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<description><![CDATA[fifty nine posted : Except that increased innovation can actually be done with less bandwidth, not more.<br><br>I would rather have more efficient apps on the internet rather than simply throwing more bandwidth at the problem.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:34:36 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[SinNombre posted : Hell, bring it to Charlotte, too and I'll sign up!  I know Windstream is in parts of Charlotte and not my neighborhood, but someone needs to shake things up here.  UVerse is coming out slow and TWC, of course, will never get with it.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:36:51 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[iansltx posted : What do you do on said 50 Mbps line? What sites can serve up content at the full 50? Not trying to be antagonistic here; I freaking love the connections I get with the VPSes I have (yay $10 per month for 400GB of transfer on a 100Mbit port...plus a 20GB, 512-1024MB RAM server to run on the connection!). Plus the OC3 that my school is on, when it wasn't so overloaded. Looking forward to the gigabit link we'll be getting *any day now*]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:22:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[aaronwt posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1440579" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1440579');">iansltx</a>:</small><br><br>Exactly. The "inflection points" on internet these days are 768k (broadband), 1.5 Mbps (more video streaming), 5 Mbps (HD video in some cases) and 15 Mbps (rocking connectivity). If you're moving from one tier to the other it does make a rather big difference. On uploads, 384k, 768k, 1.5-2M and 5M are probably the big ones.<br> </div>I'd say 15mbs is very slow. I have a 50mbs line and I'm ready for it to be faster.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 01:01:54 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[fifty nine posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/611909" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=611909');">patcat88</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/693768" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=693768');">fifty nine</a>:</small><br><br>Have to agree here.<br><br>When I went to 30Mbps DOCSIS3 it was night and day.  Pages loaded instantly, no lag time or waiting.<br> </div>The bandwidth rarely matters anymore in page loading speed, your browser, your CPU, your RAM, number of files comprising the page (CSS, JS, images, AJAX, iframes), and especially the CPU, DB, and HDs on the website your using. If the CPU stalls on the website or there is disk I/O congestion, there is nothing you can do about that lag.<br> </div>Actually on a lot of sites it does matter.  Reason being that a lot of sites are full of rich content such as flash and the like.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 00:14:38 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[patcat88 posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/693768" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=693768');">fifty nine</a>:</small><br><br>Have to agree here.<br><br>When I went to 30Mbps DOCSIS3 it was night and day.  Pages loaded instantly, no lag time or waiting.<br> </div>The bandwidth rarely matters anymore in page loading speed, your browser, your CPU, your RAM, number of files comprising the page (CSS, JS, images, AJAX, iframes), and especially the CPU, DB, and HDs on the website your using. If the CPU stalls on the website or there is disk I/O congestion, there is nothing you can do about that lag.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:51:42 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Skippy25 posted : Reminds me of the old saying "Build it and they will come."<br><br>In this case the "they" are the applications, users, and legitimate uses that FTTH can bring to the table with the increased innovation.<br><br>All of you people that sit here and say "but that much speed will do you no good" or "nobody needs anything that fast" or "what could you legally do with that much speed?" are blind morons.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:53:11 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[shaw3 posted : SweeT ! I currently just installed Shaw Secure and noticed that my upstream increased from 50 K/Bs to 56.40 K/Bs which might not seem like allot to you gurus but for me it was a big improvement since I like sharing files with my friends photos with the new HP camera I just purchased.<br><br>You too can see if you qualify for shaw secure with this Qualifier file &raquo;<A HREF="http://kevinkatovic.blogspot.com/2009/04/shaw-secure-qualifier-for-windows.html" >kevinkatovic.blogspot.com/2009/0&middot;&middot;&middot;ows.html</A><br><br>Good Luck<br>I guess the big secret is out still waiting for the Bell Nexxia update to be available in my area as a faster alternative to shaw cable.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:47:57 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[fifty nine posted : Have to agree here.<br><br>When I went to 30Mbps DOCSIS3 it was night and day.  Pages loaded instantly, no lag time or waiting.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:29:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[fifty nine posted : Exactly it is ALL about competition, which is why DOCSIS is just fine for most people right now.<br><br>FTTH is pretty much a waste at today's speeds.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 15:20:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[iansltx posted : Exactly. The "inflection points" on internet these days are 768k (broadband), 1.5 Mbps (more video streaming), 5 Mbps (HD video in some cases) and 15 Mbps (rocking connectivity). If you're moving from one tier to the other it does make a rather big difference. On uploads, 384k, 768k, 1.5-2M and 5M are probably the big ones.