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bruggen

@bredband2.com

reply to alphad

Re: DIR-655 New Firmware 1.30 (Read before upgrading!!!)

ALL RIGHT I TRIED THE 30/30/30 both before and after now, and it actually seems to work fine now. Gonna test it out some more but it was stable for 2 hours or so yesterday! Thanks for the help!


dcurrey
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reply to HolmanGT

Re: DIR-655 New Firmware 1.30

said by HolmanGT:

Actually the new V4 DIR-655 box does not say B/G/N any longer,PamelaTS. It now says Backward compatible with "G" systems.

I Have one in my hot little hands as we speak. I didn't notice the absence of "B" until I had it open and read your post and looked at the box. Ouch! They do not make it real obvious that you can not use "B" they just make the statement about "G" and absolutely no mention of "B" so unless you are specifically looking for something that is not there you will get bit, but no "B" bits.

[Edit] I was in Best Buy this afternoon and the DIR-825 makes no mention of being "B" compatible. Can someone that has one verify this? The Box only talks about G & N.
The description on Dlinks website for dir-655 only mentions backward compatability to G. Datasheet only list IEEE 802.11n (draft 2.0), IEEE 802.11g, IEEE 802.3, and IEEE 802.3u NO 802.11b


PamelaTS

join:2004-04-20
Dallas, TX
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reply to tipstir

said by tipstir:

Most home users have G or N anyway..

I don't think this is true N is still an emerging technology. Lets have a reality check here ~ Most people still have G and yes B devices. We buy newer equipment like the DIR-655 for upgradablity. Most people (non-hardware junkies) do not go out and buy something brand new just because its the latest greatest. {I.E. Draft N} Some of us known as hardware junkies also don't squander money just because some marketing ploy would have us do so.

D-Link will wake up and find their product removed from store shelves in states where consumer protection laws prohibit bait and switch and false advertising. The DIR-655 was marketed and still is as Draft N 2.0 B/G/N compatible. This is fundamental to its use and purpose, some of us bought it for that reason. They marketed it for those who like me have devices of different standards. To change now is a clear indicator that they do not intend to stand buy their own marketing, and that is on the deceptive trade practices act laundry list. A clear violation that could result in lost market.

I wonder how much of a bonus the exec that thought up this idea got??? (albeit they could actually fix the firmware for what he got, lol)


PamelaTS

join:2004-04-20
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reply to dcurrey

said by dcurrey:

said by HolmanGT:

Actually the new V4 DIR-655 box does not say B/G/N any longer... It now says Backward compatible with "G" systems.

The description on Dlinks website for dir-655 only mentions backward compatability to G. Datasheet only list IEEE 802.11n (draft 2.0), IEEE 802.11g, IEEE 802.3, and IEEE 802.3u NO 802.11b
So they have, when I posted my prev message I don't believe they had changed it yet (web site). The support site »support.dlink.com/products/view.···IR%2D655 does still mention B compatibility (I have it in PDF now, so let them change it now). Not to mention I'm one of those people that don't throw boxes for tech gear away. The box my A3 came in definitely says B/G/N. So their changing their marketing site does not in any way protect them from their liability to provide for the product as it WAS SOLD!

If they really wanted to just drop B as they appear to be headed. Then it should as in the DIR-685 they announced, be so from the beginning. This change should only applicable to NEW products changing specs of an existing product line for any reason other than governmental regulation is fraudulent. Revenues they have had for these products over the last few years is now based on fraud and deceit.


dcurrey
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Doesn't the final N standard require it to be backward computable with G and B. Are to not going to worry about being officially certified by the WiFi Alliance.

Does this new trend indicate they don't expect the current hardware to be able to handle the final N standard and are doing what they can to make it work the best it can.



Tsume
Premium
join:2004-02-23
Johnson City, TN

reply to dcurrey

Re: DIR-655 New Firmware 1.30 (Read before upgrading!!!)

What about Nintendo DS and Sony PSP????

This is stupid...


hayabusa3303
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reply to dcurrey

Re: DIR-655 New Firmware 1.30

said by dcurrey:

Doesn't the final N standard require it to be backward computable with G and B. Are to not going to worry about being officially certified by the WiFi Alliance.

looks like b has be in there by this or im reading it wrong.

