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klambert
Seti Rocks
ExMod 2000-03
join:2000-07-20
Dallas, TX

WoWMatrix is Out of Action

FYI -- Curse and Wowinterface have succeeded in blocking WoWMatrix from operating using any of their resources. They managed to drop this right before 3.1 went live (within the last day), so it is VERY unlikely that you will be able to use WoWMatrix to updaty your mods for 3.1.

In other words, you will have to either use the Curse/WoWInterface clients or manually update each mod.
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kc0bbq

join:2001-03-22
Cottage Grove, MN

Since manually updating is less painful than the curse client, back to manually updating for me.



Veriis
Not that creative

join:2008-06-20
Frisco, TX

reply to klambert
Correct me if I am wrong, but they have blocked it before a few times right? Then WM found a way back in, so to speak.

Guess we'll see if they can this time or not. Else back to manually updating (and a whole lot less often)...ick



hsindogg
Premium
join:2002-06-21
Potomac, MD

Re: WoWMatrix is Out of Action

I have like 150 addons, it sucks to update each one of them!


Archivis
Your Daddy
Premium
join:2001-11-26
Earth
kudos:17

reply to Anon
Fuck it. I went with Wowmatrix and had no problems. It's not about lazy, it's about wasted effort. Am I lazy because I drive to work instead of walk?



Veriis
Not that creative

join:2008-06-20
Frisco, TX

reply to Anon

said by Leathal:

said by klambert:

FYI -- Curse and Wowinterface have succeeded in blocking WoWMatrix from operating using any of their resources. They managed to drop this right before 3.1 went live (within the last day), so it is VERY unlikely that you will be able to use WoWMatrix to updaty your mods for 3.1.

In other words, you will have to either use the Curse/WoWInterface clients or manually update each mod.
Oh Noes! We have another lazy WoW player here who can't take the time download and install/upgrade their own mods! I hope your not like this in RL!

L.
Of course it's not hard to manually install/upgrade the mods. WM was just a tool of convenience, if it goes away then we'll go back the old way. But if it works, why not utilize it? (Ok not trying to start up that whole discussion again of why WM is "bad" etc. If curse,WI had an app as easy to use as WM I'd use that instead)


TrueAudio
192khz
Premium
join:2002-02-24
Richmond, CA

reply to klambert
Who likes to go searching through laggy websites, and 13 different download links that keep redirecting you to another page with a download link to get to your 50 addons, unzip them, delete all the old data for them, drop in the new ones, and then make sure they are even working properly?

It's not about being lazy. It just pain in the ass to deal with. And if theres a program that will do all that for me.. Why on earth would i ever want to go back to the old way. Leathal.. lay off the crack pipe dude.. Its about convience, what are world is founded on.



Harddrive
Proud American and Infidel since 1968.
Premium
join:2000-09-20
Phone Room
kudos:2

reply to klambert
what's wrong with Curse's updater?


kc0bbq

join:2001-03-22
Cottage Grove, MN

said by Harddrive:

what's wrong with Curse's updater?
It's slow, phones home with user tracking stuff, requires you to log in... I can't find it in my heart to blindly trust them.


Mike
Premium,Mod
join:2000-09-17
Pittsburgh, PA

use the beta updater.

it's a reskinned wowace.



Lokro
Premium
join:2002-12-28
Loveland, CO

reply to klambert
I can see they why in it but it still sucks for us end users. Wowmatrix was one of the only updaters to work well out of the box.



Dropper

join:2008-09-18
Anchorage, AK

reply to klambert
Curse has never not worked as far as I can remember. It installs, it runs and it updates. Perfect lazy player tool for updating all mods without lifting a finger.



Mashiki
Balking The Enemy's Plans

join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON

reply to klambert

Re: WoWMatrix is Out of Action

Couldn't happen to a more bottom feeding updater. Good riddance to bad program.

Lindsey

join:2008-12-16

reply to klambert
Curse works just fine..get there newest one..I have no problems with it at all



techjoe
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Warrenville, IL
kudos:1
Reviews:
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reply to klambert
They're already getting backlash from users for the java and flash requirements and such. If you want to do something constructive to help WoWMatrix go complain that you don't trust flash and jscript and find it crippling to you as a manual addon update person..

I also have ~150 addons. DIAF if you think that's excessive, they're situational and very useful to me. I'm a tinkerer and have even dabbled in LUA myself, addressing bugs or exposing data that I want to see from existing addons. Used to use wowace, got forced into wowmatrix when curse bought Ace.

Curse and WoWI are bitching they aren't making enough money from ads. Most 'techie' users that do use a lot of addons (and therefor a lot of bandwidth) use AdBlock or other methods to filter the ads anyway. We'll actually use *more* bandwidth in the long run now still with ZERO ad revenue. They're being f'in greedy. There's plenty of services out there to mirror files without having to invest a lot of dough, and if they stepped off of their high horse for 10 minutes I'm sure they could even cut a nice deal with WoWMatrix to share profits or otherwise.

We like WoWMatrix because it takes a lot of the BULLSHIT work out of addon updating/version checking.

I've seen a beta set of scripts to screen-scrape and do other nasty things to emulate WoWMatrix's functionality, and I fully expect the community to find a way around their new draconian stance if they don't either back off or provide a similar multi-site updater that actually works cross-platform as well.

My big question is: If the WoWMatrix folks can write an app to do it, and do it well, why can't curse and WoWI take some time away from their between the sheets love affair of late, and create a similiar app that shows their own ads instead??? It's not that f'in hard. Especially being the repo of choice from the authors they're in the best position to roll that out. Direct access to the addon databases, fast and efficient version checking, hell they could even do bit-level patching to really conserve bandwidth - Imagine that! Not that I'd trust either of them much between past issues with malicious code from their ads/updaters and their attitude throughout their WoWMatrix "problem" personally, but hey it's a better alternative.

TL;DR Version: The users want WAU/WoWMatrix/etc style updating. We have made that clear. Don't bitch when you aren't delivering the product in demand and people step all over you...

/soapbox

Edit: Small typo, small clarification

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Mashiki
Balking The Enemy's Plans

join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON
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Their problem with wowmatrix was they stripped out author info, having written addons I find that offensive thanks. It can diaf.

Hmm...WAU updating? Dunno looks pretty close to me. Oh I find the lack of ads...uh..wait what? The problem is people stripping out ads from the website not the updater fyi.


techjoe
Premium
join:2004-02-20
Warrenville, IL
kudos:1
Reviews:
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credits
WoWMatrix has shown author credits for a while, along with author site link functions. I know at one point that was an issue and I totally supported the addition of the credits..When WAU went south people flocked to WoWMatrix, it got the bad rap and the author actually listened to the feedback and gave proper credits...
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Mashiki
Balking The Enemy's Plans

join:2002-02-04
Woodstock, ON

Any developer worth their salt from the start of a project would give credit, if they're not they're willing to do it again because it's expedient or they don't care. That makes them highly suspect and dubious at best.


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