Krisnatharok
0311 Scout
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join:2009-02-11
Sterling, VA
| reply to Ghastlyone
Re: Looking for 3.1 DK PvP build. Please help
I disagree. I am rocking Dark Death (+15% DC damage), Unholy Blight (30 seconds duration), and Disease (Pestilence resets duration).
My minor glyphs are Pestilence, Blood Tap, and Horn of Winter.
Your armor and HP benefit (which is getting nerfed even further in 3.2) in frost is marginal to the rape/nuke/burst capability of Unholy. Ghastly hit it on the head--take Improved Unholy Presence and pvp in Unholy Presence.
With IBF and Bone Shield you have an on-demand -50% mitigation ability, coupled with AMS makes you indestructible to casters. If you get AMZ, even more mitigation.
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Ghastlyone
join:2009-01-07
North Las Vegas, NV | reply to Alexoi
So what are some good PVP glyphs. I'm going to get rid of my Unholy Blight Glyph because that's basically worthless for PVP. |
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saosin85
join:2009-07-07
Harlingen, TX
| reply to Ghastlyone
IDK, to me unholy is meh, ok. Frost pvp is win due to the fact of survivability with blood. But, in retrospect, they are all good and viable specs for pvp depending on how u use them. kudos to you and imma try that unholy presence now it never caught my eye. but imma go try it. |
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Ghastlyone
join:2009-01-07
North Las Vegas, NV
| reply to Alexoi
Yeah, anyone that thinks you should PVP in Frost or Blood presence need to PVP a tad bit more and learn a few things.
I'm currently using a 0/10/61 build, and Im completely not Glyph'd or fully spec'd into PVP talents, and this build in Unholy Presence rapes.
Unholy Presence all the way for PVP. The speed of auto attacks and GCD of all your abilites make for real quick deaths.
Like was said earlier...dropping in on someone and busting a full rotation in the matter of seconds, popping Empowered Rune Weapon, and spamming Scourge Strike....most classes can't live through that, if they do, my Ghoul is there gnawing at the balance of their health.
Words cannot describe how important a full time Ghoul is for DK PVP. That pet is priceless. I've had Rogues pop on me and stunlock, instantly my Ghoul will stun them, at this point most Rogues know they can't win and will either stick it out and get killed or completely vanish.
Lately my thing has been World PVP. Nothing like completely wrecking people right in the middle of their dailys.
I used to fly around mining in my 51/0/20 spec in Frost Presence, and I'd get ganked nearly all the time, or they were very very close battles. Now? most times, it's not even a close call. |
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footballdude
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Imperial, MO
| reply to Quickdamage
said by Quickdamage  :If you have a warlock spamming chaos bolt even in frost presence it's gonna hit ya for 5-8k. Chaos Bolt has an 11 second cooldown. It's not spammable.
I agree on the unholy presence, though. A DK's job is to beat the hell out of people. Rapid attacks fit the bill nicely.
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saosin85
join:2009-07-07
Harlingen, TX | reply to Quickdamage
I've had warlocks on me and i drop them with ease, because of the fact that i have that extra hp from the blood and frost talents. they can spam all they want it wont help. |
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Quickdamage
join:2009-06-27
Maynard, MA
| reply to saosin85
If your in frost presence 85-90% of the time your doing something wrong. That is what resilience gear is for. If you have a warlock spamming chaos bolt even in frost presence it's gonna hit ya for 5-8k. Always, Always in unholy presence when arena or bg. |
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saosin85
join:2009-07-07
Harlingen, TX
1 edit |  reply to Alexoi
Well, i just read this post and i beg to differ with a lot of these builds. Here is a build that i came up with »www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xm···00000000. Many people forget that youre going to be using frost presence about 85-95% of the time when in bgs and arenas. so you need that 4% less damage to you. and howling blast doesnt really do much in arenas. It would be best to get more defensive talents than damage talents as to stay up a lot longer. With a good disci or holy priest this is deadly. I currently run a dk with a holy priest in bgs and can take up to 5 or 6 others and not go down so easily and take down 1 at least. Hope this helps you guys. |
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Painstake
@teksavvy.com | reply to Alexoi
this is what I have seen as the post patch cookie cutter pvp dk build
»www.wowhead.com/?talent#jfVzqZGM···c:aNTV0M |
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Krisnatharok
0311 Scout
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join:2009-02-11
Sterling, VA
| reply to Tizz
said by Tizz :
lol@the people that think pvping in blood presence is even comparable to unholy presence. Just lol.
