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pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD
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More Proof Government Broadband is Bad

So how do the taxpayers of Manassas feel about their valuable money being wasted on something that clearly isn't vital to the city to function.

I wonder if the same council threatened to cut funding for schools, police, firefighters and the usual suspects that come up when government want to raise taxes.
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!


sortofaTroll

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said by pnh102 See Profile :

So how do the taxpayers of Manassas feel about their valuable money being wasted on something that clearly isn't vital to the city to function.
What's the alternative?
A big fugly UHearse cabinet on every corner?


pnh102
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said by sortofaTroll :

What's the alternative?
A big fugly UHearse cabinet on every corner?
People in Manassas can get broadband from Comcast or Verizon (DSL or FIOS).

Both of these options were put in place with no taxpayer money involved.

There is no need for any form of government-provided broadband in Manassas.
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!

decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN

said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by sortofaTroll :

What's the alternative?
A big fugly UHearse cabinet on every corner?
People in Manassas can get broadband from Comcast or Verizon (DSL or FIOS).

Both of these options were put in place with no taxpayer money involved.

There is no need for any form of government-provided broadband in Manassas.
Right.. Comcast and verizon and ATT alike only want the more populated areas.. What about people in less dense subdivisions? You going to suggest they move to get broadband? That reasoning alone shows ignorance and laziness amongst providers.. For company's that have had tax money handed to them already (( not stimulas money )) they have done a piss poor job coming up with faster and affordable networks for everyone..

Satellite internet is an excuse.. Not a solution


pnh102
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said by decifal See Profile :

You going to suggest they move to get broadband?
Yes.
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!

decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN

said by pnh102 See Profile :

said by decifal See Profile :

You going to suggest they move to get broadband?
Yes.
Alright fine.. Clean out your guest room.. We all will move in to your place! When that is full, we'll get tents and move into the yard. Maybe we can build a structure over your house to help support all the extra people moving to the city from your answer.. Then when food prices sky rocket from farmers moving just to get utilities, and you start complaining.. Our answer will be move to the sticks and grow a carrot.

God seriously.. If you believe that's the answer, then you fail at innovation.. Sorry.. Hate it for ya.


pnh102
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said by decifal See Profile :

We all will move in to your place! When that is full, we'll get tents and move into the yard.
The extra rental income would be nice.

said by decifal See Profile :

God seriously.. If you believe that's the answer, then you fail at innovation.. Sorry.. Hate it for ya.
Whose fault is it if you don't check to see if broadband is available before you move? Every place to live has its advantages and disadvantages. It isn't Verizon's fault or Comcast's fault if someone chooses to live out in the middle of nowhere.
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!


sapo
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Sacramento, CA
reply to decifal
You just called Broadband a Utility. It is not quite there yet.

decifal

join:2007-03-10
Bon Aqua, TN

reply to pnh102
Hello. I have lived in this area all my life.. Services were created and built out sense i've been living here.. Even though there are many people here wishing to have BB service from our local providers, they do not yet provide it.. There are quite a few of us.. Not just some farmer and his cow/goat/whatever he has..

Broadband not a utility? Heh, I think its more so than people realise... If you forget what its like to not have it.. Try dialup for a week.. I bet you won't last.. Just checking my bank account takes 5 minutes... God help me if I want to shop on the internet, watch a video, download software etc.... I love to play fps games, but latency just kills it..


pnh102
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said by decifal See Profile :

Broadband not a utility?
Nope.

Not in the least.

We have billions of people on this planet who get by just fine without broadband. We have millions of people in this country who live just fine without broadband. No one will die if they lack broadband.
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!

MrHappy316
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Summerville, SC
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I'll have to agree with some of this assessment, where I currently live was based on lots of research on the availability of broadband. Had it not been available from multiple carriers I would not of moved where I currently live.

I will agree on some of those forced to live in the boonies due to employment or some other factor, they should have multiple choices for broadband just like those of us living in cities. I'm about to be forced to live in the boonies and it looks like a monopoly on broadband services where I'm at (- satellite of course).

But unlike some other folks I was deployed to Afghanistan for a year and relied on satellite broadband to provide internet. Might not be able to play games but at least lets you keep in touch with folks and hop on the internet for other than latency applications without dial up speeds.


rawgerz
In Debt we trust
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Grove City, PA
reply to pnh102
I was told that Verizon used tax dollars to fund fios work in Philly.


sapo
I eat meat
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Sacramento, CA

reply to decifal
Water is a utility... hygiene, hydration, and necessary for to maintain any other organisms such as plants.

Broadband on the other hand... watching videos, checking your bank account, and FPS games hardly compare.

It is a point that has been established a long time ago.

moonpuppy

join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL

reply to decifal
said by decifal See Profile :

Right.. Comcast and verizon and ATT alike only want the more populated areas.. What about people in less dense subdivisions? You going to suggest they move to get broadband? That reasoning alone shows ignorance and laziness amongst providers.. For company's that have had tax money handed to them already (( not stimulas money )) they have done a piss poor job coming up with faster and affordable networks for everyone..

Satellite internet is an excuse.. Not a solution
BPL was never meant for less dense areas. It have severe limitations on distance and infrastructure that have not been worked out in the many years it has been tried out.

axus

join:2001-06-18
Washington, DC
reply to pnh102
I expect they said the same thing about telephone when it came out.


HotRodFoto
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Denver, CO

reply to pnh102
said by pnh102 See Profile :

So how do the taxpayers of Manassas feel about their valuable money being wasted on something that clearly isn't vital to the city to function.

I wonder if the same council threatened to cut funding for schools, police, firefighters and the usual suspects that come up when government want to raise taxes.
I would much rather have this than the crap companies like TW dish it's customers. Choice IS Freedom! Competition rules!


HotRodFoto
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Denver, CO

reply to sapo
said by sapo See Profile :

You just called Broadband a Utility. It is not quite there yet.
It is there, America is just blind to it and how the rest of the world classifies things.


pnh102
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Mount Airy, MD
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reply to HotRodFoto
said by HotRodFoto See Profile :

I would much rather have this than the crap companies like TW dish it's customers. Choice IS Freedom! Competition rules!
An unprofitable entity financed by taxes is freedom?
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Blagojevich / Madoff 2012!


Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
reply to sortofaTroll
Between BPL and U-Verse, I don't know which is worse.

How about coax or fiber on poles or underground, like cable or FiOS?


Eat Me

join:2002-09-25
Sussex, NJ
reply to sapo
Telephone service on the other hand... yapping away with friends and relatives. Why do rural folks need telephones anyway? They can use smoke signals or the CB radio.
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