 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | How Is Anyone Surprised? Anyone who is even remotely politically literate in the USA knows that the Democrat party and the content industry have had a long and cozy relationship, far deeper than the one that exists between the GOP and the same industry.
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| reply to pnh102 I'm somewhat surprised, because Obama seems to have more of a clue then the average politician on some issues related to Tech, such as broadband.... however, it's become clear when it comes to Copyright, Obama is in the camp of "Hollywood Content is one of America's most important industries".... "Biggest Exports", "Piracy cost us 6 gazillion bazillion last year" etc etc yadda yadda.
While I can hardly disagree with that position that IP is one of America's largest export industries, I do believe he's clearly out of touch with copyright fascism---- the draconian laws and tactics, which they keep pushing to make MORE unfair and MORE draconian, and apparently he doesn't see the costs of such moves (DRM, Piracy taxes, forced loyalty payments, three strikes etc the list goes on and on.)
It's disappointing, but as you say, not so much surprising... and it's another example of the two party system in the USA failing to defend or protect the positions and opinions of much of the citizenry.... voting for either still equals fail. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 | reply to pnh102 said by pnh102:Anyone who is even remotely politically literate in the USA knows that the Democrat party and the content industry have had a long and cozy relationship, far deeper than the one that exists between the GOP and the same industry. Anyone who voted for Obama thinking that there would be any meaningful "reform" has been taken for a ride. You aren't kidding. Opensecrets.org just made it easier to track where election money goes to and comes from. I created a web page using widgets from opensecrets.org that shows how Hollyweird was a BIG contributor to the Dems & Obama.
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | reply to KrK said by KrK:It's disappointing, but as you say, not so much surprising... and it's another example of the two party system in the USA failing to defend or protect the positions and opinions of much of the citizenry.... voting for either still equals fail. Conversely I won't understand why the GOP supports any type of law or enforcement action that benefits the content industry. The content industry, from the actors, singers, artists, writers, producers, etc. all the way up to the executives at the highest level are all flaming liberals politically. On top of that, the content industry never wastes an opportunity to trash the GOP or any conservative in general.
With that in mind, why would the GOP care so much about the welfare of this industry? Because, as you accurately pointed out, most of the time any proposal comes around to strengthen said industry, the GOP stupidly lines up behind it. -- Blagojevich / Madoff 2012! |
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| They also are big believers in "This is one of America's most Important industries" IE Cash cows.
While I hardly can disagree that it's a big industry (The creation of entertainment, few could argue the US is the biggest exporter of movies/music/graphics/gaming etc in the World) I do take issue with laws that criminalize regular behavior, with draconian anti-consumer fines and punishments, mandatory royalty/tax type plans or suggestions that hurt innocent people, etc
The US Constitution prohibits cruel or unusual punishment, or to put it in more common terms "Let the punishment fit the crime."
Copyright infringement on a personal level is rather like a minor traffic violation... and the punishments should be similar, IMHO. -- "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power." -- Benito Mussolini
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 | said by KrK:The US Constitution prohibits cruel or unusual punishment, or to put it in more common terms "Let the punishment fit the crime." Copyright infringement on a personal level is rather like a minor traffic violation... and the punishments should be similar, IMHO. And the punishments are going to get harsher:
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 DrModemPremium join:2006-10-19 USA kudos:1 | reply to pnh102 said by pnh102:Anyone who is even remotely politically literate in the USA knows that the Democrat party and the content industry have had a long and cozy relationship, far deeper than the one that exists between the GOP and the same industry. Anyone who voted for Obama thinking that there would be any meaningful "reform" has been taken for a ride. Lord Obama promised us peace! |
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 | reply to KrK The worst part is that he just ran into the negative effects of DRM when he gave those DVDs to a guy in England. He has seen the bullshit first hand. |
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 pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | reply to DrModem said by DrModem:Lord Obama promised us peace! Peace in our time?  -- Blagojevich / Madoff 2012! |
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 Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA | reply to pnh102 said by pnh102:Conversely I won't understand why the GOP supports any type of law or enforcement action that benefits the content industry. The content industry, from the actors, singers, artists, writers, producers, etc. all the way up to the executives at the highest level are all flaming liberals politically. On top of that, the content industry never wastes an opportunity to trash the GOP or any conservative in general. With that in mind, why would the GOP care so much about the welfare of this industry? Because, as you accurately pointed out, most of the time any proposal comes around to strengthen said industry, the GOP stupidly lines up behind it. It's as simple as the GOP cares about private enterprise in general, although that certainly doesn't mean that GOP pols never make mistakes that hurt our economy. |
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| reply to pnh102 said by pnh102:Anyone who voted for Obama thinking that there would be any meaningful "reform" has been taken for a ride. You could not have said it any better! |
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 Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA | reply to insomniac84 said by insomniac84:The worst part is that he just ran into the negative effects of DRM when he gave those DVDs to a guy in England. He has seen the bullshit first hand. All that shows is that he doesn't have a clue how so called "intellectual property" law effects the average person. He's appointing RIAA lawyers based on political ties rather than any understanding of the issues involved. |
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 | reply to fAcEtIOUs Don't you mean
"And the punishments are going to get harsher"
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 Sammer join:2005-12-22 Canonsburg, PA | reply to fAcEtIOUs said by fAcEtIOUs:Opensecrets.org just made it easier to track where election money goes to and comes from. I created a web page using widgets from opensecrets.org that shows how Hollyweird was a BIG contributor to the Dems & Obama. » tkjunkmail.googlepages.com/moneytopols What happened to "fair and balanced" with (82% went to Democrats) News Corp? |
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 R4M0NBrazilian Soccer Ownz Joo join:2000-10-04 Glen Allen, VA | reply to russotto I see what you did there...  |
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 badtripI heart the East BayPremium join:2004-03-20 Albany, CA | reply to pnh102 said by pnh102:Anyone who voted for Obama thinking that there would be any meaningful "reform" has been taken for a ride. TBH, Obama disappoints me almost every time I read a news story regarding his administration. He has broken promise after promise. The thing that disappoints me most is that the promises Obama breaks aren't your standard "I won't raise taxes," promise it's the "I believe in transparency and ethics," promises he repeatedly breaks. |
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 | reply to KrK said by KrK: "Let the punishment fit the crime." Copyright infringement on a personal level is rather like a minor traffic violation... and the punishments should be similar, IMHO. If that were actually practiced, then the time served on death row would be rather short. Both parties understand the way to sway the masses is through the media. So both parties kiss the Arse of the media conglomerates because we are now governed by polls and crises perpetuated my these same media. |
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 knightmbEverybody Lies join:2003-12-01 Franklin, TN | reply to fAcEtIOUs said by fAcEtIOUs:said by pnh102:Anyone who is even remotely politically literate in the USA knows that the Democrat party and the content industry have had a long and cozy relationship, far deeper than the one that exists between the GOP and the same industry. Anyone who voted for Obama thinking that there would be any meaningful "reform" has been taken for a ride. You aren't kidding. Opensecrets.org just made it easier to track where election money goes to and comes from. I created a web page using widgets from opensecrets.org that shows how Hollyweird was a BIG contributor to the Dems & Obama. » tkjunkmail.googlepages.com/moneytopols[att=1,l][att=2,c] Yeah those account for what?
$3,390,678 / $368,272,968 = 0.0092 %
So I guess that means the barely 1% contributor to his election is really that important? I think the individual donations way slide-out your numbers and relevance here.
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