Well damn, now I'm curious. I've been pvp blood but now I'm going to have to try out my planned frost build. |
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Tizz
@pacbell.net | reply to Alexoi
lol@the people that think pvping in blood presence is even comparable to unholy presence. Just lol. |
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dynodb
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join:2004-04-21
Minneapolis, MN | reply to Alexoi
NERF HOLY PALLYS AND DK
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drkmatr42
@il.us
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and btw, dual wield is worthless, if you are runes are- cinder and razor, for frost its cinder, for unholy its fallen. (those are for 2 handers) blood is useless, no cc and it jsut makes teams take longer to kill you, making frost and unholy only plausible specs for pvp/arena. |
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drkmatr42
@il.us
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look up swindel on maelstrom, unholy is the best build for arena, with frost close behind. with the patch now dots tick for 1k each. i used to play frost but when i went unholy i was very surprised at how well it worked. although arena rating isnt that high, given the fact we start at 0 now.... lol so give it some time ^_^ |
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pwrtoppl
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join:2008-11-21
Broomfield, CO
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so the other night i decided to go all rowdy and go onto the armory and check some battlegroups...i guess all the dks are using unholy/frost (0/17/54) and doin it in pve/pvp gear. in fact some alliance dudes were doin it in pure pve gear and have some scary ratings... damn, now only if i could be that crazy |
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Krisnatharok
0311 Scout
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join:2009-02-11
Sterling, VA
| reply to Alexoi
I'm actually debating blood specs. In one (54 Blood for full rune tap), I dump the remaining points into Frost to get Icy Talons, and in the other, I go 17 into Unholy for the standard strength, Necrosis, and Bloodcaked-Blade talents.
Any comments on which is better? I can't decide.
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smoky_129
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join:2002-09-04
Arab, AL
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im using 12/0/59 atm and i do decent in pvp im still in quest blue's and greens atm just hit 80 like 3 days ago but i have played with other builds and prefer this one as it seems to fit my play style the best deathknightbuild.com seem to have qute a few builds on there also if you want to check it out |
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pwrtoppl
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join:2008-11-21
Broomfield, CO
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1 edit | reply to Krisnatharok
said by Krisnatharok :Hmmmm.... now I'm torn. Frost for the l33tness of the CC/interrupts, Unholy for the permapet, or Blood for uber self-healing. BTW what do you think of dualwield in pvp? im doing frost deep enough to get chillabins and hungering cold and the rest into unholy to bone shield, but the trick is to be in blood presence for extra damage and life gain
as for dual wields...im not 100% sure on that...if you want to try that route, go unholy pres for extra speed...but then again, i havent dual wielded since 3.0.3 so i wouldnt know much there |
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Krisnatharok
0311 Scout
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join:2009-02-11
Sterling, VA | reply to pwrtoppl
Hmmmm.... now I'm torn. Frost for the l33tness of the CC/interrupts, Unholy for the permapet, or Blood for uber self-healing.
BTW what do you think of dualwield in pvp? |
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pwrtoppl
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Broomfield, CO
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1 edit | reply to Krisnatharok
said by Krisnatharok :Also try unholy presence. I picked imp. unholy presence because I always pvp in unholy--nothing beats spamming out a full rotation, popping empower rune weapon, and then spamming 3x scourge strikes. Anything not dead will be finished off by your ghoul.  And it happens so fast that one silence on a healer is enough to prevent them from saving their buddy. true, unholy presence with points dumped into it are great...but how can you beat 15% more damage and health back per swing if youre going into death strike as a finale?
with that glyph adding per runic power, you start looking at a nice base swing in blood presence gaining life back and doing 15% more
unholys great, that i agree with, doing a full rotation in seconds is awesome...watching your runes come off cooldown when you could be doing a silence over that last swing in a blood pres rotation is better suited for those who like to do less damage but run like crazy around people
ghouls are cool, i like em, they got leaps, stuns and funny sounds when they attack and die, but they dont really need to be micro managed in arena, sick em on a healer, activate frenzy, pop hungering cold on dps, nuke the healer, and kite the lone warrior as a joke until he gives up and dies
edit: ss is great by all means...but if it takes you three swings in a second line rotation to kill someone, try doing a slower rotation and a different base hit and see where it lands you...ive seen other dks run when they get low cause they have no life gain or stick it out til their untimely death...i choose the other route and lay waste into my attacker with life gain all the way, making surviveability that much more
i still die sure, and outside swings i too lack self heals |
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