 matteiModerated, now muzzled
join:2001-03-19
Canada | reply to psx_defector
Re: I'm tired of ISPs implying usage = pirate Did you understand the Bell Wireline numbers?
said by psx_defector:The outliers at the top of the graph suck down bandwidth like there is no tomorrow, while grandma is sitting there at the other end pulling up their genealogy websites once a month. Thanks for the math refresher. They're called tiered service offerings. Ask Krispy or check out the packages.
said by psx_defector:A deviation shift to the left will release so much bandwidth, it's worth it for companies to do it. Standard deviation of normally distributed bell curves plotting monthly GB consumption? It's shrinking. Let me help you with that: the slope is steeper and the curve is narrower. "Shifting" won't do as much as it used to.
Are you in possession of data that will prove it, one way or another?
said by psx_defector:Or do you slurp down terabytes of "Linux ISOs"? Nope.
said by psx_defector:A quick search through torrent search engines, eD2K networks, and Usenet will show the VAST majority of the content to be of dubious merits or pr0n. Who's talking about P2P? Cogeco?
said by Cogeco January 19th CRTC filing :
Regarding the Upstream side, the introduction of NBAR[Network Based Application Recognition] on Cogeco’s network improved Cogeco’s capacity of recognising P2P applications. As a result, Cogeco’s average enduser monthly usage fell significantly. Since the fall 2007, without any modification to its practice, Cogeco noted that Cogeco’s average end-user monthly usage has decreased. This change is mainly attributed to the fact that customers are using more online video, such as You Tube, and therefore are likely to use less P2P applications. Do you need help with DOCSIS upstream QPSK or 16-QAM concepts and considerations?
said by psx_defector:But, oh, you only get "Linux ISOs" and "patches" that way right? I love that you're trying to paint me with that brush. Thanks for providing an example of what I said above.
said by psx_defector:Don't pretend like pirates are not a large part of the problem. I don't pretend. I demand proof.
said by psx_defector:They consume WAY more bandwidth than any family watching Hulu 24x7. Numbers please. |
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 otty
join:2008-10-24
Revelstoke, BC | The bottom line is whether it is pirated content or not that is being downloaded is of NO concern to the ISP. The obly valid argument they MIGHT have is congestion. IF that were true MAYBE some sort of cap would be justified. The overage prices still wouldn't.
They provide connectivity. They are not the police or any sort of enforcement agency. It is not their concern what is being downloaded on their network until they receive the subpoena. Even then it is only the info required by the subpoena that is their concern. Until legislated otherwise lets stay on topic:
Caps... |
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1 edit | said by otty:The bottom line is whether it is pirated content or not that is being downloaded is of NO concern to the ISP. That's not strictly true. If you rent out the basement of your house to someone and he uses the space to grow pot would that not be a concern to you? He may be paying rent to be there but he is using YOUR property to do something illegal and you have every right to take action against him.
The same applies to ISPs and piracy. Like it or not copyright infringement IS illegal, an ISPs network is effectively private property and your monthly bill is like the rent on that property. Just because ISPs choose not to get involved with enforcement doesn't mean they CAN'T. |
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| because its my house thats why i'll be questioned.
they cant talk to ISPs about this because they know how the "internet" thingy works. the ISP will give them my ip and my info IF IM DOWNLOADING ILLEGAL STUFF |
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actually, a landlord doesn't have any legal right to do anything to a tenant, not even enter without notice. what he CAN do is call the cops |
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