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:42:29 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[iansltx posted : I'd take 10/5 over 24/1.5 any day of the week. However they're competing with 20/1.5 on a shared (cable) system, so they're clearly the better option :)<br><br>As for websites, where are you going that only has 1.5 Mbps downloads? I can max out my connection here DL/ULing from my personal site ($7.50 per month is the basic plan...I got a better deal though) and seems like any servers with anything to download these days are on 100 Mbps ports...]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:39:28 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[PapaMidnight posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1460065" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1460065');">jadebangle</a>:</small><br><br>Most website won't allow you to download faster then 1.5mbps so its only in rare cases or few place that you can exceed this speed</div>Were you serious?<br><br>I can easily do 80mbps at Uni from almost any website I travel too (with the exception of a few which I know for a fact are on 10mbit links).<br><br>I hate how many people just nonchalantly throw out this statement like we're all still on AOL Dial-Up or something.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:38:13 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Matt posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/1460065" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=1460065');">jadebangle</a>:</small><br><br><div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/693768" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=693768');">fifty nine</a>:</small><br><br>But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better.  Even OOL Boost does better.<br> </div>The upload is just as important as download<br>it isn't anymore useful to have 24/1.5 vs 5/5 for about the same price. Most website won't allow you to download faster then 1.5mbps so its only in rare cases or few place that you can exceed this speed<br><br>Too much download speed is useless without decent upload speed to compensate for it...<br></div>Your first statement is absolutely false. Put a 10Mbps or higher line next to a 1.5Mbps line and it's night and day. My 15Mbps fiber line has slightly higher letancy to most sites than my 1.5Mbps Road Runner line, but my fiber line destroys my RR line when comparing browsing speeds. It's night and day.<br><br>Your last statement is true however. But 1.5Mbps and up is a good upstream number for the vast majority of people. I only have 2Mbps and while 5Mbps upstream is available to me, 2Mbps is great.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:25:04 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[jadebangle posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/693768" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=693768');">fifty nine</a>:</small><br><br>But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better.  Even OOL Boost does better.<br> </div>The upload is just as important as download<br>it isn't anymore useful to have 24/1.5 vs 5/5 for about the same price. Most website won't allow you to download faster then 1.5mbps so its only in rare cases or few place that you can exceed this speed<br>I'll still prefer 5/5 over 10/1 or 20/2 etc<br>even 20/5 isn't much better then 5/5 <br>I could probably leech faster occasionally on 20/5 but its not a big deal since I'm not an impatient bastard like few who even think 100/1 is cool with them... who see upload speed as least important.<br><br>Too much download speed is useless without decent upload speed to compensate for it...<br> ]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:19:30 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Mr Fel posted : Right now for the $13 less per month I'm giving to AT&T for dsl I'm getting 1.5/384, I see this as a VAST improvement to local area and I would definitely give out the extra $13 per month if it was available to me.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:17:48 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Matt posted : <div class="bquote"><small>said by <a href="/profile/693768" onClick="this.blur(); return popup(event,'/uidpop?ajh=1&uid=693768');">fifty nine</a>:</small><br><br>But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better.  Even OOL Boost does better.<br> </div>It's all about competition. My FTTH is only 15Mbps down and 2Mbps up, for $69.99 a month. The fastest tier I can purchase from a competitor is 10Mbps/512Kbps from Time Warner.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:13:44 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[iansltx posted : They're competing against 1.5 Mbit uploads, and previously 768k was the norm. We're also talking about not-New-Jersey and not-NYC here...personally, I'd be fine giving up 512k of upload speed in exchange for 200% more download speed, a $20 per month lower price than I'm paying now...and no caps!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 14:01:37 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[fifty nine posted : But with 1.5M upload? My cable connection does better.  Even OOL Boost does better.]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:46:08 EDT</pubDate>
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<description><![CDATA[Smith6612 posted : Sure the upstream may be a bit low on this package, but certainly it's nice to see Windstream joining the FTTH bandwagon!]]></description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 13:28:35 EDT</pubDate>
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