»en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Alliance

- Interoperability is the primary target of certification. Rigorous test cases are used to ensure that products from different equipment vendors can interoperate in a wide variety of configurations. - Backward compatibility has to be preserved to allow for new equipment to work with existing gear. - Backward compatibility protects investments in legacy Wi Fi products and enables users to gradually upgrade and expand their networks. - Innovation is supported through the introduction of new certification programs as the latest technology and specifications come into the marketplace


Streak

@comcast.net

All of this talk of compatibility reminds me of ethernet...

No one has 10 Mbps networks anymore, yet even Gig supports it (10/100/1000).

I can't remember the last time I've seen 10 Mbps in use.



dcurrey
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The linksys ATAs for voip use a 10 mbps connection.



hayabusa3303
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reply to Streak

said by Streak :

No one has 10 Mbps networks anymore, yet even Gig supports it (10/100/1000).
We are talking about wireless not wired

mtbush

join:2006-11-05
Durham, NC

reply to HolmanGT

Re: DIR-655 New Firmware 1.30 (Read before upgrading!!!)

said by HolmanGT:

mtbush,

Check your PMs
Thanks, I can't decide if I want to use this or not.
My wife is out of town with her laptop and I can't remember if her wireless is B or G....


HolmanGT
Premium
join:2001-11-20
Saint George, UT

mtbush,

That's simple buy her a G/N adapter for mothers day. You may reap more rewards than you counted on.

PS - they last longer than flowers anyway.



Streak

@comcast.net

reply to hayabusa3303

Re: DIR-655 New Firmware 1.30

said by hayabusa3303:

said by Streak :

No one has 10 Mbps networks anymore, yet even Gig supports it (10/100/1000).
We are talking about wireless not wired
True...I was just referring to standards in general.
I don't know any networking companies that'd say, "no one uses 10 Mbps anymore, we should drop it".


MvdL79

@nb.home.nl

reply to dcurrey

Re: DIR-655 New Firmware 1.30 (Read before upgrading!!!)

Bah, I still to seem to experience problems, even with this firmware.

After a few days, pages started to load slowly all of a sudden, after that images and website layout are gone (and only text is displayed) and after that I get 404's...

Sigh...

I already tried 30/30/30 several times, redid all my settings manually, disabled QOS and stuff... The only thing that remains for me to do, is disable to DNS relay, but I really do not want to do that, cause I will have to make adjustments to every PC connected to the router, right?

I use openDNS as nameservers...


MvdL79

@nb.home.nl

reply to dcurrey
Oh and one more thing; the only firmware which really worked for me without problems was: 1.21

I wish I never upgraded...


higginst
VIP
join:2005-04-16
Earlysville, VA

reply to dcurrey
I did some digging on this. Here is the story:
»www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/···798/100/
--
Small Network Help @ »smallnetbuilder.com


bunch

join:2001-11-26
Canada

2 edits

reply to dcurrey
I made the mistake of upgrading right away and now I'm on the internet via dialup trying to find a way to get my router working again.

Here's what happened: after trying to update to the 1.30 firmware the router rebooted but kept showing rev. A2 v1.21

I thought I may have loaded the wrong file so I tried to flash it again and there was no change. No settings were being saved by the router, after putting in my ISP info it would reboot but all the settings would be lost.

Any ideas?



Nighthock

@mchsi.com

reply to dcurrey
So I upgraded the firmware without being aware that the B support was taken out. How can I connect my Nintendo DS to the internet now?



Scree
In the pipe 5 by 5

join:2001-04-24
Mount Laurel, NJ
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1 edit

reply to MvdL79

said by MvdL79 :

After a few days, pages started to load slowly all of a sudden, after that images and website layout are gone (and only text is displayed) and after that I get 404's
Exactly what would happen to me with 1.22b05 after 3 or 4 days. Glad I avoid 1.30 now.

(Current uptime with 1.21 [2008/11/13]: 36 days.)


hayabusa3303
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1 edit

reply to Nighthock

said by Nighthock :

So I upgraded the firmware without being aware that the B support was taken out. How can I connect my Nintendo DS to the internet now?
nothing you can do, maybe buy a cheap router turn the dchp off and use it as a AP.
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