. |
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 ·SureWest Internet
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·Comcast
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said by fifty nine:But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better. Even OOL Boost does better. The upload is just as important as download
it isn't anymore useful to have 24/1.5 vs 5/5 for about the same price. Most website won't allow you to download faster then 1.5mbps so its only in rare cases or few place that you can exceed this speed
I'll still prefer 5/5 over 10/1 or 20/2 etc
even 20/5 isn't much better then 5/5
I could probably leech faster occasionally on 20/5 but its not a big deal since I'm not an impatient bastard like few who even think 100/1 is cool with them... who see upload speed as least important.
Too much download speed is useless without decent upload speed to compensate for it...
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MattAll noise, no signal.Premium
join:2003-07-20
Jamestown, NC
kudos:12 | said by jadebangle:said by fifty nine:But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better. Even OOL Boost does better. The upload is just as important as download it isn't anymore useful to have 24/1.5 vs 5/5 for about the same price. Most website won't allow you to download faster then 1.5mbps so its only in rare cases or few place that you can exceed this speed Too much download speed is useless without decent upload speed to compensate for it... Your first statement is absolutely false. Put a 10Mbps or higher line next to a 1.5Mbps line and it's night and day. My 15Mbps fiber line has slightly higher letancy to most sites than my 1.5Mbps Road Runner line, but my fiber line destroys my RR line when comparing browsing speeds. It's night and day.
Your last statement is true however. But 1.5Mbps and up is a good upstream number for the vast majority of people. I only have 2Mbps and while 5Mbps upstream is available to me, 2Mbps is great. |
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said by jadebangle:Most website won't allow you to download faster then 1.5mbps so its only in rare cases or few place that you can exceed this speed Were you serious?
I can easily do 80mbps at Uni from almost any website I travel too (with the exception of a few which I know for a fact are on 10mbit links).
I hate how many people just nonchalantly throw out this statement like we're all still on AOL Dial-Up or something. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
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I'd take 10/5 over 24/1.5 any day of the week. However they're competing with 20/1.5 on a shared (cable) system, so they're clearly the better option 
As for websites, where are you going that only has 1.5 Mbps downloads? I can max out my connection here DL/ULing from my personal site ($7.50 per month is the basic plan...I got a better deal though) and seems like any servers with anything to download these days are on 100 Mbps ports... |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
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Exactly. The "inflection points" on internet these days are 768k (broadband), 1.5 Mbps (more video streaming), 5 Mbps (HD video in some cases) and 15 Mbps (rocking connectivity). If you're moving from one tier to the other it does make a rather big difference. On uploads, 384k, 768k, 1.5-2M and 5M are probably the big ones. |
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Exactly it is ALL about competition, which is why DOCSIS is just fine for most people right now.
FTTH is pretty much a waste at today's speeds. |
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Have to agree here.
When I went to 30Mbps DOCSIS3 it was night and day. Pages loaded instantly, no lag time or waiting. |
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shaw3tna live
join:2009-03-18
Union Bay, BC | reply to Smith6612
SweeT ! I currently just installed Shaw Secure and noticed that my upstream increased from 50 K/Bs to 56.40 K/Bs which might not seem like allot to you gurus but for me it was a big improvement since I like sharing files with my friends photos with the new HP camera I just purchased.
You too can see if you qualify for shaw secure with this Qualifier file »kevinkatovic.blogspot.com/2009/0···ows.html
Good Luck
I guess the big secret is out still waiting for the Bell Nexxia update to be available in my area as a faster alternative to shaw cable. |
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Reminds me of the old saying "Build it and they will come."
In this case the "they" are the applications, users, and legitimate uses that FTTH can bring to the table with the increased innovation.
All of you people that sit here and say "but that much speed will do you no good" or "nobody needs anything that fast" or "what could you legally do with that much speed?" are blind morons. |
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patcat88
join:2002-04-05
Jamaica, NY
kudos:1 | reply to fifty nine
said by fifty nine:Have to agree here. When I went to 30Mbps DOCSIS3 it was night and day. Pages loaded instantly, no lag time or waiting. The bandwidth rarely matters anymore in page loading speed, your browser, your CPU, your RAM, number of files comprising the page (CSS, JS, images, AJAX, iframes), and especially the CPU, DB, and HDs on the website your using. If the CPU stalls on the website or there is disk I/O congestion, there is nothing you can do about that lag. |
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| said by patcat88:said by fifty nine:Have to agree here. When I went to 30Mbps DOCSIS3 it was night and day. Pages loaded instantly, no lag time or waiting. The bandwidth rarely matters anymore in page loading speed, your browser, your CPU, your RAM, number of files comprising the page (CSS, JS, images, AJAX, iframes), and especially the CPU, DB, and HDs on the website your using. If the CPU stalls on the website or there is disk I/O congestion, there is nothing you can do about that lag. Actually on a lot of sites it does matter. Reason being that a lot of sites are full of rich content such as flash and the like. |
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 aaronwtPremium
join:2004-11-07
Woodbridge, VA
 ·Verizon FiOS
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said by iansltx:Exactly. The "inflection points" on internet these days are 768k (broadband), 1.5 Mbps (more video streaming), 5 Mbps (HD video in some cases) and 15 Mbps (rocking connectivity). If you're moving from one tier to the other it does make a rather big difference. On uploads, 384k, 768k, 1.5-2M and 5M are probably the big ones. I'd say 15mbs is very slow. I have a 50mbs line and I'm ready for it to be faster. |
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iansltx
join:2007-02-19
Golden, CO
kudos:2 Reviews:
·Comcast
| What do you do on said 50 Mbps line? What sites can serve up content at the full 50? Not trying to be antagonistic here; I freaking love the connections I get with the VPSes I have (yay $10 per month for 400GB of transfer on a 100Mbit port...plus a 20GB, 512-1024MB RAM server to run on the connection!). Plus the OC3 that my school is on, when it wasn't so overloaded. Looking forward to the gigabit link we'll be getting *any day now* |
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