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Bit00
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join:2009-02-19
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reply to myokitis

Re: More Populist ISP Bashing from BBR

They don't have capacity issues and they are profitable.

This has nothing to do with consumption of internet services and everything to do with TWC moving to defend their video revenues from ever-rising streaming competitors.

IOW, it's everything to do with greed.


me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

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said by Bit00:

They don't have capacity issues and they are profitable.

This has nothing to do with consumption of internet services and everything to do with TWC moving to defend their video revenues from ever-rising streaming competitors.

IOW, it's everything to do with greed.
Maybe we need more internet only ISPs, they would not have any video or phone money to protect.


RayW
Premium
join:2001-09-01
Layton, UT
kudos:1

said by me1212:

said by Bit00:

They don't have capacity issues and they are profitable.

This has nothing to do with consumption of internet services and everything to do with TWC moving to defend their video revenues from ever-rising streaming competitors.

IOW, it's everything to do with greed.
Maybe we need more internet only ISPs, they would not have any video or phone money to protect.
You mean a REAL ISP and not a corporate monster? Those folks are not worth talking about, they do a good job and keep users happy (and most of them do have caps since they have to pay for the bandwidth their customers use) and can not hide profits and losses among the other businesses they have.

I like Xmission and listening to what some of my neighbors say about Comcast and the MSN/QWEST offering, I am not about to change, even if it is a few dollars cheaper to do so.
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I am not lost, I find myself every time.

me1212

join:2008-11-20
Pleasant Hill, MO

When you say REAL ISP is that a good thing? Ether way I have a "real" ISP(I love them their tech support is GREAT and the owner himself will come to your house, even after hours if you have a problem and the tech guys are @ another house), if they have a cap I have never hit it, even with hq youtube a great amount if time each day, lots(actually about the same, some times juts do not want to go up stairs and use the PC but when I do I get HQ so.....) of nq youtube on the wii, VOIPo, and online gaming.



djrobx
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join:2000-05-31
Valencia, CA
kudos:2
Reviews:
·Time Warner Cable
·VOIPO
reply to me1212

said by Bit00:

Maybe we need more internet only ISPs, they would not have any video or phone money to protect.
And that is the actual source of this problem. Our telecommunications providers have become video providers, so none want to be a pipeline for their competitor. That does makes some sense, which is why I'm not totally opposed to metered billing. But it has to be fair, and capping your standard customers at 20GB is not fair. $1/gb overages is not reasonable.

If anyone should be screaming about rising costs of bandwidth use, it should be the smaller independent ISPs that use their own transit, like DSLExtreme. They have very little margin to play with after the gorillas get their share. Yet somehow they're not the ones driving this shift.
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iansltx

join:2007-02-19
Austin, TX
kudos:2
reply to RayW

DSLExtreme is a real ISP...no caps Too bad you can't get them where I live



en102
Canadian, eh?

join:2001-01-26
Valencia, CA
reply to djrobx

I agree... indie ISPs have a tough time out there, but are willing to do this.

I am not against 'reasonable' caps either. TWC's caps are similar to that of wireless cellphone.
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